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post #1981 of 5693
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Originally Posted by fido2 View Post

Yes, I did read the first page several times. But it does not in any way shape or form refer to file types (what they mean) and audio formats. I am aware of the programs that are available, but am looking for specific information with regards to audio tracks. As stated, I hve used make mkv and handbrake, but was unable to find any audio options.
I appreciate your post and the attempt to limit unnecessary posts, but after reading a few pages, I was still left with some questions.
Thank you to dbone, I will look into ripping to folder structure. If anyone else has any suggestions, feel free to PM me.

The one thing to understand, there is no "perfect" encode, everyone will have different tastes, and there are so many variables. When I encode I do a few different methods (for my Blu rays):

- Ripbot264 - probably my most used tool. I would encode using the CQ=20, High Profile, mkv
- Handbrake - I have always used this for SD content. However, for Blu rays what I have been doing is using the "Normal" profile, I lock in the resolution at 1280 x 720, and encode to an mp4. This gives me compatibility with my mobile devices, but also allows for better quality when watching on a big tv. Typical file size will be around 2-3GB
post #1982 of 5693
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

The one thing to understand, there is no "perfect" encode, everyone will have different tastes, and there are so many variables. When I encode I do a few different methods (for my Blu rays):
- Ripbot264 - probably my most used tool. I would encode using the CQ=20, High Profile, mkv
- Handbrake - I have always used this for SD content. However, for Blu rays what I have been doing is using the "Normal" profile, I lock in the resolution at 1280 x 720, and encode to an mp4. This gives me compatibility with my mobile devices, but also allows for better quality when watching on a big tv. Typical file size will be around 2-3GB

Ive been a big fan of handbrake myself. The file sizes are great and makes for excellent compatibility. With the addition of a HTPC, I wont have to worry as much about compatibility and can focus more on quality (sound being my main concern). I think I'm going to look into the ISO format until Hard Drive space becomes an issue. Thank you.
post #1983 of 5693
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Originally Posted by fido2 View Post

I'll start of by saying that I'm sure this question has been answered many times over, but I'll be honest and say there is no way I'm going to be able to read 66 pages of posts. So I apologize in advance.
Would anyone be able to recommend the easiest and cheapest way to rip a bluray and lose as little video quality as possible and retain all of the audio?
Currently I'm using Make MKV to rip the disc and then using handbrake to convert to mp4. This leaves me with a small file that looks good enough and is easily read by my PS3. However, I'm not sure that it is keeping the best possible audio. In the near future I'll be building a HTPC and moving away from the PS3.
If someone could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate it.
Thanks!

I'm not clear on what your final goal is. If you want just the main feature from the disc in the best possible quality, you're already doing that with MakeMKV. Make MKV just pulls the streams you want from the disc without any re-encoding and muxes them into an different container. There's no need to convert anything, you get the original streams bit for bit. These MKV files will play on an HTPC easily. If you want to keep menus than you would have to go with the iso which will be a larger file. You would also have to buy a commercial player to get all the menus to work on your HTPC... I don't think there are any open source players yet that can access the menus from a blu-ray.
post #1984 of 5693
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Originally Posted by igboo View Post

I'm not clear on what your final goal is. If you want just the main feature from the disc in the best possible quality, you're already doing that with MakeMKV. Make MKV just pulls the streams you want from the disc without any re-encoding and muxes them into an different container. There's no need to convert anything, you get the original streams bit for bit. These MKV files will play on an HTPC easily. If you want to keep menus than you would have to go with the iso which will be a larger file. You would also have to buy a commercial player to get all the menus to work on your HTPC... I don't think there are any open source players yet that can access the menus from a blu-ray.

My thoughts and requirements have changed over the last few days, so I apologize for the confusion. But from what people have been saying, my understanding is that makemkv should be all that I need for the moment. When file size becomes an issue, I'm assuming I'll have to use another program to reduce file size. When that happens I'll be looking for something that retains the full audio quality (Dolby TrueHD or equivalent) as my only requirement.

As a side note, I'm not looking to have menu's or other extras as part of the file, but do not completely oppose them.
post #1985 of 5693
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Originally Posted by fido2 View Post


Thank you to dbone, I will look into ripping to folder structure. If anyone else has any suggestions, feel free to PM me.

dbone's helpful guides are linked in the first post, too. They are must reads.
post #1986 of 5693
I am deciding with the cinavia threat to move away from full bluray copies.

