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post #301 of 1810
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

why do you want source direct when the internal upscaler is already the most amazing upscaler on the market?

Wondering the same thing
post #302 of 1810
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

why do you want source direct when the internal upscaler is already the most amazing upscaler on the market?

It's not better than the upscaler I have in my AVR. I only use the 23FD for DVDs, which is not even every month. I expect it to last forever.
post #303 of 1810
just curious, which AVR you're currently using? Regardless, you are correct, if you want to use an outboard scaler, this is not the BD player for you.
post #304 of 1810
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

why do you want source direct when the internal upscaler is already the most amazing upscaler on the market?

Because I already have the most amazing internal upscaler in my vsx-52. Now if I want the best upscaler I have to spend the extra $100 and get the 53fd. Am I the only person who doesn't understand all of this duplication when it comes to our equipment. All it translates into is more money that we have to spend to get the same results. A Marvell to Marvell to Marvell connection equals..........................................A Marvell
post #305 of 1810
Because Pioneer does NOT make the BDP-53FD only for current Pioneer receiver users but also for previous Pioneer receiver users and other brand of receiver users.

Getting rid of the Marvel Qdeo is not going to make the BD player any cheaper than about $5 at the manufacturing level.
post #306 of 1810
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

why do you want source direct when the internal upscaler is already the most amazing upscaler on the market?

My vizio tv refuses to sync at 24p unless I force it with source direct. If I use 1080p or auto I get 60p.
post #307 of 1810
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Originally Posted by HTMan34 View Post

Thanks Chris as usual for the information. Nice to have you back as a regular on the Pioneer Blu-ray threads on AVS Forum. BTW, the 53FD looks like one helluva of a BD player! I can't wait till December now!

You still rockin that HD1?
post #308 of 1810
Even I am still rockin' the HD1
post #309 of 1810
Is there also coming a replacement for the BDP-LX-91 or the BDP-LX71 ?
This because I have placed a order to buy the Pioneer SC-LX85(european version of the SC-57) but I would like to have a matching Blu-Ray player, and the BDP-LX55 is more matching the Pioneer VSX-LX55 than the SC-LX75/SC-LX85.
post #310 of 1810
As much as I want it, I don't think it'll ever come out. Pioneer historically only manufacture one 9-series per format

Laserdisc: LD-S9
HD MUSE Laserdisc: HLD-X9
DVD: DV-09
BD: BDP-09
post #311 of 1810
I believe that the BDP-440/52FD will allow you to change the output resolution. So when playing SD DVDs through your VSX-52, set the BDP-440/52FD to 480i. If its HDMI output only goes down to 480p, then connect the BDP-440/52FD to your VSX-52 via Composite video input and then you should be able to use the Marvell in your VSX-52.
post #312 of 1810
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

As much as I want it, I don't think it'll ever come out. Pioneer historically only manufacture one 9-series per format

Laserdisc: LD-S9
HD MUSE Laserdisc: HLD-X9
DVD: DV-09
BD: BDP-09

Mmm that's a pity then.
Well then the BDP-LX55 it is I think I am hoping that the the CD and SACD and DVD-Audio capabilities are good and that the internal DAC's of it are good too so I can connect it also analogue to my old Vintage receiver ánd of course to my SC-LX85 when it arrives.
post #313 of 1810
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

I believe that the BDP-440/52FD will allow you to change the output resolution. So when playing SD DVDs through your VSX-52, set the BDP-440/52FD to 480i. If its HDMI output only goes down to 480p, then connect the BDP-440/52FD to your VSX-52 via Composite video input and then you should be able to use the Marvell in your VSX-52.

Big C, might want to keep your advice to audio my man. you do NOT want to rely on composite.
post #314 of 1810
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Originally Posted by srx View Post

While i was googling for n-50 network player, i came across a website and saw a photo of n-50 network player.

Under the n-50 were two pioneer units which looked like a stereo amplifier and a cd player and they cosmetically matched the n-50.

Does anybody know about new pioneer stereo components? or did anyone who have been at IFA ever seen these components?

Mmmm interesting !
I am quite interested in what these are and interested in any more information about these components.
post #315 of 1810
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Originally Posted by David Susilo View Post

why do you want source direct when the internal upscaler is already the most amazing upscaler on the market?

This (most amazing upscaler on the market) is true only for 1 of the 3 new models.
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post

I believe that the BDP-440/52FD will allow you to change the output resolution. So when playing SD DVDs through your VSX-52, set the BDP-440/52FD to 480i...

This is not very feasible, as long as I have DVD and BD mixed.
post #316 of 1810
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Originally Posted by madkaw View Post

You still rockin that HD1?

