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post #2131 of 3133
1/29/13 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

I have reviewed this thread for the past 1hr+ and am still a bit lost as to how to rip BD to a hard drive. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could help guide me or can anyone help get me started?
I have a Denon 4311ci and Oppo BDP-93 Blu Ray player.
I am looking to rip some of my blu-ray movies as well as regular music CD's I own to an external hard drive hooked up to the Oppo for playback.
What Program is best for this task? I would prefer starting with FREE software and Clown BD seems to be the choice of most..the problem I am having is that you also need to use other programs in conjuctions with this and I do not which ones and how?
Also, my thought is to buy a 3TB external drive and just plug it in via USB to the Oppo, is this a good solution?
Thanks....

The OPPO FAQ has a brief outline of formats and tools: What are the alternatives to .iso files?

Note that a 3TB drive is probably partitioned with the newer GPT tables, which the BDP-93 does not support. You could repartition it to use the older MBR tables, but 2TB is the largest partition with that scheme.

-Bill
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post #2132 of 3133
1/29/13 at 11:22am
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

If you rip the full disc understand that newer BD players will have Cinevia built in and if the movie has that on it the ripped movie will not play longer then 45 seconds on your player (if you are looking to rip the full disc bit for bit).

This is incorrect. Cinavia protection doesn't trigger until the content has played for 20 min.
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post #2133 of 3133
1/29/13 at 11:26am
Another good resource.
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post #2134 of 3133
1/29/13 at 11:59am
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

This is incorrect. Cinavia protection doesn't trigger until the content has played for 20 min.
20 minutes - 20 seconds - I couldn't remember the time but regardless: it stops playing audio.
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post #2135 of 3133
1/29/13 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

If you rip the full disc understand that newer BD players will have Cinevia built in and if the movie has that on it the ripped movie will not play longer then 45 seconds on your player (if you are looking to rip the full disc bit for bit).
I'm not sure from the way you wrote this whether you are indicating Cinavia only kicks in if you rip the full disk -- if you are, that is not correct. Cinavia is contained in the audio track of the main_title.m2ts file. So even if one just does a main_title rip, Cinavia is there. Bit for bit is not required for Cinavia. Recoding the audio doesn't remove it -- so far nothing does.
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

This is incorrect. Cinavia protection doesn't trigger until the content has played for 20 min.
Cinavia triggers audio muting after 20 min if playing a commercial BD rip. Less than 1 min if playing a camcorder pirate copy from a theater presentation.
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post #2136 of 3133
1/29/13 at 12:54pm
Who the hell watches a movie recorded in a theater with a handheld camcorder? Is that a problem for the industry?
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post #2137 of 3133
1/29/13 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Who the hell watches a movie recorded in a theater with a handheld camcorder? Is that a problem for the industry?

Actually there is great competition to provide the first and best.
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post #2138 of 3133
1/29/13 at 1:25pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Who the hell watches a movie recorded in a theater with a handheld camcorder? Is that a problem for the industry?
You would be surprised. It's a main staple of the torrent crowd.
Yes, it is a problem which is why Cinavia was put on theatrical releases in theaters years before they started putting it on home theater DVD and BD.
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post #2139 of 3133
1/29/13 at 1:29pm
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

You would be surprised. It's a main staple of the torrent crowd.
Yes, it is a problem which is why Cinavia was put on theatrical releases in theaters years before they started putting it on home theater DVD and BD.

I guess I am surprised. Those people obviously have a different idea of "enjoying a movie" than I do.

Jeff
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post #2140 of 3133
1/29/13 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I guess I am surprised. Those people obviously have a different idea of "enjoying a movie" than I do.

Jeff
Personally I wouldn't touch it. If it's worth my time to watch I want to see it in BluRay -- uncompressed.

My daughter and her girlfriend went to see Skyfall the day it came out in theaters. The following weekend that same girlfriend came over with a DVD of Skyfall that her boyfriend got from that bit-torrent thing -- so they could watch it again. Out of curiosity, I watched for about 60 sec and playing on my Oppo to our 50" plasma it looked like crap.

But they were OK with it -- kids don't care about quality.
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post #2141 of 3133
1/29/13 at 2:59pm
I remember people watching King Kong at home the day it came out in theaters.
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post #2142 of 3133
1/29/13 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Personally I wouldn't touch it. If it's worth my time to watch I want to see it in BluRay -- uncompressed.

My daughter and her girlfriend went to see Skyfall the day it came out in theaters. The following weekend that same girlfriend came over with a DVD of Skyfall that her boyfriend got from that bit-torrent thing -- so they could watch it again. Out of curiosity, I watched for about 60 sec and playing on my Oppo to our 50" plasma it looked like crap.