Movies are easy and generally none hassle, but i am wondering if people in the community ever buy bluray tv shows. I find very little information on this and i have no idea if people are spending copious amounts of time i assume this would require to do bluray tv shows. Movies are easy. Doing a 13-26 episode per season tv show is going to take time. Right now I am likely looking at hundreds of episodes. Specifically finding a needle in a haystack which is forced subtitles. Odd episodes need forced subtitles. I have no idea which episodes would need them, all I know is even english tv shows on bluray often have occasional episodes with some foreign dialogue and forced subtitles.

My plan is to use xbmc.

I have a bunch of bluray tv folder rips, i am starting here. It also makes little sense in xbmc to click on a tv episode and then launch a disc with an entirely separate menu so I am remuxing each episode to mkv.

My issue and fear is forced subtitles. Originally I hoped to take the mt2s files per episode and could just use those. That however leaves me without chapters, and no forced subtitle detection.

I found another eac3to gui and it looked like the holy grail for what i wanted, but for some reason this apparently is 2 year old software no longer works. From what i can tell when it did work, it automatically muxed forced subtitles and chapters into a nice mkv with one touch and could do large batches. Blurip does this and its great, but I cant do or add multiple streams (tv episodes) per disc to the queue, and i dont want to sound lazy, but if i buy a bluray tv series, I dont want to be spending my entire weekend muxing 80 some episodes. . If blurip could do batch jobs, or the Queue option would actually do multiple streams (tv episode) per disc, I would be happy, since instead of doing 80 some episodes individually, i would instead only have to do 12 discs for example, but as of now, it only seems to allow you to do one stream (tv episode) at a time per disc and many bluray tv shows can have 3-7 episodes per disc. I just dont have that much free time on my hands to be doing this whenever I add a new tv show.

So I am hoping the users on here can recommend the least time consuming option, Clownbd looks closest but I am assuming I would have to do each single remux one by one still even if i do a batch demux it wont do it all like eac3to gui?

I am a bit overwhelmed I was looking at season 5 of the office for instance on bluray with 24 episodes alone in that season. To find forced subtitles, and then mux these seems to be a daunting task. Blurip would be the answer if it could do multiple steams per disc with one click, like makemkv but it cant, yet makemkv has no forced subtitle solution....I just wonder if anyone has experience with tv bluray shows and what would be the easiest quickest solution?

And yes i read all dbones guides, another eac3to gui was exactly what I wanted, but that option is gone.
Edited by Murilo - 12/17/12 at 3:31am
post #1987 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

I am deciding with the cinavia threat to move away from full bluray copies.
I don't quite see the connection here. Cinavia is embedded in the audio stream of the main title so it doesn't matter whether you rip the disk as a full copy or just rip the main title. No matter how you package it or re-package it or recode it, when you play the main title Cinavia will be embedded in the audio stream and trigger a compliant player to action. Cinavia can be applied to any audio stream, whether on BD or DVD.

Your exposition about the drudgery of ripping TV series episodes is pretty much spot on. Ripping individual episodes of a TV series is an arduous task. Even using Clown_BD with its batch mode, it only took me a couple of disks to realize I wanted no part of it -- it's a massive time sink. I made the simple decision to rip TV series as full disk .iso files and thus use the menus on the disk to pick the episodes I want to watch. This, of course, means having a player that will play full menus. With ripping individual episodes of BluRay TV series, its not just having to cope with forced subtitles for each episode but identifying which playlist goes with each episode. DVD is doable because the players have an OSD which associates a title# with the episode you are viewing. I have not seen any BD player that does the same for BD disks.
post #1988 of 5693
Thread Starter 
TV Series rips are definately a lot of work. I use Handbrake because I don't have room enough to store full size copies. After you do a couple series, you start asking yourself "Do I really want this series?" Because once you buy it, you realize you have at least a week of fooling around with it.
post #1989 of 5693
Quite often series are in single .ts files that can be easily copied.
post #1990 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I don't quite see the connection here. Cinavia is embedded in the audio stream of the main title so it doesn't matter whether you rip the disk as a full copy or just rip the main title. No matter how you package it or re-package it or recode it, when you play the main title Cinavia will be embedded in the audio stream and trigger a compliant player to action. Cinavia can be applied to any audio stream, whether on BD or DVD.
Your exposition about the drudgery of ripping TV series episodes is pretty much spot on. Ripping individual episodes of a TV series is an arduous task. Even using Clown_BD with its batch mode, it only took me a couple of disks to realize I wanted no part of it -- it's a massive time sink. I made the simple decision to rip TV series as full disk .iso files and thus use the menus on the disk to pick the episodes I want to watch. This, of course, means having a player that will play full menus. With ripping individual episodes of BluRay TV series, its not just having to cope with forced subtitles for each episode but identifying which playlist goes with each episode. DVD is doable because the players have an OSD which associates a title# with the episode you are viewing. I have not seen any BD player that does the same for BD disks.

