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Originally Posted by ejhuzy View Post

Sorry for the bump, but I never got an opinion on this. Any ideas why the rip would be 13 hours long? If no ideas I won't bump again smile.gif

I also recently ripped Oceans 13 BR to movie-only folder structure, and noticed the subtitle issue you mentioned (track 14 empty, no forced subs), but didn't notice it being 13 hrs long. I'll try to re-check in the next couple days.
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

The PCH 200-300 series supports full menus, the 400 series does not. Keep in mind the Dune is a lot more reliable for playback then the PCH (esp. the 300)

Thank you. How is it more reliable? For Blu-ray and DVD which one would you recommend?
Edited by John.Welch - 1/11/13 at 9:33pm
post #2103 of 3055
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Originally Posted by cnelson87 View Post

I also recently ripped Oceans 13 BR to movie-only folder structure, and noticed the subtitle issue you mentioned (track 14 empty, no forced subs), but didn't notice it being 13 hrs long. I'll try to re-check in the next couple days.

Thanks. Please let me know what you find out.
post #2104 of 3055
Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know which version of.NET framework is needed for Suprip to work? I am running XP Professional. I ask because I remember reading many years ago certain programs run only on certain frameworks.
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Originally Posted by jhck66 View Post

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know which version of.NET framework is needed for Suprip to work? I am running XP Professional. I ask because I remember reading many years ago certain programs run only on certain frameworks.

Here you go.
post #2106 of 3055
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Originally Posted by jhck66 View Post

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know which version of.NET framework is needed for Suprip to work? I am running XP Professional. I ask because I remember reading many years ago certain programs run only on certain frameworks.

Install which ever it needs. It should prompt you if you don't have it.

 

You can install more than one .Net Framework ... they work in parallel to each other ... each called as needed.

post #2107 of 3055
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Here you go.

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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Install which ever it needs. It should prompt you if you don't have it.

You can install more than one .Net Framework ... they work in parallel to each other ... each called as needed.


Thanks guys. I'll try by installing 1.1 and if that fails 2.0, etc.
post #2108 of 3055
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Tesla1856 View Post

Install which ever it needs. It should prompt you if you don't have it.

You can install more than one .Net Framework ... they work in parallel to each other ... each called as needed.

This is good information. I didn't know they worked in parallel.
post #2109 of 3055
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Originally Posted by ejhuzy View Post

I'm having an issue ripping Ocean's Thirteen. I always use Clown_BD to rip to BDMV folder, movie only. I'm having two issues.
1) When ClownBD is done, the resulting movie in the BDMV STREAM directory is 13 hours long. At least that's what MediaInfo says. I played the movie in MPC-HC. It played fine, but it too reports the movie being 13 hours long?
2) The "Movies with Forced Subs" thread says that this movie has forced subs. I haven't watched from the disc itself to confirm, but ClownBD doesn't find any forced subs. There are 3 english tracks. Two are really large and one is 1KB. When I try to open the small file with BDSup2Sub, it fails to read it.
Any ideas guys?
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Originally Posted by cnelson87 View Post

I also recently ripped Oceans 13 BR to movie-only folder structure, and noticed the subtitle issue you mentioned (track 14 empty, no forced subs), but didn't notice it being 13 hrs long. I'll try to re-check in the next couple days.
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Originally Posted by ejhuzy View Post

Thanks. Please let me know what you find out.

Sorry for the delay.
So my wife and I watched Oceans 13 last week. I can confirm that my rip also says it's 13 hrs long but I've no idea why. And the only forced subs are when they're speaking spanish in the Mexican dice factory but the subs are "burned" into the video, not a separate track. Maybe the Forced Subs thread and Google spreadsheet could be updated?
I'm going to assume the 13 hrs and empty subs track are just sloppy authoring errors but they don't seem to affect anything, it still ripped and played fine.
post #2110 of 3055
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Originally Posted by cnelson87 View Post



Sorry for the delay.
So my wife and I watched Oceans 13 last week. I can confirm that my rip also says it's 13 hrs long but I've no idea why. And the only forced subs are when they're speaking spanish in the Mexican dice factory but the subs are "burned" into the video, not a separate track. Maybe the Forced Subs thread and Google spreadsheet could be updated?
I'm going to assume the 13 hrs and empty subs track are just sloppy authoring errors but they don't seem to affect anything, it still ripped and played fine.

