At least they are being honest. DVD Fab has been silent on their efforts, if any, for 2 yr and has tried to sweep it under the rug. I don't think they have any more of a clue how to remove Cinavia than Slysoft has
Slysoft has a post in their forum that discusses the problems with defeating Cinavia, which is pretty funny because it is as you say: they don't have a clue how to detect it much less defeat it. But I think part of the problem is the lack of Cinavia supported players available from which they can reverse engineer. I did find a recent a recent release
by a company that claims a "future proof" solution to Cinavia. BTW, I think DVDFab had a Cinavia module (may still) but my understanding is that the maker of Cinavia made an upgrade that made the module useless. I believe the problem, as I understand it, is detection of the audio watermark and then the problem with the watermark itself.
But just because it can't defeat Cinavia doesn't mean it is useless.
Ok, that was a big of an exxageration. The point is merely that if most BDs have Cinavia and most players support Cinavia, then ripping with AnyDVD HD wont accomplish much.
I don't know of any media players that have Cinavia and unless the player seeks a BDA license, there is no reason to expect that they would implement it.
Not yet, but your statement goes against the expectation of many others. It certainly would preclude any combo units (media/BD ROM) says Damien who wrote this in his article on Cinavia
"My guess this is the last you will see of these hybrid players and the only type of player that will allow you to play back your unprotected content and still have access to a Blu-ray ROM drive will be an HTPC."
And he is not alone. AnandTech also wrote an article, Cinavia DRM: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Blu-ray’s Self-Destruction
"The next generation version of these players may be forced to implement Cinavia support. Users with legitimate backups wanting the full Blu-ray experience and using such players will end up being affected."
I'm inclined to agree with Damien in the sense that Dune will cease to exist if it has to have Cinavia support. If you can't play media files, what's the point? And just in case you didn't know, the MPAA and similar associations don't like these media players at all, as is evidenced by the problems that Kaleidescape has undergone
Cinavia will hurt the DVD Fab disk pirates who want to burn "backups' of BD's because all the players will have it. It will also hurt all the people who buy a BD player and want to use it as an all-in-one media streamer.
It will certainly thwart a few pirates. I'd be thrilled if it stopped my pet peeve, which is people who pay $1.50 at Redbox then rip the movie to their hard-drive. But as is typically the case, the pirates don't skip a beat and those of us who obey the law more closely (excepting the process of defeating the DRM, of course) will be forced to make tough choices. Stop buying or resort to piracy. This was the case with music for a while. I know...I stopped buying. I refuse to steal so I just did without. I still find myself irritated that virtually everyone of my friends simply downloads the music from YouTube for free. And these are people who don't know anything about computers and certainly wouldn't have used P2P. Good thing RIAA shutdown Napster to keep people from having thousands of illegally obtained music files, eh?
This could have an interesting side-effect of increasing sales of traditional media players that will play anything.
Maybe. I think it pushes just more people to stolen goods and to streaming services. BTW, I think the latter is inevitable anyways.
Originally Posted by Kelson
Just did. This is a very interesting read -- DVD Fab Media player
. I encourage people to give it a look.
This will play BluRay/DVD disks, .iso files and folder structures with full menu support. To play commercial disks you would at first think they would need a BDA license for the encryption codes -- but no -- they just include their DVD Fab decryption modules in the player and crack the disk to play it. This will be a Cinavia-free PC player forever.
The price is steep. They want $50 for the first year and a yearly $10 license fee. But that is only if you want to play commercial disks. If you don't pay, it reverts to the "free" version which will play BD.iso and DVD.iso. That's fine with me.
At the bottom of the page is this interesting note:
The interface really looks pretty. I think I may give this a try, just because.
It is my impression that DVDfab has had a difficult time with Cinavia. They introduced a module to DVDFAB that was supposed to defeat Cinavia only to have the Cinavia company update the code to make the module useless.
I'm curious to see if the AACS moves against DVDFAB like they have with Slysoft
. Of course, things have a tendency to get lost
in small countries. But being in China makes such charges more difficult, although the U.S. can still implement financial restrictions making the purchase of DVDFAB more difficult.
Anyways, the next couple years will be interesting. I'm not the only one who things the studios are shooting themselves in the foot
.Edited by agogley - 10/27/12 at 10:12pm