Because the external player I have been using tmt has now enabled cinavia..... my menus are useless or may become useless, unless someone knows of a non cinavia player that has menu support for bluray ? They will become a paperweight taking up unnecessary space...

My option now is to play files in xbmc which is non cinavia enabled, but cannot play full menus and cannot recognize forced pgs subtitle flags creating a huge issue.

Furthermore, if you have a full bluray rips for tv shows in xbmc and have to play them in a player like xbmc which cannot display full menus, what good is it? None of the forced subtitle pgs stuff is honored in xbmc like it is on a full disc, also without menu support you have no indication what episode is being selected. When i click on a full tv series bluray disc and click on the episode i want to watch, and lets say theirs 4 episodes on a disc, you get a playlist popup of the 4 streams with playlist numbers such as 00803.mpls, i have no idea what episode that is.... Its actually pointless. And if my wife uses it? No chance.

This entire cinavia thing has become a nightmare, before this I just used tmt, but I dont know how long that will be an option before I run into bugs and cant update it because cinavia is enabled in new versions.

Their is a solution, but its frustrating dealing with xbmc, someone has made forced subtitle PGS detection for xbmc eden, just a regular user, it works well I am trying it now, it was supposed to be included in frodo, but the xbmc developers think were a niche market who obsesses about quality, and urges us to download low quality subtitles off the internet. So who knows when it gets added. Furthermore the guy that made it left the forum the day i messaged him about continuing his work, and has never been heard from again.

It would solve this entire nightmare for me and many others, im using it right now and it works flawlessly. I guess to do all of this i am simply at the hands of xbmc to add forced subtitle support, then i can eliminate the daunting process of having to rip bluray tv shows per episode and try to flag forced subtitles. I just dont have time myself to run 600 tv episodes through a program individually and check for forced subtitles and mark them in a program.
Edited by Murilo - 12/17/12 at 5:52pm
post #1991 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post


Their is a solution, but its frustrating dealing with xbmc, someone has made forced subtitle PGS detection for xbmc eden, just a regular user, it works well I am trying it now, it was supposed to be included in frodo, but the xbmc developers think were a niche market who obsesses about quality, and urges us to download low quality subtitles off the internet. So who knows when it gets added. Furthermore the guy that made it left the forum the day i messaged him about continuing his work, and has never been heard from again.
It would solve this entire nightmare for me and many others, im using it right now and it works flawlessly. I guess to do all of this i am simply at the hands of xbmc. I just dont have to run 600 tv episodes through a program individually and check for forced subtitles and mark them.

I'm running XBMC Eden also. Can you point me to your threads over there?

 

In XBMC, I never could tell if anyone ever came up with a way to play whole BluRays (either whole-folders or ISO) so the menus work. For right now, I just rip main movie with MakeMKV. Sub-Titles and AC3/DTS 5.1 play and work nicely. I don't have any TV series on BluRay discs. If I did, I suppose I would just get up off the couch and insert it into the real Blu-Ray player ... not ideal, but what choice do I have?

post #1992 of 5693
Tesla curious how you deal with forced subs though? I dont think mkv flags forced subtitles. And with xbmc it wont detect pgs subtitles ripped from makemkv. Do you use media player classic to do so as an external player? I believe mpc has this working. Maybe theirs someway around this Im not thinking of.

The thread is right here


http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=128935

Anyone who is interested in this feature possibly viewing this thread, i suggest letting xbmc know your interested. As mentioned in the thread its gotten very little attention from developers. Bluray stuff is not a huge priority for them sadly.
To use it you just install eden final if you have it, and then copy over the files in the rar package.

