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Originally Posted by olyteddy View Post

Boy you just seem to have the worse luck with QS. I recall your previous attempt resulted in longer encode times. Were you trying to use an AMD perhaps? And wasn't it you that suggested using the HandBrake beta builds? I've had nothing but good, clean and fast QS encodes using Mirillis and HandBrake. I use QS with Action! to do screen recordings and out of curiosity tried the HandBrake one just to see how fast it really was. 200+ FPS going from 1080p to 720p ain't too shabby. I am curious, however, regarding your assessment of PQ. Perhaps you can post a couple short clips or at least some stills so the rest of us can see what you're seeing. Meanwhile I'd suggest others try the QS encoders (at least the HandBrake or Mirillis ones - MediaEspresso and Aimersoft actually are pretty bad) and judge for themselves. What do you have to lose except up to 90% of your encode time...

PS: I'm still not a fan of transcoding and will likely continue buying more Hard Drive for a while. I mention QS only because it makes 1080p real time recording possible and also allows you to transcode for a tablet or to burn a DVD quickly.

I don't think it has anything to do with me. I have a very hard time finding someone that agree with you on hardware transcoding. If the PQ was acceptable then everyone would use it. There is a reason almost no one uses it. I don't recommend using Handbrake beta builds; I recommend using nightly builds. Big difference. It's irrelevant now that 0.9.9 is released. I'll redo a couple short clips and post them I have to wait until my current queue is finished though.
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Originally Posted by viclaw View Post

Well happy belated birthday, I noticed that this thread started 5/18/11.

Anyway, I’m ready to begin archiving and I wish to thank the enthusiasts who share their expertise and discoveries with us novices here. But before I begin I have a few questions relating to using the final products.

1 – Do I have to first commit to a hardware media player (Dune, WD, others) so I can rip to a correct format or is there a “universal” file format (iso)?

2 – Do you file DVD’s rips in a separate subdirectory from Blu-ray’s or does a jukebox program manage all files in one move subdirectory?

3 – Is there a tablet (Sony and Samsung have IR blasters) and software(s) solution that will both remote control equipment and push content from a NAS to the media player? I can’t find a thread on AVS or other forums for this (am I too early for this party?).

I played with the Sony tablet and it appears that the remote control application can accommodate other manufactures (can’t tell how extensive the data base is or if it can be trained). They are Android devices and I don’t know what jukebox software is ported to the OS that works with BR rips.

I know this is off topic but I would appreciate any direction to a thread or what you’re using for control. My objective is a Meridian Audio like ( http://www.meridian-audio.com/en/collections/streaming) effect without spending the $$.

Thanks again

1. It depends. What type of hardware, compatibility, UI do you want?
2. It depends. This can be handled by Jukebox apps or on the server side. Depends on what software you're using and how you access your content. I'll say it's easier and cleaner to break movies and shows out into their own folders.
3. Not really sure what you're asking but probably yes.

So... with my setup I use Plex Media Server with Plex Home Theater on my Windows HTPC, Plex Client on my Rokus and Plex Client on my Android tablets and phones. iOS is supported too. Plex has a great guide for organizing files for their server application: http://wiki.plexapp.com/index.php/Media_Naming_and_Organization_Guide

With Plex and Roku I'm limited to using mp4 encoded with x264/AAC/AC3. That's a Roku limitation. I'm able to control my Rokus with any mobile device. There is a native Roku Remote app.
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1. The purpose of my question is though I don't have a large (by this thread's standards) library of movies I am not interested in modifying all the large files if I were to change hardware in the future. Maybe I’m overthinking this but the differences in work flows discussed here are, at times, attributed to hardware just as you stated for Roku. By scanning over the Plex link it looks to be very flexible in the file types it can manage and what OS it resides with. So I’m assuming that your preferred file type is based on the devices you use.

2. No problem with movie folders, just wondering if there is an advantage to segregating DVD and Blu-ray folders in separate directories. Plex’s guide to naming files is very useful, thanks I didn’t even think about this, when ripping CD’s naming has not been an issue.

3. You just may have answered this. Looks like Plex may be the answer to control the files from the NAS (Plex has a Synology app) to the media player. Till now I have been looking at J River Remote.

