Pioneer Blu-ray players 2011 - BDP-140/BDP-440/BDP-LX55/BDP-53FD - Page 37

There´s even the LX-55´s remote on the BDP-440´s picture at Pio EU website
Pioneer should definitely do something about the bugs instead of mismatching the products and accessories on their website...
it´s been more than a month since the bugs were described, no response from Pio whatsoever...disgusting...

I'm worried about the fact that Chris Walker didn't appears here since the LX55 came out ...


I heard that some people from Pioneer were watching this thread to be aware of the bugs, ameliorations, etc for the player, but since it came out, the thread took only a few pages ...
While on the french one, it took more than 100 ...
They should watch the french one instead :/

As a non-French speaker, can you emphasize for me some new info/bugs on the players which took place in French thread?
I just sent a mail to Pio EU about the situation...
Thx

the "HCFR" french forum it's 276 pages
some french posters emailed pioneer to visit pioneer threads and to be aware of all the bugs... we're waiting

review of the 52FD by hometheater.com http://www.hometheater.com/content/p...-ray-3d-player

Damn poor remote sensor!

"Responsiveness is somewhat sluggish, and I had to point the remote directly at the unit for the commands to be received. "

"If you're one of the millions of iCapable consumers, Pioneer's free iControlAV2 app (available for the iPhone, iPod touch, and iPad) lets you use your iDevice to control the BDP-52FD. It's a huge upgrade over the less-than-stellar remote."

Unfortunately icontrolav can't completely replace the remote

With all due respect, there 100 pages on the French forum before the thing was released and there are fewer posts per page

And while there are some quality posts and the thread creator is very active (realzven) a lot of the posts are just conversation

I think the rumor about pioneer reading this forum started from this, who knows if it is true


However, given that windows home server was already mentioned by a poster earlier and that pio support had not heard about this would seem to indicate they don't

The home theater review seems pretty bad - all kinds of bugs requiring the player to be unplugged and not a very good price

And no firmware in sight to fix issues

No word from Chris Walker in quite some time

The original rumor that these players are 'true' pioneers is false, unless you count contracting out to TCL for the design and firmware

Count me as a hugely disappointed pioneer fan that will not buy any of the new pioneer bd players

i would like to get this LX-55 to replace my PS3 but if there isn't any firmware coming i definitely keep my PS3

Walker usually vanishes after a product is released. He is here to garner hype for future products.

exactly what i was thinking

pretty sad, though...

I´ll wait for Pio EU response, if it won´t come pretty soon the only solution for me is Oppo BDP-93...so it´s time to start saving some cash
I´m waiting for the VSX-2021 to be delivered next week, it´s just a great shame that Pioneer throws their valued customers away in such miserable way...

I took into consideration the Oppo BDP-93, but I really don't need its analogue out since I would use an Anthem A/V receiver which works best via hdmi... I'm quite pissed...

Have you noticed lately that the only reason I even post on a Pioneer thread anymore is to remonis about Pioneer and their KURO glory days? My advice to Pioneer is that it's OK to rely on the OEM method. Just pick a better OEM, such as the ones who build players for Cambridge, Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Oppo, and Yamaha!

Ummm, the OEM suit that makes Yamaha and Onkyo is the same company that manufactures for Pioneer.

Reply from Pio EU today:

We appreciate your concern and we are aware of all issues that you've
mentioned and we all reported them a while ago to the Japanese engineers
with the message that this needs to improve. But at the moment we really
can't do much more than wait for them to improve the firmware and give them
a push once in a while to ask where they're standing

there are many phases in making something

design
manufacture of parts
assembly
software
qualifications
distribution
sales
support

it would appear that Pioner contracted with TCL to do the first five items for Pioneer on the blu-ray players

are you saying TCL also does this for Yamaha and Onkyo blu ray players?

i was assuming that it was the pioneer receivers that shared a lineage with onkyo and yamaha receivers

that must be frustrating for Pio EU

to me it is not even clear if Pioneer Japan employees even maintain the software for these players

I do not believe so.

Pioneer/Toshiba - TCL
Onkyo - Funai
Yamaha/Denon/Marantz - Inkel

All 2011 models. TCL and Inkel models(plus Oppo and Cambridge) do have similar Mediatek boards though.

I would suspect some oems use drives from a panasonic subsidiary using their own modified firmware, can't remember the name of the Co though they are pretty well a oem firmware region lock within the pc industry especially in laptops from acer/toshiba and a few others...

not many Co's actually build their own dvd/bd drives they use on their players. so it is lucky to see multiregion dvd/bd player..

before looking at other components 1st look at the optical drive they use, the other co's might build the circuit boards that go into the dvd/bd chassis though take note of the optical drive they all use..

I wonder if pioneer even uses their own drives?

Not anymore from what I was told.

The new models use Toshiba drives.

I know for a fact toshiba do outsource their optical drives from a subsidiary of panasonic..


as for pioneer I haven't hat the honor of owning pioneer gear within home audio or pc realms..

hello,
I bought a few days the pioneer lx55 ..
I noticed this little problem, when I insert a DVD and I do leave, the player does not start it right away, but I lose the signal as HDMI for a while and then starts the film.
If, for example, launch a disk with 5 divx file short, between the end of one and the start of the next is always short loss of signal. Why does this happen?
Is there some setting that is incorrect?
Hello and thank you!

skip it if possible..

could be a bugin firmware you may want to update the firmware.

but there is already a firmware update for the pioneer lx55?
also your player has this small loss of signal?
I would not have some setting wrong, for example when I set the resolution in the car, this loss of signal occurred for 2 consecutive times before leaving the movies.

if you got signal oss then I'd be looking at the cable you're using is cactus time to replace it

have you tried the cable in another hdmi port, there be a chance that the hdmi port either on the player or the hdmi board is starting to fail..


not sure this is the case with pioneer bd player or not, if the player has done an firmware update via the net, it is possible within reset process it may set back to composite and anolog as default the hdmi not working the correctly and you will likely need reconfig hdmi as default for audio and video and setup 5,1 through 7.1...

you could also try and toggle the mute button aswell

I do not understand, some people tell me that it is normal for the black screen appears and that there is this very brief loss of signal ..
I was told that this is because the player must set the resolutions for the file being played.

Just recieved the 53fd this morning...
replacing the 23fd
and taking a quick look at the manual..
pg.20
to achieve higher quality video and sound
I should connect the BD using 2 separate
HDMI cables one to the TV and another to the AVR.
Connecting to Elite SC-57 AV.
i don't really want to buy another cable...