As far as menus vlc guys are working on it, not sure of the details, it can play a limited amount of discs I believe with menus.... 5 Years since bluray was created and little bit of progress is only begining to appear regarding menus.It worries me bluray is becoming a niche market. People are starting to use smaller files, netflix ect...

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=147826

You can launch an external player like TMT to play full discs, but you will have to use the june version as its the last one without cinavia implemented.
Edited by Murilo - 12/17/12 at 11:42pm
post #1993 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

Tesla curious how you deal with forced subs though?

No, using the normal XBMC player. Here is my workflow. The best I understand ... the foreign subs are in their own track. You find that track (usually by watching once or searching with VLC) and force it on permanently. Works good in XBMC. SubTitles are off for normal movies but automatically get turned on for MKV files done this way ... perfect.

 

Underworld 4: Awakening (dam scene)
Rise of the Planet of the Apes (when apes talk among themselves)

 

Underworld 4: Awakening

Using MakeMKV 1.7.5

Use DVDFab BluRay Copy 8.x to copy/rip "Full Disc" to a local HDD folder (with at least 50gb free).
- Remove HD Audio, Cinavia, and MiniISO options are all unchecked
- Takes about 1 hour even on a fast machine.
- Upon scaning the disc, DVDFab reports DISC CONTAINS CINAVIA (says it won't play on PS3)

With MakeMKV (to get Subs, ForcedSubs and Chapters)
- File, open files, go to: \BDMV\ and select index.bdmv

MakeMKV is complaining about "on-the-fly" protection.
Maybe something the new DVDFab installed, but I know of no way to disable it.
- didn't cause a problem, I think because movie was already decrypted

Selected the large Title (highest gb ... not chapters).
- There were 2 with 20 gb, so picked the one one top and with more foreign tracks (also, slightly larger)

Save the 5gb and drop the Lossless. DTS-3/2+1 Core only
- Selected all English Audio and sub-title tracks
- took about 15 minutes. 17gb.

Played fine in VLC. Forced Tracks revealed
- The second sub track. It's obvious, because if you select it ... subs don't appear until you get to the dam scene.


Open MKVMergeGUI
Select File -> Header Editor
In Header Editor, select File -> Open
Select your MKV file.
You'll now see the list of tracks. Open the subtitle track you want to be forced.
- Notice there are also 4, but numbered 5,6,7,8. The second one (or #6) must be the right one
Click on "Forced Display" Flag.
In right window, check "Add Element", and then set Current Value to "yes".
Select File -> Save
Select that Subtitle track again
In right window, Current Value to "yes".
Select File -> Save

Only takes a few seconds
Works fine.

You can exit MKVMergeGUI, restart, and re-load header. See that Yes is saved.
You can also load (add) file to main MKVMergeGUI section
- Select the 3rd (of 4) Subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS), General Tab, see Forced track flag is set to Yes.


Edited by Tesla1856 - 12/18/12 at 8:36pm
post #1994 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I don't quite see the connection here. Cinavia is embedded in the audio stream of the main title so it doesn't matter whether you rip the disk as a full copy or just rip the main title. No matter how you package it or re-package it or recode it, when you play the main title Cinavia will be embedded in the audio stream and trigger a compliant player to action. Cinavia can be applied to any audio stream, whether on BD or DVD.
Your exposition about the drudgery of ripping TV series episodes is pretty much spot on. Ripping individual episodes of a TV series is an arduous task. Even using Clown_BD with its batch mode, it only took me a couple of disks to realize I wanted no part of it -- it's a massive time sink. I made the simple decision to rip TV series as full disk .iso files and thus use the menus on the disk to pick the episodes I want to watch. This, of course, means having a player that will play full menus. With ripping individual episodes of BluRay TV series, its not just having to cope with forced subtitles for each episode but identifying which playlist goes with each episode. DVD is doable because the players have an OSD which associates a title# with the episode you are viewing. I have not seen any BD player that does the same for BD disks.