You reply is very helpful, thanks.
post #3063 of 5693
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Originally Posted by viclaw View Post

1. The purpose of my question is though I don't have a large (by this thread's standards) library of movies I am not interested in modifying all the large files if I were to change hardware in the future. Maybe I’m overthinking this but the differences in work flows discussed here are, at times, attributed to hardware just as you stated for Roku. By scanning over the Plex link it looks to be very flexible in the file types it can manage and what OS it resides with. So I’m assuming that your preferred file type is based on the devices you use.

2. No problem with movie folders, just wondering if there is an advantage to segregating DVD and Blu-ray folders in separate directories. Plex’s guide to naming files is very useful, thanks I didn’t even think about this, when ripping CD’s naming has not been an issue.

3. You just may have answered this. Looks like Plex may be the answer to control the files from the NAS (Plex has a Synology app) to the media player. Till now I have been looking at J River Remote.

You reply is very helpful, thanks.

No problem. Plex is a great solution but it certainly doesn't work for everyone. Luckily it's free so no harm in trying it out. Their forums are very helpful as well. Yeah essentially Plex will handle most file types and common codecs but as you said.... limited to the playback functionality/compatibility of the hardware/OS where the client lives. Plex will transcode is the server hardware supports it so even if the client doesn't support playback of the file type or codec Plex will convert it to something that is playable. Picture quality loss is expected during the transcoding process though.

With the Synology and other NAS based server applications they work great direct streaming (no transcoding) but you need to get an x86 based NAS in order to support transcoding. Not sure when then new line of Synology devices are supposed to come out but they DS714 has a Intel Atom CE5315 SoC that is designed specifically for transcoding over http. If reviews are good I may ditch my always on media server for this device.... this might be getting a bit off topic though.
post #3064 of 5693
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Originally Posted by viclaw View Post

Well happy belated birthday, I noticed that this thread started 5/18/11.

Anyway, I’m ready to begin archiving and I wish to thank the enthusiasts who share their expertise and discoveries with us novices here. But before I begin I have a few questions relating to using the final products.

1 – Do I have to first commit to a hardware media player (Dune, WD, others) so I can rip to a correct format or is there a “universal” file format (iso)?
If you have the space, rip as an ISO or in Folder format. This preserves the original structure/content and most players can work with either format. The downside is you need lots of storage. If you don't have the space, compressing and encoding into an MKV seems to be the most "universal" although there really isn't a universal format. MakeMKV seems to be the most widely used tool for this.
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2 – Do you file DVD’s rips in a separate subdirectory from Blu-ray’s or does a jukebox program manage all files in one move subdirectory?
Most players can handle all in one folder, or if you'd like, a folder for BDs and one for DVDs. Jukeboxes usually combine into one list no matter how they're organized on the backend.
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3 – Is there a tablet (Sony and Samsung have IR blasters) and software(s) solution that will both remote control equipment and push content from a NAS to the media player? I can’t find a thread on AVS or other forums for this (am I too early for this party?).
The tablet does none of the work here. The media player has to be able to connect to your NAS to play the file. Some media players have internal hard drives so you can load files locally. If you already have a NAS or don't move the player around often, I don't see the advantage of an internal drive. Regardless, the remote control just tells the media player what to do and which file to start playing.
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I played with the Sony tablet and it appears that the remote control application can accommodate other manufactures (can’t tell how extensive the data base is or if it can be trained). They are Android devices and I don’t know what jukebox software is ported to the OS that works with BR rips.

I know this is off topic but I would appreciate any direction to a thread or what you’re using for control. My objective is a Meridian Audio like ( http://www.meridian-audio.com/en/collections/streaming) effect without spending the $$.

Thanks again
You might also want to check out some of the player threads. The popular ones are Dune, Mede8er and Popcorn Hour.
post #3065 of 5693
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Originally Posted by rexdragon View Post

Inexplicable error with mkv file

Greetings y'all, kinda hoping someone here with experience using mkv rips will have insight into an odd problem I'm having now. I currently have a collection of approx 200+ bluray mkv rips stored in an external usb harddrive connected to my main media player (oppo 103). Up until yesterday, I've had zero problems playing my mkvs via the oppo. Now there is one specific mkv (Star Wars) thats having problems playing (e.g. lockups/freezes), and it always freezes at the same place in the movie (at 00:02:06 time). If I attempt to skip chapters before it reaches the 2:06 mark, the file will play but freeze a couple minutes later. When the movie does freeze, the entire player locks up---no response with the remote or buttons on device itself; only recourse would be to unplug the power cord and power back up the player. The same will occur if I played the file via my other media player (sony bdp-s780). The actual Star Wars mkv I ripped back in February using MakeMKV to decrypt and Handbrake to re-encode/compress the file down to size (33 Gb to 9 Gb) and at that time the file played flawlessly both via the oppo and on my computer (windows 7) via VLC player. One odd thing to note---the file currently plays fine via VLC player in my windows 7 pc.