Oh yeah! Still going strong. I am though thinking about the new 53FD, looks pretty impressive. I am looking to move the HD1 into my family room and put the 53FD in my theater. We will see when this thing comes out if it is worth it.
post #317 of 1810
Okay I'm still wonky on digital music...I have an external usb drive with 1.5 TB of wav files...I was looking at getting a logitech squeezebox touch to connect via my SC-07...but I like the looks of the new N50...I am assuming my SC-07 will be doing all the work anyway though, so does it matter? I was having directory issues with the SC-07 directly by the way, which is why I was looking in the first place. Any help would be appreciated...and to be on topic I will be upgrading my 05fd finally. The 53 looks nice, and I have plenty of sacd and dvd audio begging to be played again.
post #318 of 1810
I don't see any video output resolution indicator any more on the front panel in the 52FD and 53FD's product sheets: I hope at least the latter retains 50i support (the manuals aren't up yet). If not it will definitely be a deal breaker.

Also in the past MSRP USD500 means CAD600: I hope it's not the case now.

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Originally Posted by iontyre View Post

My vizio tv refuses to sync at 24p unless I force it with source direct. If I use 1080p or auto I get 60p.

It's the same with the Kuro plasma.

On a general note, this thread already caters for 3 US and 3 Euro BDPs and there is a strong case for putting the 2 network players on a new thread to avoid clutter.
post #319 of 1810
I realize most people only need hdmi these days but the 53s back panel seems weird looking with so few connections compared to the 23 and before. Glad to see that the 53 doesn't have a c7 power connector. Can't wait to see what the 53s overall performance is like.
post #320 of 1810
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Originally Posted by HTMan34 View Post


Oh yeah! Still going strong. I am though thinking about the new 53FD, looks pretty impressive. I am looking to move the HD1 into my family room and put the 53FD in my theater. We will see when this thing comes out if it is worth it.

You gotta love how tough that HD-1 was built. Very tight build quality, so much so that even newer Elite BDPs feel flimsy by comparison.
post #321 of 1810
Well, if the BDP-140/52FD/53FD cannot output 480i via HDMI, I'll just have to make an optical audio connection. I know that the BDP-430/41FD/43FD will only go down to 480p. I'm hoping that the new players will go down all the way to 480i. I'd rather stay HDMI all the way! Although if I get the BDP-53FD, I'll just keep it at 1080p because there is a chance that being that it came out later than the VSX-32, it might have an updated version of the Marvell circuitry.
post #322 of 1810
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Originally Posted by SSaull View Post

Chris, I have an SC-35, and would like to know if PQLS will be applied to SACD and DVD-Audio with my receiver and the BDP-53FD

I know you asked Chris Walker, but I can tell you that PQLS will work with SACD and DVD-AUDIO with your model. The only thing is that in order to achieve PQLS with a 2010 receiver, you will have to have the player perform a DSD-to-PCM conversion because the 2010 receivers will not do PQLS bitstream. Please either confirm or correct this statement depending on whether it is right or wrong. Although if your receiver is converting DSD-to-PCM, the Pioneer receivers only convert it to 88.2 KHz PCM. The new players will convert DSD to 176.4 KHz, 24-bit PCM. So I would recommend that you let the player decode everything and set the output to multi-channel PCM for the best results. Frankly, I'm so looking forward to the day I get my new toy!
post #323 of 1810
Thank you, Big C! I will surely buy the 53 as soon as it is available.
post #324 of 1810
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Originally Posted by Big C View Post
Well, if the BDP-140/52FD/53FD cannot output 480i via HDMI, I'll just have to make an optical audio connection. I know that the BDP-430/41FD/43FD will only go down to 480p
Big C ;what winston was getting at [excluding the analog sunset for these purposes] was a component connection Optical audio spdif is off the mark .Component will send 480i/576i no worries
What Chris said about source direct in relation to the 140 at least sounded conclusive unfortunately

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post20935172
post #325 of 1810
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Originally Posted by cwt View Post

Big C ;what winston was getting at [excluding the analog sunset for these purposes] was a component connection Optical audio spdif is off the mark .Component will send 480i/576i no worries
What Chris said about source direct in relation to the 140 at least sounded conclusive unfortunately

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...2#post20935172

The 52 and 53 do not have component video jacks
post #326 of 1810
post #327 of 1810
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Originally Posted by 67 - 427 View Post

52 spec sheet
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ep...le%20Sheet.pdf ...

In the specs it says:
TERMINALS
...
Component Video Output
Composite Video Output
...
but the picture shows only Composite Video Output.

I am confused.
post #328 of 1810
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Originally Posted by drSeehas View Post

In the specs it says:
TERMINALS
...
Component Video Output
Composite Video Output
...
but the picture shows only Composite Video Output.

I am confused.

I saw that too, but i doubt the spec sheet pics are wrong for all 3 new players
post #329 of 1810
I'd say these players don't have Component. I'd depend on the picturse, since they are the actual players. So if it will output 480i via HDMI, then I'll be happy. If not, then I'll just have to connect via Composite.
post #330 of 1810
Looking forward to seeing how the 52 and 53 perform. I have been considering getting the Oppo BDP-93 to eventually replace my Oppo BDP-83 which has worked flawlessy for over 2 years. I recently acquired a Pioneer SC-37 receiver, so I would love to add a Pioneer 52 or 53 if they compare favorably to the Oppos!
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