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Originally Posted by djc11369 View Post

I just ripped it via DVDFab fine but it's left in the seamless branch state. I tried ClownBD to "stitch" it together and got the same error. Just checked out the eac3to forum and it's apparently an issue with Brave and Nemo so Maybe there will be a fix in a while if it's not a disc issue. It's more likely something new with TrueHD since it's affecting two different movies. Curious to know though if anyone else has experienced the drop(s) directly from disc.
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=536ebe0768f9d5b7cc5c3aa047cca4bc&t=125966&page=596

Couldnt remember but I guess that is the reason why I threw brave into an mkv lol
post #1832 of 5693
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Couldnt remember but I guess that is the reason why I threw brave into an mkv lol

I've ripped Brave in to a MKV file, but like I've said before there are two sections where the audio gets dropped.
post #1833 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I've ripped Brave in to a MKV file, but like I've said before there are two sections where the audio gets dropped.

Yeah, i havent actually watched yet, just ripped so far.
post #1834 of 5693
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Yeah, i havent actually watched yet, just ripped so far.

Yeah, I watched it 4 times yesterday due to my kids lol. The sound drops were in the same spot every time. We watched it again today via BD disk, and no sound drops at all. I've done an ISO with AnyDVD HD, it's like 42 GB, compared to the MKV 20 GB file. I was wondering if there is anything I can use to make the ISO smaller.
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Yeah, I watched it 4 times yesterday due to my kids lol. The sound drops were in the same spot every time. We watched it again today via BD disk, and no sound drops at all. I've done an ISO with AnyDVD HD, it's like 42 GB, compared to the MKV 20 GB file. I was wondering if there is anything I can use to make the ISO smaller.

My movie only M2TS is ~ 24GB, it has the video and both the TrueHd + DD track.

Bill
post #1836 of 5693
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

My movie only M2TS is ~ 24GB, it has the video and both the TrueHd + DD track.
Bill

I always use ClownBD to make a folder structure rip, but ea3cto can't rip Brave due to error. I don't have anything else to make a m2ts file.
post #1837 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I always use ClownBD to make a folder structure rip, but ea3cto can't rip Brave due to error. I don't have anything else to make a m2ts file.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR

ClownBD uses it in CLI form, the exe is in its directory. You need the GUI version from videohelp, just unzip it into a folder and you will be good to go. Its pretty self explanatory but if you have questions feel free to ask smile.gif

Bill
post #1838 of 5693
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR
ClownBD uses it in CLI form, the exe is in its directory. You need the GUI version from videohelp, just unzip it into a folder and you will be good to go. Its pretty self explanatory but if you have questions feel free to ask smile.gif
Bill

Thank you I will give it a try.
post #1839 of 5693
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR
ClownBD uses it in CLI form, the exe is in its directory. You need the GUI version from videohelp, just unzip it into a folder and you will be good to go. Its pretty self explanatory but if you have questions feel free to ask smile.gif
Bill

GUI.exe file cannot be use with ClownBD. I had to use the non GUI to be use with ClownBD, which I still get the same error.

LMAO. Never mind you meant only using tsMuxer, which I am using now. Thanks again.
Edited by GusGus748s - 11/18/12 at 12:51pm
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My apologies up front. Not sure if this is the right thread to ask this question.

I am looking for an external blu ray writer to rip blu ray dvds.

Per Amazon, the best one (most stars) is DIGISTOR External Bu-ray Burner USB 2.0 with Multimedia & Archive Suites (Tray Load)

Is this a good external blu ray writer?

If not, any recommendations?
post #1841 of 5693
You can probably get a bare BD writer and put it in your own case for less.
post #1842 of 5693
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR
ClownBD uses it in CLI form, the exe is in its directory. You need the GUI version from videohelp, just unzip it into a folder and you will be good to go. Its pretty self explanatory but if you have questions feel free to ask smile.gif
Bill

This worked for me, thanks for the tip. No audio drops either which now makes me suspect the BD player. It's only a couple months old but I think this is the first movie with TrueHD I've played in it. If that's the case I'll need to cross Sony off the list as my last one didn't last long before it developed issues, the Samsung before that was a nightmare.
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Originally Posted by djc11369 View Post

This worked for me, thanks for the tip. No audio drops either which now makes me suspect the BD player. It's only a couple months old but I think this is the first movie with TrueHD I've played in it. If that's the case I'll need to cross Sony off the list as my last one didn't last long before it developed issues, the Samsung before that was a nightmare.

Yeap, I made my MKV file into a M2TS file now. I haven't played it yet, but I am hoping it is fixed.
post #1844 of 5693
I have now warched Brave 6 times with no issues, lol.

Bill
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

I have now warched Brave 6 times with no issues, lol.
Bill

Just because of the kids right? biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by djc11369 View Post

Just because of the kids right? biggrin.gif

Yup, currently the time is split between "Afro Circus" (Madagascar 3) and "That one with the bear" (Brave) smile.gif

Bill
post #1847 of 5693
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/tsMuxeR
ClownBD uses it in CLI form, the exe is in its directory. You need the GUI version from videohelp, just unzip it into a folder and you will be good to go. Its pretty self explanatory but if you have questions feel free to ask smile.gif
Bill

What circumstances would require using the GUI version instead of Clown using the command line interface?

