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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

I pretty much leave mine on 24/7. I could be wrong, but I have seen some people comment that turning on/off actually puts more wear on a drive then leaving running.

However, the main reason why I leave on is simply out of convenience, since my server may be used at any point throughout the day by family members. If I knew that possibly the only time I would use would be let's say on the weekend I would probably leave off during the week.

Thanks, I've heard the "more wear and tear by starting and stopping" line as well. I accept it, but don't know how to weight it in the decision to start/stop or keep on.

How about temperatures where your server is located? Mine is an unheated basement that can go to 55 degrees. Keeping it running would raise that temp a bit, but also keep the server more stable wrt temperature.

Jeff
post #2222 of 5723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Sorry to be OT, but I think the folks here may have comments. Does anybody turn their server off between uses? I should qualify that and say that my home theater usage is only once a week, maybe two times. And then some times it is two weeks between uses. My concerns are power usage as well as wear on the drives.

My server remains off unless I am going to use it. I used to have it on 24 / 7, but not anymore. I showed my wife how to turn it on and off.
post #2223 of 5723
Is your server "headless?"
post #2224 of 5723
IDK but SSD drives don't really wear out. I keep mine on for convenience as well.
post #2225 of 5723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Thanks, I've heard the "more wear and tear by starting and stopping" line as well. I accept it, but don't know how to weight it in the decision to start/stop or keep on.

How about temperatures where your server is located? Mine is an unheated basement that can go to 55 degrees. Keeping it running would raise that temp a bit, but also keep the server more stable wrt temperature.

Jeff

I keep my server in my office (which is on the main floor in my house). In the summertime it can definitely get a little bit warm
post #2226 of 5723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Thanks, I've heard the "more wear and tear by starting and stopping" line as well. I accept it, but don't know how to weight it in the decision to start/stop or keep on.
Mine stays on 24x7 also because it does multiple things.
I have my doubts about the whole "starting/stopping puts more wear on the drives" thing. There are plenty of drives that do the green thing and spin down after a period of non-use. I have WD externals that spin down after only 10 min, which is a pain because I have to constantly wait for them to spin up when I access them. PC's all have power saving modes that will spin down the drives after a time, and on top of that most people turn off their PC's when they are not using them.

So I have a hard time believing that power cycling of modern HDD's has a negative impact.
post #2227 of 5723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Is your server "headless?"

Yes, my server is wifeless....I mean headless!biggrin.gif
post #2228 of 5723
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Mine stays on 24x7 also because it does multiple things.
I have my doubts about the whole "starting/stopping puts more wear on the drives" thing. There are plenty of drives that do the green thing and spin down after a period of non-use. I have WD externals that spin down after only 10 min, which is a pain because I have to constantly wait for them to spin up when I access them. PC's all have power saving modes that will spin down the drives after a time, and on top of that most people turn off their PC's when they are not using them.

So I have a hard time believing that power cycling of modern HDD's has a negative impact.

Interesting, I had forgotten that they can be spun down. Good point!!
post #2229 of 5723
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Yes, my server is wifeless....I mean headless!biggrin.gif

I would like to be able to boot it without going to the basement. Anybody know of a remote way to boot a server that is powered down ... you know, for ripping Blu-rays? wink.gif

Jeff
post #2230 of 5723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I would like to be able to boot it without going to the basement. Anybody know of a remote way to boot a server that is powered down ... you know, for ripping Blu-rays? wink.gif

Jeff

Are we talking about your server or your wife?
post #2231 of 5723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

I would like to be able to boot it without going to the basement. Anybody know of a remote way to boot a server that is powered down ... you know, for ripping Blu-rays? wink.gif

Jeff

Wake-on-LAN
post #2232 of 5723
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

My server remains off unless I am going to use it. I used to have it on 24 / 7, but not anymore. I showed my wife how to turn it on and off.

I helped a guy set up his Dune so it could power on & off his server by clicking on links on the Dune interface. Conceivably, with some more Linux hacking, it could be completely automated.
post #2233 of 5723
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Sorry to be OT, but I think the folks here may have comments. Does anybody turn their server off between uses? I should qualify that and say that my home theater usage is only once a week, maybe two times. And then some times it is two weeks between uses. My concerns are power usage as well as wear on the drives.

I only turn on my two unRAIDs and my WHS when I need them. Which is usually the evening. Electricity rates are so much higher now plus I'm not home during the day. That save me a lot in power usage. In the late 90s and early 2000s I had several machines running 24/7, but electricity rates were so low back then.
All my servers are headless so its just a matter of hitting the power button on my unRAID setups and my WHS I turn on remotely. Plus I have several other NAS devices that hold music, tv recordings, pictures etc. That I also turn on as needed.
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Originally Posted by ScottJ View Post

Wake-on-LAN

There are several WOL utilities out there for booting up the server remotely. For me, I keep my unRaid in sleep mode until I'm ready to watch a movie or copy files to it. There's lot of info on the unRaid forums about S3 and how to set up your server to go to sleep automatically when not in use.

The trick with unRaid is WOL. Most motherboards accept the packet. I use a iOS app on my phone to send the WOL packet. There are numerous free apps to do this.

