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post #4561 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by techflaws View Post

Not necessarily. With regular subtitles you don't need to change MakeMKV's default settings and when flagged properly during authoring, you even don't have to with forced subs.

MakeMKV's default settings are to have the first subtitle track default on. That's not what most people want if they are ripping the full subtitle track which a lot of people do. I've also seen a bunch of instances where MakeMKV just doesn't rip forced subs correctly out of the main track. I'll often see the CC descriptor and the subtitle instead of just the subtitle but only on some parts. As I said it's just easier to use eac3to and that way I know 100% everything is correct.
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Originally Posted by artur9 View Post

I have to say I thought the makemkv profiles were pretty straightforward, esp. in comparison to some of the device profiles for things like serviio. And it is nice to set up a profile then just pop a disk in and rip without having to do anything besides select the track.

I consider myself pretty tech savvy but if I can't figure something out in a few minutes I find it is probably not worth figuring out. MakeMKV profiles are one of those things.
post #4562 of 5693
LOL, you're right. Completely forgot, I've been using my own profile where I've set this to false. Still, if you turn off all subs, you don't have to worry about anything.
post #4563 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by techflaws View Post

LOL, you're right. Completely forgot, I've been using my own profile where I've set this to false. Still, if you turn off all subs, you don't have to worry about anything.

If there are no forced subs then I typically drop them all. For movies or TV shows that I watch often I'll keep the main track in case I want to watch without audio. I think a lot of people tend to keep the main sub track just in case they want it at some point so they don't need to re-rip.
post #4564 of 5693
dot.....

Worked sorta.

Following your steps to create a mkv that has the DolbyTrueHD and AC3 tracks as separate audio, making the AC3 the default, played fine on the AIOS and via VLC via laptop connected hdmi like an htpc. Did not play on the BDT500. Sorta played but stuttered like mad.

I compared files that had similar structure, 2 audio tracks-one HD-one AC3, that did play on the BDT500 to my newly created mkv's that did not.

Only noticeable difference was size. The files I just created following your steps, which made it very easy by the way, were rather large. Obviously no compression. Where the files that did play despite having 2 audio codecs were significantly smaller. DVDFab V8 made mkv's were quite smaller.

So this morning my experient was to make the initial mkv with DVDFab V8. With that MKV use hdbrstream, it is just a eac3to gui yes?, exported the DolbyTrueHD as an AC3 audio track and then MKVMerge to insert the ac3 back into the MKV as the default. It is simple and reads harder than it sounds.

THAT mkv plays perfectly across all my devices, includes both HD audio and AC3 audio, and does not stutter.

File size comparison:

Files I made last night: just over 30gb. Files starting with DVDFab made mkv: 11gb max for Transformers.

The Panasonic appears to be choking on the large file size. Could speculate it is a network bandwidth issue but the AIOS and the laptops are connected via same network to same NAS.
post #4565 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

File size comparison:

Files I made last night: just over 30gb. Files starting with DVDFab made mkv: 11gb max for Transformers.

The Panasonic appears to be choking on the large file size. Could speculate it is a network bandwidth issue but the AIOS and the laptops are connected via same network to same NAS.

The first Transformers movie? My M2TS for that is 40GB, lol. Not sure what you have going on there, lol.

Bill
post #4566 of 5693
Bill,

File size for those mkv's that work is much smaller. Could be just file size or whatever it is that is causing the file size to be smaller. If that makes any sense.

DVDFab V8 made Enchanted mkv that works across my platform is about 7gb. When I follow the hdvdvd stream splitting thing and than reassemble with MKVMerge Enchanted file size is around 30gb. 30gb file stutters. 7gb file does not.

For me the steps are.

DVDFab V8 to make the MKV and select the HD Audio track only.
On that mkv use the stream splitting GUI and pull out and convert an AC3 audio track.
Use MKVMerge and put that newly made AC3 audio track back into the mkv envelop and in doing so select the AC3 as the default audio, the HD Audio to "no" for default.

The resulting mkv has both AC3 and HD Audio, file size is small, plays back across my home theater network including the BDT500. The BDT500 plays the AC3. I can select the HD Audio when played back through the AIOS or via VLC and laptops acting as HTPC.

Why?

Someone will need to tell me what to look for in DVDFab's settings. It is compressing, obviously, where the eac3to process is not. Eac3to might be able to if I tell it to in the options.

But progress has been made!

Thanks to dot.....
post #4567 of 5693
Mediainfo both the working and stuttering Enchanted and post them here.

Bill
post #4568 of 5693
I'll have to remake one of the mkv's that stutters. Once testing reveals they don't work I delete them.

Edit: Will be Transformers. And what view from Mediainfo did you want to see Bill?
Edited by jsmiddleton4 - 12/13/13 at 11:43am
post #4569 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

THAT mkv plays perfectly across all my devices, includes both HD audio and AC3 audio, and does not stutter.