Anyone?
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

What circumstances would require using the GUI version instead of Clown using the command line interface?
Anyone?

Sorry, you asked that yesterday too smile.gif I have always used the GUI version since I began ripping my movies a few years ago, just my workflow now. The command line version is just designed to work with in other packages of software such as ClownBD, which is nothing more than a GUI to streamline the process of multiple standalone programs (TsMuxer, BDSup2Sub, Mencoder, eac3to) I just choose to use the stand alone programs on their own as needed because most of the time the only one I even use is TsMuxer.

I believe GusGus748's issue was actually with eac3to but I don't believe there is a way to bypass it with ClownBD so that was the reason I suggested just using the GUI version of TsMuxer. biggrin.gif

Bill
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Thanks, Bill. My TsMuxer usage has been only with Clown BD. I am a BD Ripper 101 kind of guy. smile.gif
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Thanks, Bill. My TsMuxer usage has been only with Clown BD. I am a BD Ripper 101 kind of guy. smile.gif

I can understand that, lol. When I find something that works it takes a LOT to get me to change which is why I still do things the way I do.

Bill
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

Sorry, you asked that yesterday too smile.gif I have always used the GUI version since I began ripping my movies a few years ago, just my workflow now. The command line version is just designed to work with in other packages of software such as ClownBD, which is nothing more than a GUI to streamline the process of multiple standalone programs (TsMuxer, BDSup2Sub, Mencoder, eac3to) I just choose to use the stand alone programs on their own as needed because most of the time the only one I even use is TsMuxer.
I believe GusGus748's issue was actually with eac3to but I don't believe there is a way to bypass it with ClownBD so that was the reason I suggested just using the GUI version of TsMuxer. biggrin.gif
Bill

How do you include the HD sound track? I use Tsmuxer to make my mkv in to a m2ts file, but if doesn't include th HD sound track or subs?
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

How do you include the HD sound track? I use Tsmuxer to make my mkv in to a m2ts file, but if doesn't include th HD sound track or subs?

I have never started with an MKV, but if the HD track is in there I don't see why you cant select it. Give me a minute and I will turn one into an MKV and see what happens. Are you still dealing with the Brave MKV you made?

EDIT: I just tried MakeMKV and by default it doesn't KEEP the HD audio track, it "cores" it down to DD5.1 rolleyes.gif........my file for brave ended up being ~17GB. I am trying it again this time with the TrueHD track selected.

Bill
Edited by mrfattbill - 11/19/12 at 12:18pm
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Thread Starter 
What playlist are you ripping for Brave? .00800? I'm ripping it now. I usually watch in on Blu-Ray the first time so that if there are any problems with the rip, I will notice them (have learned the hard way with forced subs, etc.).

Edit: Nevermind, I saw a post on page 61, LOL. But trying to decide how to handle EAC problem. I guess I could just go the easy way with AnyDVD.

Edit#2: I'm trying to get more information on Brave. Doom9 forum has a couple workarounds although only one person says he has had success. I've also PMed Damien and Mr.fatbill above to see what workarounds they've tried and what success they have. In the meantime, if you are using a workaround please post. I'll post my findings when I can. Also, please advise where in the movie you get the audio drops so I can compare.

Does anybody recall if Brave has any subs I need to worry about? I only saw the movie once (yesterday) and don't recall any subs.
Edited by agogley - 11/20/12 at 10:21pm
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Yeah, I watched it 4 times yesterday due to my kids lol. The sound drops were in the same spot every time. We watched it again today via BD disk, and no sound drops at all. I've done an ISO with AnyDVD HD, it's like 42 GB, compared to the MKV 20 GB file. I was wondering if there is anything I can use to make the ISO smaller.

Does your ISO from AnyDVD have audio drops? If so, where do you notice them? The Doom9 forum potential fixes look like a lot of work with contradictory reports of success/failure.
post #1855 of 5693
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post

^Thanks, I just ran into that issue last night and was wondering the same thing.
I also had a couple other questions I was hoping I could get help with. I've been ripping my library to .iso files for the past two weeks and was wondering what the recommended method was for movies with forced subtitles. I really want to make sure I'm doing this correctly, because I don't have time to watch every movie as it is ripped, and would hate to leave out some vital information when I go to watch it months/years later. I looked in the thread here and it looks like the google spreadsheet has barely been updated recently.
Here's my current method; I've been using clown_bd to rip the movie only to an .iso file. For the basic settings, I have the "forced subtitles" box greyed in, which to my understanding, would automatically include forced subtitle tracks which are flagged that way. The problem would be the forced subtitle tracks which are not flagged. To try to find those, when prompted, I select to include all english subtitles, and after burning is complete, I go to the temp folder to look at the file size. The forced subtitle tracks are noticeably smaller, and I pull them up in subtitle editing software to verify they are forced subs which should have been included. After this, I reburn the .iso using clown_bd, but this time check the forced subtitles box instead of leaving it greyed in. I tested this with Ronin and it worked perfectly. Can anyone give some feedback on this method to make sure I'm not missing anything? Are there any titles in particular that I need to be aware of? I've read that Avatar and Star Wars seem to give a lot of problems, but I haven't tested either of these yet. Is there anything special with those?
Also, is clown_bd the best software for ripping the movie only to .iso, or is there something else I should look into? I noticed dvdfab and anydvd both have .iso options as well. Is any one better than the others?