But they were OK with it -- kids don't care about quality.
Many adults don't seem to either. I've seen parts of copies like that over the years and everytime I saw it I wanted to vomit. Yet there was always a crowd of adults watching and they did not seem to care at all.
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post #2143 of 3133
1/30/13 at 4:59am
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

Many adults don't seem to either. I've seen parts of copies like that over the years and everytime I saw it I wanted to vomit. Yet there was always a crowd of adults watching and they did not seem to care at all.

And they probably think we are too caught up in the picture quality to enjoy the movie.... I still often catch my wife watching the SD channels on the HDTV., drives me bananas.
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post #2144 of 3133
1/30/13 at 6:52am
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Originally Posted by DanPackMan View Post

And they probably think we are too caught up in the picture quality to enjoy the movie.... I still often catch my wife watching the SD channels on the HDTV., drives me bananas.

I thought mine had to be nuts. Then again she thought I was nuts for caring.
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post #2145 of 3133
1/31/13 at 6:50pm
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

I have reviewed this thread for the past 1hr+ and am still a bit lost as to how to rip BD to a hard drive. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could help guide me or can anyone help get me started?
I have a Denon 4311ci and Oppo BDP-93 Blu Ray player.
I am looking to rip some of my blu-ray movies as well as regular music CD's I own to an external hard drive hooked up to the Oppo for playback.
What Program is best for this task? I would prefer starting with FREE software and Clown BD seems to be the choice of most..the problem I am having is that you also need to use other programs in conjuctions with this and I do not which ones and how?
Also, my thought is to buy a 3TB external drive and just plug it in via USB to the Oppo, is this a good solution?
Thanks....

You read the first posts of my thread and the earlier Ripping Blu-Ray I thread and don't know where to start?

Do you have a home network?
What type of computer do you have?
Have you ever ripped a DVD or a BD to your computer?


I don't think you can get free software to decode the BDs before they are ripped. Maybe somebody here knows of some freeware that decodes it. I use AnyDVDHD and as far as I can tell, they are still selling lifetime updates (at least the website has the option). That's what I use. Once installed you can right click and rip it to your hard drive. Then transfer it to your storage device and have your player access it. That's the very, very basic level "how to." Once you master that, you should start looking at Clown_BD. But again...Clown doesn't decrypt/decode the BD.

Of course, there is this: http://www.avsforum.com/a/avs-guide-to-media-servers-part-1

I didn't find that article particularly helpful unless you were going to spend ridiculous amounts of money. I think a Kaleidescape system is over $20K. You can build your own server with 16TB for less than $1,500 depending on what you decided to use.
Edited by agogley - 1/31/13 at 7:00pm
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post #2146 of 3133
2/1/13 at 3:46am
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Since they offer a free trial I suggest getting your feet wet with: http://www.dvdfab.com/tutorial

In any event you WILL need to BUY software to remove the encryption. You could buy AnyDVDHD or DVDFab.

If you rip the full disc understand that newer BD players will have Cinevia built in and if the movie has that on it the ripped movie will not play longer then 45 seconds on your player (if you are looking to rip the full disc bit for bit).

You don't need to buy DVDFab, you can just use the HD Decrypter tool to rip to your hard drive and that part of the program is free...been using it for a couple of years now. If you want any of the other bells and whistles then you will need to buy.
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post #2147 of 3133
2/1/13 at 6:26am
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Originally Posted by djc11369 View Post

You don't need to buy DVDFab, you can just use the HD Decrypter tool to rip to your hard drive and that part of the program is free...been using it for a couple of years now. If you want any of the other bells and whistles then you will need to buy.

That's true for just DVDs but HD Decryptor states it only does: "...part of Blu-ray protections" - not full.
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post #2148 of 3133
2/1/13 at 6:37am
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

That's true for just DVDs but HD Decryptor states it only does: "...part of Blu-ray protections" - not full.

Yeah, I thnk the free version doesn't get updated as frequently, so it may take a while for new protection schemes to get added
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post #2149 of 3133
2/1/13 at 8:06am
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

That's true for just DVDs but HD Decryptor states it only does: "...part of Blu-ray protections" - not full.
The free version of DVD Fab does full disk BD rips or single title BD rips. All protections are removed except Cinavia.
Where you are limited is that the free version is supposedly not updated on the same time scale as the pay version so the free version may not handle the newest copy protections for several months. I say "may" because I really haven't had any problems with the free BD version doing a full-disk rip of any current BD movies that I have tried. I then feed the full-disk rip to Clown_BD.

