Originally Posted by itznfb
You're wrong on pretty much every thing you said. First off you're quoting my posts and DotJun's posts as if we are somehow the same person and some of your comments are way off base on that alone.
Second. Yes thousands. I would need 12-13 3TB HDDs to store 1000+ 1.5 hour 1080p videos. With selective compression (downscaling animated films and or dramas and heavier compression on films I don't care about quality) I can easily get those same videos on 2 or 3 3TB HDDs. So yes. Thousands.
10TB HDDs huh? That will never happen for two reasons. New magnetic recording technology isn't really being researched because companies know that SSD capacity and price/gb will surpass HDD in the next couple years and it took over 5 years to go from 1TB to 4TB and we've been stagnant ever since. We may see 10TB SSDs in the next 5 years but I doubt we'll see anything beyond 5TB HDDs.
3-4 a day? Not even close. Depending on settings and my available time I could get through 20 in a day. It only takes a little over an hour for one video and I can queue up as many as I feel like. Again, you're quoting two different people as if our experiences were the same.
98% of people here not compressing huh? I see the same 10-15 guys in every thread on multiple forums harping about not re-encoding. I would hardly call that 98%. As DotJun said I'm not trying to convince anyone to do anything different. From my perspective buying 15+ HDDs (including data protection) is a complete waste of money. $1000 is my gasoline for an entire year.
Do whatever works for you. I don't get why the non-re-encode guys get so angry about people re-encoding. Get over it.
I'm wrong on nothing of substance, sir. But nice try, sounds great, I suppose.
First, I simply combined both of your "proclamations", but here, I'll make it simple for you:
YOU: "I have 1000's of discs as well. In about 1.5 month's (not really keeping at it either) I'm already through over 1/2 my collection. Whenever it's rainy out or just really bored I'll start ripping a bunch of discs. When I fill up an extra 2TB HDD I have I queue them all up and re-encode them to an extra 640GB HDD. And it'll save me hundreds if not thousands of dollars of HDD costs in the long run."
Dot Jun: "Start it before bed. Wake up. Go to work. Most likely done before I even get home."
Pretty straightforward. Sorry if strewing the two together was confusing...mistake on my part.
Ok. Let's start with basic arithmetic. (13) 3 TB drives for 1000 movies? 40 TBs? Nope.
Uncompressed 1080p rips (averaging longer than 90 minutes, btw) average 24.8 gigs, each (my ~300 are about 24.2 if that matters). That's 23 TBs. Or (6) 4 TB drives. We'll leave out the fact that less than a fraction of 1% of the population owns 1000+ movies...you apparently own thousands more than that, still. Ok.
Onward: "DEPENDING on the settings it takes a little more than an hour". Yep. Sure. I'd love to see the RESULTS of these "settings", never mind the rig transcoding 25-35 gig files in an hour. But STILL, at TWENTY a day you have 900. That's not half of thousands. After 45 days. Of non-stop transcoding. With "interesting" settings, I'm certain.
Ask 20 people on this board how long it takes THEM to transcode a ~30 gig film. Oh that's right, you'd be hard pressed to find ten, never mind twenty people on these boards do it for their entire collections (hundreds or thousands of files). Still, I'm 100% positive that the ones that do are going to relay MUCH longer times...but they're (DotJun included) prolly all doing it wrong.
Now, storage. Costs and expansion. I'm not going to sit here and waste mine and others time re-counting the history of DATA STORAGE over the last THIRTY YEARS...or ten for that matter. It's all on the web for you to learn for yourself. Bizarrely, you scoff at the notion that space has 'just" QUADRUPLED in the last 5 years form 1 to 4TBs. Huh? Where do you think we'll be 5 years from now, then? Then you make a grave mistake by assuming I'm speaking of trad HDDs..although I did make my own by typing "HDD" so I suppose that's on me...but you're a smart guy and almost certainly can look beyond that burp. Think: DATA STORAGE.
Regardless of the make-up of the drive vehicle, in 5 years time you won't be saving thousands on 50 TB's of storage. I can guarantee you that. Storage SIZE is dictated by NEED. Honestly: with the exception of those looking to store massive volumes of HD content what percentage of the populace- business and personal- even needs a single 4TB drive right now? 1-2%....and yes, I realize entities exists that require exponentially more. I work at a university with 15,000 students and 3,000 on staff and I'm shocked at what we're running. With 4k on the horizon I can assure you that HDDs and SSDs alike will be- again- expanding dramatically over the next half decade...while prices spiral downward. 5 and maybe 6 TBs HDDs by the end of the year, already. Mark it down.
Yes, 98% do not transcode...maybe a few more to throw stuff on an ipad like me on occasion. But we can set up a poll if you like. Again, the VAST majority are tickled pink to rip a disc in 20-40 minutes and store 35-40 movies on a single TB without touching another key...in full quality. 3 (4) TB drives puts 99% in awfully good shape. The redbox raiders? Again, maybe not.
The time and "effort" put into the whole deal? Incalculable, highly variable, and more than what the lion's share even want to visit. Let's just leave it at that.
Last..."angry"? Who's angry? Sounds like another straw man to me. Perhaps "miffed" is a better word. Especially at the rabid defense propped up by- literally- 2 or 3 people. Swing the hammer the other way, I can take it. I haven't even written off the whole idea in the first place...just isn't an issue for me.
JamesEdited by mastermaybe - 7/10/13 at 7:31am