Originally Posted by Kilian.ca
The screenshot shows DSD>PCM under input, which I understand only tells us about the AVR, not the player, and can only mean the AVR is receiving DSD, not PCM. If an AVR receives PCM, there is no way for the AVR to 'know' where it comes from, or what the player does..
i think you are probably right, however, there are provisions to exchange data within HDMI, like PQLS that are proprietary so it is possible
I think can be set by Pioneer with software (firmware). As the Yamaha uses a lower number (older) chip (MT8530) which can do 176.4 kHz one naturally assumes the newer one can also.
i think it is fair to assume that the chip that mediatek is saying is their latest and greatest can output 176.4 KHz
unfortunately, there are no publicly accessible data sheets which means you would have to contact mediatek to get it
There is no uniform agreement on this personal preference. Decimation to PCM before DAC is needed if you 'want' to use any processing (bass management, speaker distance, room correction).
yes the fancy room correction stuff would be done on the PCM signal
Big C was talking about the FS value which I commented on yesterday
fs should be 44.1 as i read the spec so it is not clear what the number on the panel means
there are two issues here
1) do any of the new players output 176.4 KHz as either 2ch or mch? we seem to know the answer to mch and frankly i would say Pioneer needs to do something about that - it is quite clear even in the October press releases from Singapore and Japan that it supports 176.4 KHz PCM SACD
2) can big C get his 176.4 KHz PCM signal with pqls
given that he has a pioneer VSX-32 which can take DSD and will also support the icontrolAV app
it would seem that sending the SACD as DSD might be a viable option
that would presume that the DSD was converted to 176.4 (vice 88.2) by the receiver
i think when Chris Walker said,
I read some of the comments regarding SACD output from the BDP player to a receiver and what frequency output. There is not a simple way to check this, however if you have a Pioneer receiver that supports our iControlAV2 Android/Apple application you go to the info screen and you can see that the DSD information is sent as 176.4kHz....
i think he might have meant it is hard to tell what the DSD information is converted to in the receiver
conceivably icontrolav would tell you the same thing
then there is pqls which i didn't know has different flavors
i see the VSX-32 having PQLS multichannel and see PQLS bitstream in players so not sure DSD PQLS works on the VSX-32, of course the simple thing would have been to look at the display and see if it was on while streaming DSD
i think we all agree that Pioneer should step up and clarify details on these players
if it is a bug in the firmware it should be noted and they need to tell us when it will get fixed (FLAC file extension, chapter numbers, 176 KHZ PCM SACD, SACD mode selection?)
if it was a mistake in the press release or information at a tradeshow, it should be corrected (FLAC, ISO, 176.4 KHz PCM SACD)
if there is a feature that is in the player and operational, it should be documented in the manual (i.e. NTFS, external hard disk)