The statement about only "...part of Blu-ray protections" being removed, I have seen applied to their free Passkey version (AnyDVD clone).
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post #2150 of 3133
2/1/13 at 9:04am
I've had issues with star trek,dark knight rises and lotr the two towers. Not sure what the problem was but looks like make mkv is worth the money over the others.
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post #2151 of 3133
2/1/13 at 9:12am
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Originally Posted by fido2 View Post

I've had issues with star trek,dark knight rises and lotr the two towers. Not sure what the problem was but looks like make mkv is worth the money over the others.
I've ripped all those BD titles with the free DVD Fab.
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post #2152 of 3133
2/1/13 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

The free version of DVD Fab does full disk BD rips or single title BD rips. All protections are removed except Cinavia.
Where you are limited is that the free version is supposedly not updated on the same time scale as the pay version so the free version may not handle the newest copy protections for several months. I say "may" because I really haven't had any problems with the free BD version doing a full-disk rip of any current BD movies that I have tried. I then feed the full-disk rip to Clown_BD.

The statement about only "...part of Blu-ray protections" being removed, I have seen applied to their free Passkey version (AnyDVD clone).

Exactly, I've been ripping BD's for the past two years so far without issues and I rarely update the program. When I encounter a title that it does have an issue with, which is rare, I install a newer version and it's typically taken care of. For a very new release with issues I've only had to wait a week or so for them to update the program...maybe they fix it sooner but that's about when I try again. I only rip the main movie which DVDFab is great at doing. I leave any secondary operations such as putting into ISO or conversion to other programs.
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post #2153 of 3133
2/1/13 at 2:37pm
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

I've ripped all those BD titles with the free DVD Fab.

Would there be any type of hardware issue that could cause these problems?
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post #2154 of 3133
2/1/13 at 3:16pm
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Originally Posted by fido2 View Post

Would there be any type of hardware issue that could cause these problems?
Actually, yes. For whatever reason, certain BD will not rip on certain BD drives. I have three BD drives. My LG is my primary drive and rips just about everything but every so often I come across a BD that it can't and so I put it in the Lite-On and it rips fine. Same goes for the Lite-On which actually has a higher frequency of no-rips than the LG which is why the LG is my primary drive.
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post #2155 of 3133
2/2/13 at 5:36am
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

I have reviewed this thread for the past 1hr+ and am still a bit lost as to how to rip BD to a hard drive. Is there a tutorial somewhere that could help guide me or can anyone help get me started?
I have a Denon 4311ci and Oppo BDP-93 Blu Ray player.
I am looking to rip some of my blu-ray movies as well as regular music CD's I own to an external hard drive hooked up to the Oppo for playback.
What Program is best for this task? I would prefer starting with FREE software and Clown BD seems to be the choice of most..the problem I am having is that you also need to use other programs in conjuctions with this and I do not which ones and how?
Also, my thought is to buy a 3TB external drive and just plug it in via USB to the Oppo, is this a good solution?
Thanks....

buy makemkv.... make your life easy. oppo players play mkvs.

btw makemkv is also available in free trial.
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post #2156 of 3133
2/2/13 at 5:44am
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Originally Posted by fschris View Post

buy makemkv.... make your life easy. oppo players play mkvs.

btw makemkv is also available in free trial.

You don't even need to buy MakeMKV at this point, it's free while it's still in beta. The program obviously needs some work in the forced subtitle area as well.
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post #2157 of 3133
2/2/13 at 6:09am
Or once again, the easiset of all - right click AnyDvd HD -> hard disk = done
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post #2158 of 3133
2/2/13 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Or once again, the easiset of all - right click AnyDvd HD -> hard disk = done

Maybe. It's been awhile since I tried AnyDVD HD but if I remember correctly to rip movie only you had to determine which was the correct stream. DVDFab has a nice Main Movie button to select and requires no guessing/research...and it's free. Key word there biggrin.gif.

I think easiest depends on what you want to do.
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post #2159 of 3133
2/2/13 at 6:47am
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Originally Posted by djc11369 View Post


I think easiest depends on what you want to do.

AnyDvd HD can also be set to select only what you want. So I think your standard definition of "easiest" still applies. Minimum steps, no other programs to use and maintain, not disk space challenged, etc.

As for cost many of us are grandfathered into the lifetime deal offered up until a few years ago. I don't even know what the cost is now but if the goal is "easiest" you pay it. If the goal is less cost you jump through more hoops.
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post #2160 of 3133
2/2/13 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

Minimum steps, no other programs to use and maintain, not disk space challenged, etc.

AnyDVD can't put it into an ISO or MKV container all on it's own can it? If your just ripping to folder then that's likely true. It's been awhile since I used it so maybe it can. Just checked, ~$130 for lifetime updates at this time. They must have brought back lifetime at some point, pretty sure it was eliminated at one time. I think for the movie a month I do, if that sometimes, i can make three or four more mouse clicks.
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