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post #3901 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

I am wanting to rip my Dark Knight movies to a constant 2:35 aspect Ratio - basically looking to crop the IMAX screens - I have a CIH setup.
just wondering if anybody has done this and what software you have used. Thanks

I haven't tried it, but mkvmerge has a cropping parameter. You can specify different values for each edge.

I recall that HandBrake does, too, so it would be a matter of whether you want to recompress the video or not. (By default, Handbrake samples the stream to detect the black bars and crops them in the output, but you can override that. Obviously for a title with varying aspect ratio you'd want to check that autocropping feature carefully).

-Bill
post #3902 of 5693
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I haven't tried it, but mkvmerge has a cropping parameter. You can specify different values for each edge.

I recall that HandBrake does, too, so it would be a matter of whether you want to recompress the video or not. (By default, Handbrake samples the stream to detect the black bars and crops them in the output, but you can override that. Obviously for a title with varying aspect ratio you'd want to check that autocropping feature carefully).

-Bill

Thanks - googling Handbrake and Dark Knight came up with couple example on how to do this - will give them a shot
post #3903 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

Thanks - googling Handbrake and Dark Knight came up with couple example on how to do this - will give them a shot

Ok, that's what I use. But note: Handbrake has no pass-thru mode for video, so the results are always recompressed. If that is objectionable, look at mkvmerge instead.

-Bill
post #3904 of 5693
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

Thanks - googling Handbrake and Dark Knight came up with couple example on how to do this - will give them a shot

Ok, that's what I use. But note: Handbrake has no pass-thru mode for video, so the results are always recompressed. If that is objectionable, look at mkvmerge instead.

-Bill
I don't think any program will crop without re-encoding. You could also crop in the player. VLC and MP-HC are two I know can crop. That would be lossless.
post #3905 of 5693
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Originally Posted by olyteddy View Post

I don't think any program will crop without re-encoding. You could also crop in the player. VLC and MP-HC are two I know can crop. That would be lossless.

It's possible that is what mkvmerge is arranging with its cropping parameters. The video is actually the original version without modification, but the player is supposed to read the attributes and emit a cropped image. Whether standalone players actually do this, I do not know.

I've tested the mkv anamorphic dimensions on the OPPO, where the storage and display dimension have a different ratio and that works, but I have not experimented with the cropping params.

-Bill
post #3906 of 5693
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

It's possible that is what mkvmerge is arranging with its cropping parameters. The video is actually the original version without modification, but the player is supposed to read the attributes and emit a cropped image. Whether standalone players actually do this, I do not know.

I've tested the mkv anamorphic dimensions on the OPPO, where the storage and display dimension have a different ratio and that works, but I have not experimented with the cropping params.

-Bill

This is easy to test with the mkvmerge Header Editor function. Just open a test file and set the cropping values to whatever you want. Save and play the file.

VLC respects the cropping values but the OPPO seems to ignore them. I see other aspect ratio params but haven't had time to fiddle with them.

-Bill
post #3907 of 5693
Yea, I don't know what they were thinking when they mixed IMAX footage in with the 'Scope stuff. It's a real turn off in my theater. In fact, it was as well in the IMAX theater. Real boneheaded, IMO.
post #3908 of 5693
Gave the clownBD guide a quick read.. How do I know whether to choose TS or M2TS for the output file? That is possible answered somewhere in this thread... sorry if so..its very long. I went over the first page and then to researching clownbd guides.

And how do I know which subs ClownBD sees are forced if that is all I want?
post #3909 of 5693
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Gave the clownBD guide a quick read.. How do I know whether to choose TS or M2TS for the output file? That is possible answered somewhere in this thread... sorry if so..its very long. I went over the first page and then to researching clownbd guides.

And how do I know which subs ClownBD sees are forced if that is all I want?

Either is fine (ts takes up slightly less space)

The only way to tell if there are forced subs is to look at the temp output files Clown_BD generates (it will actually stared "_forced" in the sub file name)
post #3910 of 5693
OK thanks... and either is 1:1 identical to the source for video and audio quality?
post #3911 of 5693
The GTX Corsair 240GB SSD dropped to under $200 and I pulled the trigger on a few of them for my ripping/extracting/remuxing demon. I have a third GGW-H20L on the way as well.

Jeff
post #3912 of 5693
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

OK thanks... and either is 1:1 identical to the source for video and audio quality?

yes identical
post #3913 of 5693
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

The GTX Corsair 240GB SSD dropped to under $200 and I pulled the trigger on a few of them for my ripping/extracting/remuxing demon. I have a third GGW-H20L on the way as well.

Jeff

lol. You must have a lot of discs to rip. I still use my GGW-H20L for ripping. I love that drive.
post #3914 of 5693
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Originally Posted by itznfb View Post

lol. You must have a lot of discs to rip. I still use my GGW-H20L for ripping. I love that drive.

Around 400 BDs. When I am caught up I might sell two of them and put the Sony BD-RE and Lite-On DVD-RW drives back in. Just need a deal on WD20EARX Greens now ..

Jeff
post #3915 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post

Thanks - googling Handbrake and Dark Knight came up with couple example on how to do this - will give them a shot
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Originally Posted by wmcclain View Post

I haven't tried it, but mkvmerge has a cropping parameter. You can specify different values for each edge.

I recall that HandBrake does, too, so it would be a matter of whether you want to recompress the video or not. (By default, Handbrake samples the stream to detect the black bars and crops them in the output, but you can override that. Obviously for a title with varying aspect ratio you'd want to check that autocropping feature carefully).