When you say that it includes both HD audio and AC3 I understand that the mkv has both audio tracks.
Which device do you use to play the HD audio? IIRC you said the Panny was playing the AC3?
post #4570 of 5693
Here is the Media text info from the mkv of Transformers that works equally well including the BDT500.

General
Unique ID : 254935919467161988772523364600750452556 (0xBFCADF43447862F59AAB32A00FCEAF4C)
Complete name : W:\Transformers\TRANSFORMERSTHDAC3.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 9.91 GiB
Duration : 2h 23mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 9 894 Kbps
Movie name : TRANSFORMERS_D1.Title0.BlurayRip
Encoded date : UTC 2013-12-13 19:30:11
Writing application : mkvmerge v6.6.0 ('The Edge Of The In Between') built on Dec 1 2013 17:55:00
Writing library : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 8 286 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 657 MiB (6%)
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 5 445 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No

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post #4571 of 5693
Here is Mediainfo text file from mkv of Transformers that does not work for the BDT500.

General
Unique ID : 197079698003089730980991557765065359770 (0x94442B4F7A7977FDB11B95EE7910419A)
Complete name : C:\Users\Jim Middleton\Desktop\Transformerseac3to.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 4 / Version 2
File size : 35.9 GiB
Duration : 2h 23mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 35.8 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2013-12-13 20:04:06
Writing application : mkvmerge v6.6.0 ('The Edge Of The In Between') built on Dec 1 2013 17:55:00
Writing library : libebml v1.3.0 + libmatroska v1.4.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 35.2 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 657 MiB (2%)
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 5 445 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : English
Default : No
Forced : No
post #4572 of 5693
first one was re-encoded

Bill
post #4573 of 5693
Art,

"Which device do you use to play the HD audio? IIRC you said the Panny was playing the AC3?"

PIVOS AIOS as well as laptop using VLC and connected to display via HDMI. Sorta like an HTPC.

For those two I have to pick the HD Audio, which is no big deal, because they both start out with the default audio, the AC3 track.
post #4574 of 5693
"That one was reencoded"

Sorry Bill but that doesn't mean a lot to me. Which one?

The file size is quite different.....

Both MKV's were made from a DVDFab Main Movie rip to my hard drive. Used same source for both MKV's.

For the smaller file sized file I used DVDFab V8 to make an mkv with just the TrueHD audio.
On that MKV I used hdbrstream.... and extracted the AC3 audio track.
I then used MKVMerge, put that AC3 back in to the mkv, made that audio the default. Made the "new" mkv.

For the larger file sized file I used hdbrstream.... and did the extraction on the main movie files. No MKV yet.
Once it extracted the video and TrueHD audio I then went back and extracted JUST the AC3 audio.
Now had the video, TrueHD and AC3 to assemble into an MKV.
Used MKVMerge and built MKV again setting AC3 as default audio.
,
The larger file plays fine except as noted on the BDT500.
Edited by jsmiddleton4 - 12/13/13 at 1:00pm
post #4575 of 5693
id guess the first one was done using dvd fab "converter" which compresses the bitrate down at the cost of quality.

Bill
post #4576 of 5693
This is the Mediainfo from the DVDFab V8 made MKV before I extract the AC3 audio.

General
Unique ID : 197591871634272273243953442181139025426 (0x94A6CF6B8C308D70A31A69DE65364E12)
Complete name : C:\Users\Jim Middleton\Desktop\TRANSFORMERS_D1.Title0.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 9.27 GiB
Duration : 2h 23mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 9 254 Kbps
Movie name : TRANSFORMERS_D1.Title0.BlurayRip
Encoded date : UTC 2013-12-13 18:10:03
Writing application : DVDFab
Writing library : libebml v0.7.8 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 8 286 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Default : Yes
Forced : No

Audio
ID : 2
Format : TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 5 445 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

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post #4577 of 5693
The library information changes for the MKV stuff because the final smaller MKV is made using MKVMerge using the latest MKV library.

I need to look at DVDFab V9 now and see what is happening.

Is there a compression option for EAC3TO?
post #4578 of 5693
I believe the reason the smaller file is playing is because the bit rate is being dropped so much lower, that is also at the cost of quality, whether you can notice it or not will be up to you, no different than using handbrake on the file.

Bill
post #4579 of 5693
Never noticed drop in quality even on my 65 inch display. Now if I had a 110 inch projection TV.......

I'm ripping an mkv right now in DVDFab V9.

The goal here is step by step. If hdbrstream.... can be used with an option to do the compression then as others have noted might as well use eac3to.

If I was only playing back via the BDT500 would just archive to AC3.

If the mkv stuttering issue I'm having with DVDFab V9 is its compression settings aren't as aggressive as V8, well that's an easy fix.

Also I can go back kinda full circle and look at the LPCM Multichannel thing again too.
post #4580 of 5693
DVDFab V9 made mkv. File size huge and they are using a very old library for the mkv stuff.