Does anyone know what is happening with my Star Wars mkv? I've sample tested several of my other mkvs and they've not exhibited the same problem.

Sorry for the delay in response - I'm new to this forum.

The OPPO BDP-103 has a number of issues with user generated MKV files. For example, some DVD rips transcoded with the "normal" Handbrake profile will freeze (video only) for a small fraction of a second approximately every 1.5 seconds. MKV's freezing a specific points in the file is rare but has been reported before. This is OPPO BDP-103/105 specific and, like you, I don't have any problem playing any of my MKV's on other players (ROKU, LG blu ray player, VLC, etc.)

I personally have had no issues with Blu Ray rips using MakeMKV/Handbrake, but then my Blu Ray collection isn't that huge.

I recommend you contact OPPO support with the specific details of your issue and let them add this to their engineering queue.
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

From 8-bit content?

Jeff

Yep, but not for the obvious reason of color representation as you cannot make an 8 bit source into 10 bit. The reason for going 10 bit is encoding efficiency which also helps with transients along with higher compression.

This explains it more thoroughly than I care to smile.gif
post #3067 of 5693
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post

Sorry for the delay in response - I'm new to this forum.

The OPPO BDP-103 has a number of issues with user generated MKV files. For example, some DVD rips transcoded with the "normal" Handbrake profile will freeze (video only) for a small fraction of a second approximately every 1.5 seconds. MKV's freezing a specific points in the file is rare but has been reported before. This is OPPO BDP-103/105 specific and, like you, I don't have any problem playing any of my MKV's on other players (ROKU, LG blu ray player, VLC, etc.)

I personally have had no issues with Blu Ray rips using MakeMKV/Handbrake, but then my Blu Ray collection isn't that huge.

I recommend you contact OPPO support with the specific details of your issue and let them add this to their engineering queue.

Is this OPPO player a dxva only device? If yes, then that is the most likely cause. There isn't a universal dxva parameter. You need to know what your device is capable of handling. For instance, though not dxva related, I think it is the ps3 that has a 2gb limit per file.
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Originally Posted by videoluvr View Post

The OPPO BDP-103 has a number of issues with user generated MKV files. For example, some DVD rips transcoded with the "normal" Handbrake profile will freeze (video only) for a small fraction of a second approximately every 1.5 seconds. MKV's freezing a specific points in the file is rare but has been reported before. This is OPPO BDP-103/105 specific and, like you, I don't have any problem playing any of my MKV's on other players (ROKU, LG blu ray player, VLC, etc.).

I suspected the problem may lie with the oppo---I had just upgraded the firmware a week before the problem started happening. I surmised that if the oppo's firmware upgrade was at fault, then the mkv file itself needed to be "upgraded" as well or so to speak. Currently, I had the latest versions of MakeMKV and Handbrake already so I decided to remux the problem mkv with the latest version of mkvmerge (have not upgraded it since version 5.7.0). And VOILA! whaddayaknow...the newly remuxed mkv (Star Wars) now plays (via the oppo) flawlessly from beginning to end with no hiccups or freezes. THanks again for responding to my inquiry.
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Originally Posted by DotJun View Post

Yep, but not for the obvious reason of color representation as you cannot make an 8 bit source into 10 bit. The reason for going 10 bit is encoding efficiency which also helps with transients along with higher compression.

This explains it more thoroughly than I care to smile.gif

Thanks. There was nothing in the first post and, since I have less than zero interest in re-encoding, I will take you word that it accomplishes your goal. smile.gif

Jeff
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To "upgrade" Clown BD package I just overwrite existing files, or delete old files and start fresh?

Jeff
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

To "upgrade" Clown BD package I just overwrite existing files, or delete old files and start fresh?

Jeff

I just updated to 0.81 and pretty much what I did. Works fine (already tested on one movie)
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

I just updated to 0.81 and pretty much what I did. Works fine (already tested on one movie)
Any reason to do the upgrade? Anything significant added or fixed?
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Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

Any reason to do the upgrade? Anything significant added or fixed?