PLAYLISTs

Disney movies are notorious for having all kinds of playlists. With them, I find that the correct playlist is usually the even number like .800 or .500. Other movies can be harder to decipher. If there are time difference of even a second, I usually play the movie in TMT5 to see what the time is on that. Other times I run a search on AVS or slysoft to see if anyone else picked up the correct playlist. Lastly, I just rip a playlist until I find the right one. Another technique I use is to manually watch the different M2ts files where they differ from one another. Usually I can figure it out after a just a couple clips. For example, with Disney movies the audio will be in English but the text on screen will be in another language (like the movie title). Pretty easy to pick out most times.

There is no program I've found that can perfectly tell you which playlist to use. Damien recommended one, but I don't find it any better than the manual techniques. Most of the time, I just re-rip the movies since I tend to do them overnight anyways.

SUBTITLES

The greyed out box for Subtitles in Clown_BD usually produces the correct forced subs. I'd say, in my experience, 90% of the time. However, that still leaves 10% where you have incorrect or missing flags. The Incredibles (missing flag) and all of the Star Wars Movies come to mind (flags the commentary tracks as forced). In that case, I usually don't know until after I've ripped the movie the first time (or watch the movie and notice something is wrong). If you get BDSup2Sub you can open each subtitle that was muxed and read the first the subs. Then you know which subs you need (or don't want). You have to rerip the movie and manually force those specific subs. There is also a thread on AVS (I'm too lazy to look at my subscriptions right now---it's pretty late) that lists the sups for a lot of movies. The thread also lists proper subs.
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Originally Posted by agogley View Post

What playlist are you ripping for Brave? .00800? I'm ripping it now. I usually watch in on Blu-Ray the first time so that if there are any problems with the rip, I will notice them (have learned the hard way with forced subs, etc.).
Edit: Nevermind, I saw a post on page 61, LOL. But trying to decide how to handle EAC problem. I guess I could just go the easy way with AnyDVD.
Edit#2: I'm trying to get more information on Brave. Doom9 forum has a couple workarounds although only one person says he has had success. I've also PMed Damien and Mr.fatbill above to see what workarounds they've tried and what success they have. In the meantime, if you are using a workaround please post. I'll post my findings when I can. Also, please advise where in the movie you get the audio drops so I can compare.
Does anybody recall if Brave has any subs I need to worry about? I only saw the movie once (yesterday) and don't recall any subs.

Yes, I am using playlist 800.

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Originally Posted by agogley View Post

Does your ISO from AnyDVD have audio drops? If so, where do you notice them? The Doom9 forum potential fixes look like a lot of work with contradictory reports of success/failure.

I don't know if it does, I haven't tested it out yet. I just finished using tsMuxer to make a m2ts main movie file with HD sound and AC3 with subs. I will test them tomorrow.
post #1857 of 5693
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Yes, I am using playlist 800.
I don't know if it does, I haven't tested it out yet. I just finished using tsMuxer to make a m2ts main movie file with HD sound and AC3 with subs. I will test them tomorrow.

Ok, thanks. Please let us know about the AnyDVD ISO. I just finished using tsMuxeR to make a m2ts main movie file as well.
post #1858 of 5693
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Originally Posted by agogley View Post

Ok, thanks. Please let us know about the AnyDVD ISO. I just finished using tsMuxeR to make a m2ts main movie file as well.

Check your tsMuxer file with MediaInfo and make sure you've got the HD and AC3 sound track. When I ran it the 1st two times, I wasn't getting the AC3 track at all until I remember that decode / demux the HD track first to AC3, then added it and then I was able to get the HD and AC3 track together. The finale M2TS file was 23 GB, which is about the correct size file for movie only with HD and AC3 track. My ISO is 42 GB. If the ISO works without any lag or sound loss, I will keep the ISO.
post #1859 of 5693
The Expendables 2 RedBox Playlist

00684.mpls, 1:42:42
[513+512+503+501+518+516+510+504+502+511+509+505+506+514+507+515].m2ts
- Chapters, 16 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- AC3, English, multi-channel, 48kHz
- AC3, Spanish, multi-channel, 48kHz

No HD audio.
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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

The Expendables 2 RedBox Playlist
00684.mpls, 1:42:42
[513+512+503+501+518+516+510+504+502+511+509+505+506+514+507+515].m2ts
- Chapters, 16 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- AC3, English, multi-channel, 48kHz
- AC3, Spanish, multi-channel, 48kHz
No HD audio.

I guess this is becoming more and more common to drop off the hd audio from rentals...
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