Why are TV series a lot of work? I recently did a test with a few of my BD ISOs of some TV shows. I just loaded up the ISO and ran MakeMKV. In a short time I had ten episodes broken out from the disc with HD audio, legacy audio and the subtitles. My biggest complaint was having to rename all the files that MakeMKV spit out to the name of the show with the episode number. Although I'm not sure how much slower it would be using MakeMKV directly from the disc. But there was very little intervention required from me. And that was only at the beginning and at the end of the process.
post #1995 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Murilo View Post

Because the external player I have been using tmt has now enabled cinavia..... my menus are useless or may become useless, unless someone knows of a non cinavia player that has menu support for bluray ? They will become a paperweight taking up unnecessary space...
OK, for some reason I thought you were using an external hardware media player not media playing software on a HTPC.

Take a look at the new software media player by DVD Fab. No Cinavia, no BDA license and no restrictions -- they ignore all that. It does full BD/DVD menus. I have not played with it yet since I use media players but I will shortly just for fun and information. The player is free if you are only playing ripped files that have been decrypted, which is what it sounds like you are doing. If you want to play the actual commercial disks from the PC's drive you have to buy the license because the player will have to crack the CP on the disk to play it -- no BDA license.

gotta love these guys.
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post #1996 of 5693
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Why are TV series a lot of work? I recently did a test with a few of my BD ISOs of some TV shows. I just loaded up the ISO and ran MakeMKV. In a short time I had ten episodes broken out from the disc with HD audio, legacy audio and the subtitles. My biggest complaint was having to rename all the files that MakeMKV spit out to the name of the show with the episode number.
For the reason I stated.
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

With ripping individual episodes of BluRay TV series, its not just having to cope with forced subtitles for each episode but identifying which playlist goes with each episode.
Do you have an easy way to associate ahead of time which playlist goes with which episode?
How did you know what to rename each of those .MKV files without playing them and playing the episodes on the disk to match them up.
post #1997 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

For the reason I stated.
Do you have an easy way to associate ahead of time which playlist goes with which episode?
How did you know what to rename each of those .MKV files without playing them and playing the episodes on the disk to match them up.

That is the most time consuming part frown.gif

Bill
post #1998 of 5693
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

That is the most time consuming part frown.gif
Bill
And the reason why I want no part of it -- it is a massive time sink.

I have not played with the new DVD Fab player yet, but I'm wondering if they have an OSD in the player that will identify the playlist currently playing. That would be huge, not just for TV series BD but for movie BD that have 100 fake playlists to thwart ripping.
post #1999 of 5693
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Why are TV series a lot of work? I recently did a test with a few of my BD ISOs of some TV shows. I just loaded up the ISO and ran MakeMKV. In a short time I had ten episodes broken out from the disc with HD audio, legacy audio and the subtitles. My biggest complaint was having to rename all the files that MakeMKV spit out to the name of the show with the episode number. Although I'm not sure how much slower it would be using MakeMKV directly from the disc. But there was very little intervention required from me. And that was only at the beginning and at the end of the process.

I haven't had too much trouble identifying the proper episode I find they are usually in order, although sometimes you have special feature or bonus episodes from other shows that cause problems. But I have to name the episodes to something recognizeable later and it takes a while to process a single season and obviously a lot longer to process multiple seasons. Then I use TV rename to name the files, track them, and download the artwork. Then I have to run them through Zappiti.

So yeah, I'd say that's a lot of work.
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

No, using the normal XBMC player. Here is my workflow. The best I undertsand ... the foreign subs are in their own track. You find that track (usually by watching once or searching with VLC) and force it on permanently. Works good in XBMC. SubTitles are off for normal movies but automatically get turned on for MKV files done this way ... perfect.

Underworld 4: Awakening (dam scene)

Rise of the Planet of the Apes (when apes talk among themselves)

Underworld 4: Awakening
Using MakeMKV 1.7.5
Use DVDFab BluRay Copy 8.x to copy/rip "Full Disc" to a local HDD folder (with at least 50gb free).

- Remove HD Audio, Cinavia, and MiniISO options are all unchecked

- Takes about 1 hour even on a fast machine.

- Upon scaning the disc, DVDFab reports DISC CONTAINS CINAVIA (says it won't play on PS3)
With MakeMKV (to get Subs, ForcedSubs and Chapters)

- File, open files, go to: \BDMV\ and select index.bdmv
MakeMKV is complaining about "on-the-fly" protection.

Maybe something the new DVDFab installed, but I know of no way to disable it.

- didn't cause a problem, I think because movie was already decrypted
Selected the large Title (highest gb ... not chapters).