-Bill


did this little project on the weekend and turned out great with Make MKV and Handbrake -
The Dark Knight required a few extra steps as Handbrake does not pass TrueHd - I extracted the TrueHD track with MKVToolnix and MKVextractgui2.
then added the track to my cropped version with mkvmerge.
Looked fantastic in full scope
post #3916 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GPBURNS View Post


did this little project on the weekend and turned out great with Make MKV and Handbrake -
The Dark Knight required a few extra steps as Handbrake does not pass TrueHd - I extracted the TrueHD track with MKVToolnix and MKVextractgui2.
then added the track to my cropped version with mkvmerge.
Looked fantastic in full scope
Can I ask you what handbrake parameters you set? Can just copy and paste the x264 command line.

Also you can tell handbrake to no process audio, extract the truehd with eac3to or tsmuxer and then mux with mkvmerge. Though, I thought I had found a way for handbrake to passthrough audio in the past.
post #3917 of 5693
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Either is fine (ts takes up slightly less space)

The only way to tell if there are forced subs is to look at the temp output files Clown_BD generates (it will actually stared "_forced" in the sub file name)

Damian,

I'm having an issue with forced subs and Clown. Breaking Bad Season 4 has forced subs, but Clown doesn't identify them as such. Here is the log:

Subtitle track 6 contains 370 normal and 79 forced captions.

However, Subtitles_6_English.sup is all I get. I didn't take only out the forced titles. How would you work a sub file like this with a Dune?

Thanks,

Alex
post #3918 of 5693
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Originally Posted by DotJun View Post

Can I ask you what handbrake parameters you set? Can just copy and paste the x264 command line.

Also you can tell handbrake to no process audio, extract the truehd with eac3to or tsmuxer and then mux with mkvmerge. Though, I thought I had found a way for handbrake to passthrough audio in the past.

Handbrake only handles DTS-HD passthrough.
post #3919 of 5693
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge View Post

Damian,

I'm having an issue with forced subs and Clown. Breaking Bad Season 4 has forced subs, but Clown doesn't identify them as such. Here is the log:

Subtitle track 6 contains 370 normal and 79 forced captions.

However, Subtitles_6_English.sup is all I get. I didn't take only out the forced titles. How would you work a sub file like this with a Dune?

Thanks,

Alex

I would use MKVMerge and make an MKV file and flag the forced subtitle track.
post #3920 of 5693
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge View Post

Damian,

I'm having an issue with forced subs and Clown. Breaking Bad Season 4 has forced subs, but Clown doesn't identify them as such. Here is the log:

Subtitle track 6 contains 370 normal and 79 forced captions.

However, Subtitles_6_English.sup is all I get. I didn't take only out the forced titles. How would you work a sub file like this with a Dune?

Thanks,

Alex

Odd that the forced subs weren't extracted. You can take Subtitles_6_English.sup and run it through BDSup2Sub, set it to extract forced subs only. This should hopefully give you just the forced sub track
post #3921 of 5693
Has anyone figured out which is the correct playlist for Now You See Me?
post #3922 of 5693
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Originally Posted by itznfb View Post

Handbrake only handles DTS-HD passthrough.
How odd. Do you know why?
post #3923 of 5693
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge View Post

Damian,

I'm having an issue with forced subs and Clown. Breaking Bad Season 4 has forced subs, but Clown doesn't identify them as such. Here is the log:

Subtitle track 6 contains 370 normal and 79 forced captions.

However, Subtitles_6_English.sup is all I get. I didn't take only out the forced titles. How would you work a sub file like this with a Dune?

Thanks,

Alex
I would use suprip and save forced only.
post #3924 of 5693
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Originally Posted by DotJun View Post

How odd. Do you know why?

Last I saw a developer on their forum said it was on the To Do List, but they have been busy working on other stuff
post #3925 of 5693
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Originally Posted by DotJun View Post

How odd. Do you know why?

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Originally Posted by DotJun View Post

I would use suprip and save forced only.

Yeah I would imagine it's not a high priority item for the majority of Handbrake users. Their primary base user is converting videos to one of the Apple profiles for use on their iDevice.
post #3926 of 5693
Maybe I am overthinking this, but it sounds quite complicated to get proper forced subs that you know are right. I was hoping to move from ISO so I could go straight to the movie from the file, but with all these extra steps it sounds like maybe I should just stick with what I know.

I take it that none of the software solutions mentioned offer a true set it and forget it mode? I.e., none of them can reliably pick 99% of the time which title of a movie would be the one you want and which subs to include if all you want is forced ?
post #3927 of 5693
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

Maybe I am overthinking this, but it sounds quite complicated to get proper forced subs that you know are right. I was hoping to move from ISO so I could go straight to the movie from the file, but with all these extra steps it sounds like maybe I should just stick with what I know.

The entire process with all it's quirks is rather complicated when you first get into. After you work through all the issues and get a good workflow it's pretty easy though.
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Originally Posted by hifiaudio2 View Post

I take it that none of the software solutions mentioned offer a true set it and forget it mode? I.e., none of them can reliably pick 99% of the time which title of a movie would be the one you want and which subs to include if all you want is forced ?

When you think about it a physical disc in a Blu-ray player doesn't offer this accuracy either. When there are 2 different versions of a movie on a disc (regular/extended) it will often just play one of them without user intervention. So you may end up watching the version you didn't want.
post #3928 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Has anyone figured out which is the correct playlist for Now You See Me?

838 for the extended version, 763 for theatrical.
post #3929 of 5693
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

838 for the extended version, 763 for theatrical.

Thanks.
post #3930 of 5693
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Thanks.

Always check the Slysoft forum and you will find most difficult titles' playlists there.
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