Nelson, thanks for the update buddy. Much appreciated.
post #2111 of 3055
Hi Guys
My Samsung bluray optical drive is dying and looking for a good replacement
I need it to rip only and a internal drive
Would appreciate any ideas on a good one
thanks
post #2112 of 3055
I've always used the LG BD burners and have been very pleased with their performance, price and longevity.
post #2113 of 3055
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Originally Posted by denass View Post

Hi Guys
My Samsung bluray optical drive is dying and looking for a good replacement
I need it to rip only and a internal drive
Would appreciate any ideas on a good one
thanks

I use Samsung, LG, and Lite-On. I have at least two of each. They have all worked very well for me. But occassionally I will run into a disc that one or two brands will not rip. But for those problems discs I've always had at least one brand that was able to complete the rip.
post #2114 of 3055
Thanks guys
bought a liteon today and very quiet
Both my friend and I started having similar issues with our samsungs within the last 2 weeks
We are thinking maybe an update in win7 might be the culprit
I had no trouble ripping with dvdfab on my laptop and that is XP
Have kept both the samsung and new liteon in my pc
will do some more testing tomorrow
thanks
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Has anyone here built a machine solely for ripping blu-rays? I'm attempting this and could use some help in the matter. I have an old machine that was used as a HTPC which I've converted for this purpose. It currently has 3 BD drives (which I'd like to expand to 4) and a separate HDD for each drive to write to. I've installed a separate version of Clown_BD on each HDD. I've run into a few issues doing this and could use some advice.

1) It doesn't seem like this is saving me any time. If I rip 2 discs at a time, it takes twice as long, per disc, than just ripping one. If I rip 3 discs at once, it takes 3 times as long, per disc. What's limiting this and is there anything I can do to fix this?

2) Clown_BD has run into all kinds of issues having multiple copies open. Quite often, it seems like one copy will revert back to the settings of one that was already open and the paths will get crossed. Before beginning a rip, I am having to go back and verify all options so that it points to its own version of eac3to, imgburn, tsmuxer. Not sure if I'm explaining this correctly, but here's an example. I have 3 copies of clown_bd (c:\clown, d:\clown, e:\clown). Each one is directed to use a path on it's associated HDD for the associated programs (ie c:\clown uses c:\tsmuxer, c:\eac3to, and c:\imgburn) and also rips the disc to the same drive (c:\movies). The problem I'm running into is that having 3 versions open at the same time, and they're all pointed to different directories (c:\clown might be using d:\eac3to, for example). Any ideas on this?
post #2116 of 3055
Are the all the hard drives optical drives possibly sharing the same bus or something? I can rip four titles concurrently from 2 BD drives connected to USB and two connected to sata ports. As long as I don't have more than two optical drives ripping to one local hard drive, speeds seem to be just as fast as when ripping one title. If I do three titles to one hard drive, when they get up close to their max read speeds, the rips will start to slow down because the buffers all get full.
post #2117 of 3055
I really have no idea. What would I need to look for? Everything is connected internally via the motherboard's SATA ports if that helps.
post #2118 of 3055
The demux locations are all going to different physical drives and not just a single partitioned drive correct? It's always worth asking, lol.

Bill
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Correct
post #2120 of 3055
And it's completing successfully but it's just taking a long time to do so?

Bill
post #2121 of 3055
Yes, when I had two going at the same time last night, it took a total of 4 hours.
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Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post

Yes, when I had two going at the same time last night, it took a total of 4 hours.

I agree with aaron that is is possibly a bus issue then. Also did you run riplock on the drives to help with the read speeds?

Bill
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No, I had no idea what that even was until I just googled it.
post #2124 of 3055
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Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post

Yes, when I had two going at the same time last night, it took a total of 4 hours.
I've seen the same thing on my system (I7 quad core, 12GB, W7-64) with Clown_BD. It does not appear to have been written to run concurrent copies of itself in a multi-tasking environment. That is probably why they give you batch functionality. Don't forget it is largely just a shell program that calls independent utilities written by different groups. These utilities are CPU hogs and don't play nice if you try to run concurrent copies. When I'm running a Clown_BD batch, I generally can't do anything else on my machine. Just loading a web page could take 45 sec.

In contrast DVD Fab is made to multi-task and run concurrent copies. I generally have two instances of DVD Fab running to do full-disk BD rips to the same HDD and both run at full speed.
post #2125 of 3055
I would suggest you separate the ripping phase from the demuxing and remuxing phase.

Use Imgburn to rip to an ISO image. You can have multiple instances of ImgBurn running (one for each BD drive). Make sure each rip is being written to a separate HD. The BD drives are not fast enough (make sure riplock is removed) to overflow your bus and so all your rips should perform as fast as the BD drive and disc quality allows.

Once you have all your discs as ISO images, then use Virtual CloneDrive to load the images one at a time and use ClownBD to demux and remux. Make sure the ISO image and demux locations are on two different physical HDs. Also, the demux and remux locations should be on two differen physical HDs. ClownBD will read from the ISO image location and write to the demux location. Then it will read from the demux location and write to the remux location. So the read location and write location should never be the same physical HD.