At one point I looked into having my PCH send the WOL when it boots up, but I lost interest once I found out I can wake up my server from my phone or tablet.
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Originally Posted by ejhuzy View Post

There are several WOL utilities out there for booting up the server remotely. For me, I keep my unRaid in sleep mode until I'm ready to watch a movie or copy files to it. There's lot of info on the unRaid forums about S3 and how to set up your server to go to sleep automatically when not in use.

The trick with unRaid is WOL. Most motherboards accept the packet. I use a iOS app on my phone to send the WOL packet. There are numerous free apps to do this.

At one point I looked into having my PCH send the WOL when it boots up, but I lost interest once I found out I can wake up my server from my phone or tablet.

I had tried the WOL before and it worked fine, but I found that anytime I had a media player that scanned my network shares it would wake that server from sleep. Or if I accidentally selected a title from a sleeping machine it would wake up. Which I didn't want since I mainly use one unRAID now and my WHS that is using 52TB out of 56TB available, I only turn on when i want to access the movies I have stored on there. And I have 31 drives attached/in my WHS and 22 in/attached to my main unRAID. So I prefer to leave the systems on for a while if I turn them on rather than being turned on and off in periodic spurts.
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

I had tried the WOL before and it worked fine, but I found that anytime I had a media player that scanned my network shares it would wake that server from sleep. Or if I accidentally selected a title from a sleeping machine it would wake up. Which I didn't want since I mainly use one unRAID now and my WHS that is using 52TB out of 56TB available, I only turn on when i want to access the movies I have stored on there. And I have 31 drives attached/in my WHS and 22 in/attached to my main unRAID. So I prefer to leave the systems on for a while if I turn them on rather than being turned on and off in periodic spurts.

That sounds like you have a more advanced NIC that supports a different form of WOL. I wanted my unRaid to work the way you describe, but couldn't get it to because my NIC didn't support that protocol. In your case, I don't think the media players were sending WOL magic packets, I think they were just trying to access the server. You can configure your NIC to not allow that type of wake up.

Look at this link in the unRaid wiki. I bet your NIC's "Wake on:" setting is not just "g".

At least that's how I remember all this when I was reading up on it.
post #2237 of 5723
I use the web GUI/unMenu to access the boot / turn on /off the server via PC, iPhone or iPad.
post #2238 of 5723
Makemkv issues recently. Not sure if it is the br drive, hard drive but my last 5 BR rips have issues like the following throughout the movie.





Some of the pixelation is smaller but it can happen throughout the movie.

I can test ripping to my NAS vs the 1tb drive i have in my Main PC but other than that not sure. Any other ideas?

It is the main file rip as I copy it to the server and verify I see the issues on both files (main pc & nas).
Edited by cburbs - 2/23/13 at 7:45pm
post #2239 of 5723
Was this after the update to makemkv version 1.8.0?
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Actually it did it with v1.7.10 and I updated to 1.80 today and it did it with the new rip.
post #2241 of 5723
I bet the drive you've ripped it to is failing. I put a good rip on a bad drive and it did the same thing until I replaced it.

Bill
Edited by mrfattbill - 2/23/13 at 9:25pm
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I went back to 1.7.9 and will do some testing. Could be the drive but I hope not as it isn't that old - bought 8/27/2012.

Well going back a version didn't fix it.

Last option is ripping it do a different hard drive but I don't think that is it either. Looks like a drive issue which stinks as this would be my 3rd drive. 1st drive just died on me.

Current one is LITE-ON Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo Model ihes112-04 - OEM .

Suggestions on a replacement drive then....
Edited by cburbs - 2/24/13 at 9:55am
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Cburbs, did you ever sort out your issue?

Bill
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Originally Posted by mrfattbill View Post

Cburbs, did you ever sort out your issue?

Bill

I believe it is the drive. Like I mentioned interesting how my old NEC drive still works after 6+ years but my BR dies after 6 months of use wtf.
post #2245 of 5723
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Originally Posted by cburbs View Post

I went back to 1.7.9 and will do some testing. Could be the drive but I hope not as it isn't that old - bought 8/27/2012.

Well going back a version didn't fix it.

Last option is ripping it do a different hard drive but I don't think that is it either. Looks like a drive issue which stinks as this would be my 3rd drive. 1st drive just died on me.

Current one is LITE-ON Black 12X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA Internal Internal 12X Blu-ray Combo Model ihes112-04 - OEM .

Suggestions on a replacement drive then....

Try an LG drive. My LG BD burner is my best drive. It's unlocked and reads my BDs the fastest of all my drives. It's several years old and still chugging along. It does the best job reading more discs without issues than my Lite-ON drives and my Samsung drives.
Although every BD drive i've owned has always run into some discs it would not read. Which is why I use several brands. I've always been able to get at least one brand of drive to read a problem disc.
post #2246 of 5723
Yup, multiple brands of drives, even different models within the same brand is the way to go. You could test the BR drive, load the disc and find the movie M2TS file and play back the section that is giving you problems and see if the issue is still there. I still think the hard drive is at fault which is what I was referring to when I said drive previously. smile.gif

Bill
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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

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Originally Posted by Gary J View Post

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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

Breaking Dawn Part 2 Redbox Rental

Correct Playlist

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- Chapters, 18 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48kHz
- AC3, Spanish, multi-channel, 48kHz

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