- There were 2 with 20 gb, so picked the one one top and with more foreign tracks (also, slightly larger)
Save the 5gb and drop the Lossless. DTS-3/2+1 Core only

- Selected all English Audio and sub-title tracks

- took about 15 minutes. 17gb.
Played fine in VLC. Forced Tracks revealed

- The second sub track. It's obvious, because if you select it ... subs don't appear until you get to the dam scene.


Open MKVMergeGUI

Select File -> Header Editor

In Header Editor, select File -> Open

Select your MKV file.

You'll now see the list of tracks. Open the subtitle track you want to be forced.

- Notice there are also 4, but numbered 5,6,7,8. The second one (or #6) must be the right one

Click on "Forced Display" Flag.

In right window, check "Add Element", and then set Current Value to "yes".

Select File -> Save

Select that Subtitle track again

In right window, Current Value to "yes".

Select File -> Save
Only takes a few seconds

Works fine.
You can exit MKVMergeGUI, restart, and re-load header. See that Yes is saved.

You can also load (add) file to main MKVMergeGUI section

- Select the 3rd (of 4) Subtitles (S_HDMV/PGS), General Tab, see Forced track flag is set to Yes.


Ok but this is where I find a problem, forced subtitles are not always a seperate track, im sure their is some movies like this, but a recent example would be breaking bad season 4 the Spanish speaking parts are forced, but they are included right in with the entire english subtitle stream. So if you force that stream you get subtitles all the way through.

Hence why I need to use eac3to option for more reliable method of getting forced subtitles extract, but the entire process doing tv show seasons is excruciatingly time consuming even if i would do it this way, and I did consider it.

Either way i have burnt movies with mkv merge like you do, but again buying a tv season on bluray and doing this per episode is just overwhelming. I guess you said you would just put it in the drive if you wanted to watch, unfortunately I am stubborn i want everything ripped ready to be easily accessed frown.gif
Edited by Murilo - 12/18/12 at 7:52pm
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Why are TV series a lot of work? I recently did a test with a few of my BD ISOs of some TV shows. I just loaded up the ISO and ran MakeMKV. In a short time I had ten episodes broken out from the disc with HD audio, legacy audio and the subtitles. My biggest complaint was having to rename all the files that MakeMKV spit out to the name of the show with the episode number. Although I'm not sure how much slower it would be using MakeMKV directly from the disc. But there was very little intervention required from me. And that was only at the beginning and at the end of the process.

Beside the reason mentioned as being incredibly time consuming. Number 2 for me would be finding if an episode in a show requires forced subtitles. Dothraki for game of thrones for example. I was looking at boardwalk empire season 1 recently as well and eac3to detected 1 forced subtitle in the second episode, I know season 3 when it is released has multiple Italian speaking scenes, i sat their doing this and thinking about all the time this would require per episode to 1.) find forced subtitles in a episode, and mux it, 2.) find which file corresponds to which episode and i gave up. When you have seasons of 12 episodes finding forced subtitles in a show as well seems incredibly time consuming. Instead of doing 1 movie, your essentially having to do 12 per season. Buy a tv show boxset and I dont even want to touch it.
Edited by Murilo - 12/18/12 at 7:51pm
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

For the reason I stated.
Do you have an easy way to associate ahead of time which playlist goes with which episode?
How did you know what to rename each of those .MKV files without playing them and playing the episodes on the disk to match them up.

I see what you mean. The BD ISOs I used to test had all the episodes in order. So title 0 is episode 1 and title 9 is episode 10.

I guess that would be a problem if they aren't in order.
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

And the reason why I want no part of it -- it is a massive time sink.
I have not played with the new DVD Fab player yet, but I'm wondering if they have an OSD in the player that will identify the playlist currently playing. That would be huge, not just for TV series BD but for movie BD that have 100 fake playlists to thwart ripping.

You know what this is a good idea, but your answer is xbmc frodo build will do that. You click on a blue ray file structure and a playlist pops up (not hundreds but the big ones relating to an episode). Although Im not sure how this works with a disc, i think you might need any dvd or something to do it right from the disc.

However my plan was to just load the disc in total media theater, and click on each episode, and then click on the mt2s file to match them up.

I dont know which would be less time consuming.

I have decided I am not dealing with detecting and muxing forced subtitles for tv shows due to the time required per episode. so I am at the hands of xbmc adding the fix for detecting forced pgs subtitles. So i have some way of activating them if I need to.