My general impression is that ImbBurn is much better and faster at ripping and ClownBD (eac3to, tsmuxer) is much faster when processing an ISO image than from the actual disc. Overall, the total rip time should be less.

For example to do two 50GB BD disc:

01. Imburn will take about 35-40 minutes for both discs (running currently).
02. ClownBD will take about 15-20 minutes (demux & remux) for each disc image.

Total time for the two 50GB BD discs = 40 + 20 + 20 = 80 minutes
Edited by mifronte - 1/24/13 at 8:43pm
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

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Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post

Yes, when I had two going at the same time last night, it took a total of 4 hours.
I've seen the same thing on my system (I7 quad core, 12GB, W7-64) with Clown_BD. It does not appear to have been written to run concurrent copies of itself in a multi-tasking environment. That is probably why they give you batch functionality. Don't forget it is largely just a shell program that calls independent utilities written by different groups. These utilities are CPU hogs and don't play nice if you try to run concurrent copies. When I'm running a Clown_BD batch, I generally can't do anything else on my machine. Just loading a web page could take 45 sec.

In contrast DVD Fab is made to multi-task and run concurrent copies. I generally have two instances of DVD Fab running to do full-disk BD rips to the same HDD and both run at full speed.

If you're running win7/8 you can run them in compatibility/virtual machine mode. Just make sure you have multiple folders of the app you are trying to run.

I doubt this is a bus issue. I doubt two optical discs can even come close to saturating the bus.
post #2127 of 3055
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Originally Posted by DotJun View Post

If you're running win7/8 you can run them in compatibility/virtual machine mode. Just make sure you have multiple folders of the app you are trying to run.

I doubt this is a bus issue. I doubt two optical discs can even come close to saturating the bus.
I rather run Clown_BD as a batch. I don't use it for the primary disk rip anyway -- I run 2 instances of DVD Fab for that.
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I have reviewed this thread for the past 1hr+ and am still a bit lost as to how to rip BD to a hard drive. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could help guide me or can anyone help get me started?
I have a Denon 4311ci and Oppo BDP-93 Blu Ray player.
I am looking to rip some of my blu-ray movies as well as regular music CD's I own to an external hard drive hooked up to the Oppo for playback.
What Program is best for this task? I would prefer starting with FREE software and Clown BD seems to be the choice of most..the problem I am having is that you also need to use other programs in conjuctions with this and I do not which ones and how?
Also, my thought is to buy a 3TB external drive and just plug it in via USB to the Oppo, is this a good solution?
Thanks....
post #2129 of 3055
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

I have reviewed this thread for the past 1hr+ and am still a bit lost as to how to rip BD to a hard drive. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could help guide me or can anyone help get me started?
I have a Denon 4311ci and Oppo BDP-93 Blu Ray player.
I am looking to rip some of my blu-ray movies as well as regular music CD's I own to an external hard drive hooked up to the Oppo for playback.
What Program is best for this task? I would prefer starting with FREE software and Clown BD seems to be the choice of most..the problem I am having is that you also need to use other programs in conjuctions with this and I do not which ones and how?
Also, my thought is to buy a 3TB external drive and just plug it in via USB to the Oppo, is this a good solution?
Thanks....
Since they offer a free trial I suggest getting your feet wet with: http://www.dvdfab.com/tutorial

In any event you WILL need to BUY software to remove the encryption. You could buy AnyDVDHD or DVDFab.

If you rip the full disc understand that newer BD players will have Cinevia built in and if the movie has that on it the ripped movie will not play longer then 45 seconds on your player (if you are looking to rip the full disc bit for bit).
post #2130 of 3055
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

I have reviewed this thread for the past 1hr+ and am still a bit lost as to how to rip BD to a hard drive. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could help guide me or can anyone help get me started?
I have a Denon 4311ci and Oppo BDP-93 Blu Ray player.
I am looking to rip some of my blu-ray movies as well as regular music CD's I own to an external hard drive hooked up to the Oppo for playback.
What Program is best for this task? I would prefer starting with FREE software and Clown BD seems to be the choice of most..the problem I am having is that you also need to use other programs in conjuctions with this and I do not which ones and how?
Also, my thought is to buy a 3TB external drive and just plug it in via USB to the Oppo, is this a good solution?
Thanks....

I use ClownBD in conjunction with AnyDVD HD (encryptions removal) 99% of the time. So, you need a software that can removed / disable the DVD / BD encryption prior to being able to rip it. A lot of people use DVDFab too. You can try MakeMKV, which is free while in beta, which can actually do both encryption and ripping.
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