Here is the changelog:
Code:
v0.81 (2013-05-31) Eighty First Release
. Update Java version & download link
. Update eac3to version number
. Suggest correct playlist on Sony ScreenPass (AnyDVD's disc.inf needs to exist)
. Windows 8 does not correct FreeConsole, don't care about this now (before I errored)
post #3074 of 5693
Sometime last year my father asked me to rip all of our DVDs and Blu-Rays. I explored many different methods to increase my productivity, I eventually chose MakeMKV. Although the MakeMKV GUI is simple it is not quite fast enough for my needs. A few months ago I began developing a simple console program to make ripping movies to MKV easy.

MakeMKV Helper 0.6.5 BETA Features:
- Streamlined Blu-Ray and DVD Ripping to MKV
- ISO Ripping
- Multiple drives

Constructive criticism is highly appreciated.
http://sourceforge.net/p/makemkvhelper/
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Originally Posted by Macdaddy4sure View Post

Sometime last year my father asked me to rip all of our DVDs and Blu-Rays. I explored many different methods to increase my productivity, I eventually chose MakeMKV. Although the MakeMKV GUI is simple it is not quite fast enough for my needs. A few months ago I began developing a simple console program to make ripping movies to MKV easy.

MakeMKV Helper 0.6.5 BETA Features:
- Streamlined Blu-Ray and DVD Ripping to MKV
- ISO Ripping
- Multiple drives

Constructive criticism is highly appreciated.
http://sourceforge.net/p/makemkvhelper/

This was the main reason I initially started ripping my BDs with my WHS. WIth the My Movies Add in and AnyDVD HD, I could automatically rip up to five titles concurrently. All I needed to do was stick the disc in and the WHS did all the rest. When it was finished the disc was ejected and I had folders with the names of the title along with the ISO, cover art, fanart, etc.
But once I had finished ripping the titles I had at the time I didn't need to have the ripping process automated any more. So now I just do it from my main pC and rip to my unRAID servers. Since I'm not doing alot at a time like I was in the beginning
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Originally Posted by Macdaddy4sure View Post

Sometime last year my father asked me to rip all of our DVDs and Blu-Rays. I explored many different methods to increase my productivity, I eventually chose MakeMKV. Although the MakeMKV GUI is simple it is not quite fast enough for my needs. A few months ago I began developing a simple console program to make ripping movies to MKV easy.

MakeMKV Helper 0.6.5 BETA Features:
- Streamlined Blu-Ray and DVD Ripping to MKV
- ISO Ripping
- Multiple drives

Constructive criticism is highly appreciated.
http://sourceforge.net/p/makemkvhelper/

Tried to opened an account, and I got 404 - File or directory not found.
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Tried to opened an account, and I got 404 - File or directory not found.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/makemkvhelper/
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Please let me know if you find my program useful. If you need help, you may contact me on SourceForge or at Tyler@macdaddy4sure.com.
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Originally Posted by Macdaddy4sure View Post

Please let me know if you find my program useful. If you need help, you may contact me on SourceForge or at Tyler@macdaddy4sure.com.

Does it rip 3D BD to MKV or ISOs?

Does it rip the main movie from a BD or the full disc to MKV or ISO?
post #3080 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Wryker View Post

Does it rip 3D BD to MKV or ISOs?

Does it rip the main movie from a BD or the full disc to MKV or ISO?
Sorry for the late reply.
It rips the main movie from DVDs, BluRays, and ISOs to mkv.
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So I'm trying to rip the Fringe Season 1 Blu-ray and I'm running into a new authoring scheme I've never seen before. All 4 episodes are in 1 playlist but with 4 separate mts files. But there are a couple other playlists with parts of the episodes in them as well... they appear to be duplicates... has anyone ripped the Fringe S1 Blu-ray?
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Originally Posted by itznfb View Post

So I'm trying to rip the Fringe Season 1 Blu-ray and I'm running into a new authoring scheme I've never seen before. All 4 episodes are in 1 playlist but with 4 separate mts files. But there are a couple other playlists with parts of the episodes in them as well... they appear to be duplicates... has anyone ripped the Fringe S1 Blu-ray?
When loading the disc in MakeMKV does it look like this?
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Originally Posted by itznfb View Post

So I'm trying to rip the Fringe Season 1 Blu-ray and I'm running into a new authoring scheme I've never seen before. All 4 episodes are in 1 playlist but with 4 separate mts files. But there are a couple other playlists with parts of the episodes in them as well... they appear to be duplicates... has anyone ripped the Fringe S1 Blu-ray?
I've ran into that. Sometimes there are differences though like one file might be a little longer (extended/uncut), one file might be different resolution, one file might have pip commentaries. It is rare, but not unheard of, to have exact duplicates.
post #3084 of 5693
It looks like this (screenshot). The highlighted track with 32 chapters has 4 episodes within. Then the next two tracks have parts of the episodes... however I'm pretty sure the entire episode is actually within the first track as well. The only thing I can think of is to rip the entire track and split it up with something like mkvmerge or just copy the m2ts files from the disc and use those, remux them or re-encode them.