Also just a note I was told elsewhere the mt2s files are not always in order, I believe kilroy pointed that out, i have not came across this yet personally, but kilroy would know. i know that line of thinking however. When you look at disc 1 of a tv show you see 00803.mt2s, 00804.mt2s, 00805.mt2s, and my natural thinking was their in order. But apparently you will end up with some shows not honoring that.
post #2004 of 5693
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Take a look at the new software media player by DVD Fab. No Cinavia, no BDA license and no restrictions -- they ignore all that. It does full BD/DVD menus. I have not played with it yet since I use media players but I will shortly just for fun and information. The player is free if you are only playing ripped files that have been decrypted, which is what it sounds like you are doing. If you want to play the actual commercial disks from the PC's drive you have to buy the license because the player will have to crack the CP on the disk to play it -- no BDA license.
gotta love these guys.

Interesting. I saw it over there but I didn't catch that it played full ripped BD with menus from HDD (I'm guessing full-folders or ISO). Then, the only problem would be dedicating 40gb HDD-space to each movie.

 

I don't mess with external players on my XBMC (dropped all that when I switched away from MediaPortal) or betas or branches. However, it sure sounds like a good candidate for external player (if my understanding of how it would work is correct).

 

Frodo is looking good but I didn't see anything official about BD.

post #2005 of 5693
So, I ripped Total Recall yesterday with ClownBD as BD Folder structure with HD and AC3 audio track as I always do. I started watching today before going to work, and I notice tiny audio drops through out the movie about 10 min. apart. I switch to AC3 audio track, and the audio drops went away. Anyone else noticed this? I re-ripped the movie with ClownBD again, and I am also doing a FULL BD folder structure with AnyDVD HD, and I will be also doing a MKV file with HD and AC3 sound track to see if I notice the same issues.
post #2006 of 5693
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So, I ripped Total Recall yesterday with ClownBD as BD Folder structure with HD and AC3 audio track as I always do. I started watching today before going to work, and I notice tiny audio drops through out the movie about 10 min. apart. I switch to AC3 audio track, and the audio drops went away. Anyone else noticed this? I re-ripped the movie with ClownBD again, and I am also doing a FULL BD folder structure with AnyDVD HD, and I will be also doing a MKV file with HD and AC3 sound track to see if I notice the same issues.

I'm about an hour in and still no drops, I put it in an ISO container though so another option to try...movie only with HD and AC3. I did notice a lot of warnings for this in the log, mostly Audio overlaps, but there was another that I don't recall.

I had a weird sound "pop" with Cars 2 at one of the overlaps with the MA 7.1 track the other day part way in. I redid it with the MA 5.1 but haven't watched it through yet.
post #2007 of 5693
Yeah, I also did an ISO with AnyDVD HD, which I will be testing too.
post #2008 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

So, I ripped Total Recall yesterday with ClownBD as BD Folder structure with HD and AC3 audio track as I always do. I started watching today before going to work, and I notice tiny audio drops through out the movie about 10 min. apart. I switch to AC3 audio track, and the audio drops went away. Anyone else noticed this? I re-ripped the movie with ClownBD again, and I am also doing a FULL BD folder structure with AnyDVD HD, and I will be also doing a MKV file with HD and AC3 sound track to see if I notice the same issues.

Are you watching on your PC or a media player like the WDTV SMP? I ripped to a MKV using MakeMKV and watched on a WDTV SMP and also had the audio drops with the DD TrueHD track.
post #2009 of 5693
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Are you watching on your PC or a media player like the WDTV SMP? I ripped to a MKV using MakeMKV and watched on a WDTV SMP and also had the audio drops with the DD TrueHD track.

I was streaming it from my unRaid server to Dune D1 media player. I haven't been able to test the new BD Folder structure, MKV or ISO file since the kids are watching Christmas movies.
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I was streaming it from my unRaid server to Dune D1 media player. I haven't been able to test the new BD Folder structure, MKV or ISO file since the kids are watching Christmas movies.

I didn't experience any drops but two spots where there was a momentary freeze, one spot at almost exactly one hour in an another about 1:26 in. Switching to AC3 eliminates them so obviously tied to the HD audio track. I normally can't tell the difference between lossless and lossy but this movie is an exception.
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