Ripping Blu-Rays II - Page 59

Slysoft has a post in their forum that discusses the problems with defeating Cinavia, which is pretty funny because it is as you say: they don't have a clue how to detect it much less defeat it. But I think part of the problem is the lack of Cinavia supported players available from which they can reverse engineer. I did find a recent a recent release by a company that claims a "future proof" solution to Cinavia. BTW, I think DVDFab had a Cinavia module (may still) but my understanding is that the maker of Cinavia made an upgrade that made the module useless. I believe the problem, as I understand it, is detection of the audio watermark and then the problem with the watermark itself.


Ok, that was a big of an exxageration. The point is merely that if most BDs have Cinavia and most players support Cinavia, then ripping with AnyDVD HD wont accomplish much.


Not yet, but your statement goes against the expectation of many others. It certainly would preclude any combo units (media/BD ROM) says Damien who wrote this in his article on Cinavia:



And he is not alone. AnandTech also wrote an article, Cinavia DRM: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Blu-ray’s Self-Destruction:



I'm inclined to agree with Damien in the sense that Dune will cease to exist if it has to have Cinavia support. If you can't play media files, what's the point? And just in case you didn't know, the MPAA and similar associations don't like these media players at all, as is evidenced by the problems that Kaleidescape has undergone.



It will certainly thwart a few pirates. I'd be thrilled if it stopped my pet peeve, which is people who pay $1.50 at Redbox then rip the movie to their hard-drive. But as is typically the case, the pirates don't skip a beat and those of us who obey the law more closely (excepting the process of defeating the DRM, of course) will be forced to make tough choices. Stop buying or resort to piracy. This was the case with music for a while. I know...I stopped buying. I refuse to steal so I just did without. I still find myself irritated that virtually everyone of my friends simply downloads the music from YouTube for free. And these are people who don't know anything about computers and certainly wouldn't have used P2P. Good thing RIAA shutdown Napster to keep people from having thousands of illegally obtained music files, eh?



Maybe. I think it pushes just more people to stolen goods and to streaming services. BTW, I think the latter is inevitable anyways.




It is my impression that DVDfab has had a difficult time with Cinavia. They introduced a module to DVDFAB that was supposed to defeat Cinavia only to have the Cinavia company update the code to make the module useless.

I'm curious to see if the AACS moves against DVDFAB like they have with Slysoft. Of course, things have a tendency to get lost in small countries. But being in China makes such charges more difficult, although the U.S. can still implement financial restrictions making the purchase of DVDFAB more difficult.

Anyways, the next couple years will be interesting. I'm not the only one who things the studios are shooting themselves in the foot.
Edited by agogley - 10/27/12 at 10:12pm

Kelson, I hope you are right. I really do. I'm a bit annoyed with the studios and their interpretation of copyrights and property rights. Actually, I find myself annoyed with photographers who think they own a photo of my kids in perpetuity so that I may not scan a photo I buy.

I'm a bit more pessimistic than you, however. The studios are very aggressive in forcing these things on everybody.....although..... I do agree with Anandtech that if Cinavia is everything the studios hope, it will just quicken their self destruction.