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Originally Posted by itznfb View Post

It looks like this (screenshot). The highlighted track with 32 chapters has 4 episodes within. Then the next two tracks have parts of the episodes... however I'm pretty sure the entire episode is actually within the first track as well. The only thing I can think of is to rip the entire track and split it up with something like mkvmerge or just copy the m2ts files from the disc and use those, remux them or re-encode them.

I would rip the files to my hard disc with AnyDVD then mux the m2ts files to mkv.
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Hi Guys

This is my original thread...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1476864/which-software-to-use-to-back-up-my-blu-rays#post_23417157

And I was directed to this thread interesting read ! (although I couldn't read everything)

If I use MKV to rip my Blu Rays, which program do you use to play the file. (Please note I havn't done any ripping yet)
Any does the MKV software automatically include the full surround sound file?(I mean original DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD)
Or does one have to specify this.

Sorry for all the questions, this is all new to me.

Thanks
Sprogk
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Originally Posted by sprogk View Post

Hi Guys

This is my original thread...
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1476864/which-software-to-use-to-back-up-my-blu-rays#post_23417157

And I was directed to this thread interesting read ! (although I couldn't read everything)

If I use MKV to rip my Blu Rays, which program do you use to play the file. (Please note I havn't done any ripping yet)
Any does the MKV software automatically include the full surround sound file?(I mean original DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD)
Or does one have to specify this.

Sorry for all the questions, this is all new to me.

Thanks
Sprogk

I like to use MPC HC for playback on my PC, play back with the full HD audio track
post #3088 of 5693
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Originally Posted by sprogk View Post

If I use MKV to rip my Blu Rays, which program do you use to play the file. (Please note I havn't done any ripping yet)
Any does the MKV software automatically include the full surround sound file?(I mean original DTS HD Master or Dolby True HD)
Or does one have to specify this.

It depends on the tools you use and the options you pick.

MKV is capable of holding either original uncompressed video or recompressed video and both original hidef or converted audio. Also various subtitle types and chapter stops.

I put links to assorted tools in one of the OPPO FAQS: What are the alternatives to .iso files?

My playback is always via a Blu-ray player. For testing on the PC and making stills from the video I use "vlc".

Check your hidef audio requirement if you are going to play back via a Blu-ray player or media server: they have not always supported all BR audio formats in the past, but are getting better.

-Bill
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Hi all:

Quick question about transferring, if you please.

So I usually rip 6 titles on my laptop while at work...figure about 150 gigs by the time it's all over. I of course then transfer them to my NASs when I get home. I'm just wondering why I don't see faster x-fer speeds. I realize there's a lot of factors, so let me start off by telling you what I have going on, equip-wise:

Laptop: 4 year old Sony VAIO with Intel Core 2 DUO P8400 @2.26Ghz Centrino 2 (4) GIGS of RAM

Network: All Cat 6 with an Gigabit Switch

NAS: Synology 412+

I WAS down to about 15MBps with my external 4TB Seagate Back Up Plus (via USB, no less). I'm now up to ~35-40MBps with the Synology. Still though, shouldn't I be quite a bit faster? Does moving all 5-6 files at once slow things down? I used to think so but I did a couple of trials and the results seemed pretty close, as I recall. Test after test with the Synology have yielded 100+ MBps write-speeds: http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-reviews/31909-synology-ds412-diskstation-reviewed?start=1 . I realize I may never see those with what I'm doing and/or my gear, but any tips to help improve, nonetheless?

thanks!

James
Edited by mastermaybe - 6/12/13 at 5:54am
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What OS on the laptop. When I had Win-XP SP-3 on my Media-PC I was getting ~25-35MBps transfers from my Win-7 Desktop. When I put Win-7 Pro on the Media-PC the transfer speed has jumped to a sustained 110MBps. Win-XP has a terrible TCPIP stack.
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