General
Unique ID : 219670679922528195903777289400393598627 (0xA54308B6A090F376B26232A6CBBF06A3)
Complete name : C:\Users\Jim Middleton\Desktop\TRANSFORMERS_V9.mkv
Format : Matroska
Format version : Version 2
File size : 35.2 GiB
Duration : 2h 23mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 35.2 Mbps
Movie name : TRANSFORMERS_V9
Encoded date : UTC 2013-12-13 21:05:57
Writing application : DVDFab
Writing library : libebml v0.7.8 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 35.2 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Default : Yes
Forced : No
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Audio
ID : 2
Format : TrueHD
Codec ID : A_TRUEHD
Duration : 2h 23mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Maximum bit rate : 5 445 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Compression mode : Lossless
Language : English
Default : Yes
Forced : No

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post #4581 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

Thanks Dot... working on it now.

Do I want thd+AC3? Doesn't that keep the two together? I need to separate them.

Is there a +option to split them apart and make separate audio tracks?

Or am I looking at doing the process twice? Which is fine. But do it once with thd and the second time with ac3 and then when reassemble select both audio tracks, make sure the AC3 is set to default?

Similar to what I did with txmuxer?

The BDT500 chokes when it sees the TrueHD in any way. I know, I know, but that is the hardware I'm working with.
It is ok that they are combined. Your player will choose which one it can play, not both at the same time.
post #4582 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelson View Post

It looks like Haali is a video (de)muxer. eac3to is primarily an audio tool that does some muxing
Haali -- here and here
eac3to -- here -- note at the bottom of the feature description is states you need Haali for video muxing.
That's why I didn't know. I've never muxed with eac3to.
post #4583 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by techmattr View Post

If there are no forced subs then I typically drop them all. For movies or TV shows that I watch often I'll keep the main track in case I want to watch without audio. I think a lot of people tend to keep the main sub track just in case they want it at some point so they don't need to re-rip.
You could always add it in later I suppose. Download the sub track then add it I mean. Faster than a rerip
post #4584 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

dot.....

Worked sorta.

Following your steps to create a mkv that has the DolbyTrueHD and AC3 tracks as separate audio, making the AC3 the default, played fine on the AIOS and via VLC via laptop connected hdmi like an htpc. Did not play on the BDT500. Sorta played but stuttered like mad.

I compared files that had similar structure, 2 audio tracks-one HD-one AC3, that did play on the BDT500 to my newly created mkv's that did not.

Only noticeable difference was size. The files I just created following your steps, which made it very easy by the way, were rather large. Obviously no compression. Where the files that did play despite having 2 audio codecs were significantly smaller. DVDFab V8 made mkv's were quite smaller.

So this morning my experient was to make the initial mkv with DVDFab V8. With that MKV use hdbrstream, it is just a eac3to gui yes?, exported the DolbyTrueHD as an AC3 audio track and then MKVMerge to insert the ac3 back into the MKV as the default. It is simple and reads harder than it sounds.

THAT mkv plays perfectly across all my devices, includes both HD audio and AC3 audio, and does not stutter.

File size comparison:

Files I made last night: just over 30gb. Files starting with DVDFab made mkv: 11gb max for Transformers.

The Panasonic appears to be choking on the large file size. Could speculate it is a network bandwidth issue but the AIOS and the laptops are connected via same network to same NAS.
Yea it's just a GUI for eac3to. I suggest it for people that don't like cli or having difficulties with it.

The audio files should not be any smaller using dvdfab. If it is the. You are not getting thd. It is actually compressing your thd to something else.

Can you try these three things?
Only ac3
Only thd
Combined thd and ac3 like I had suggested earlier.

I don't know why you ended up with two files, thd and ac3, if you followed my directions. You should have a single audio file that has both thd and ac3 in it.
post #4585 of 5693
Dot...

I don't want one combined file.

The BDT500 for network playback needs to see the AC3 as a separate audio track. When the audio is combined the BDT "sees" the DolbyTrueHD and says it can't play that audio track. There is no selection for audio through the BDT500 and network drive playback.

The audio files are not smaller. The video file being compressed is what is smaller and needs to be. The BDT500 is choking if the video is not compressed. How far compressed? I don't know yet.
post #4586 of 5693
If you're fine with compressed video and ac3 audio then why aren't you just using Handbrake?
post #4587 of 5693
Glad to look at Handbrake but I'm not "fine" with ac3. The goal has been the same since the beginning of my journey. Keep HD Audio in place for those devices in my home theater that can use it yet allow devices that can't, like the BDT500, to work with the same archived video file. For my main home theater with 7.1 fed through my Denon 3808 I want HD Audio if possible.

One archived video file on my NAS feeding all devices. HD Audio in main home theater, AC3 in back for second entertainment area that uses the BDT500.

Never said I was "fine" with AC3.

As for being fine with compressed video...

I'm "fine" with playback that works but at the same time does not demonstrate any degrading of the video. Will be able to play with the compression variable at some point so as to minimize it. Other variables to address first.

Going back to steps for LPCM multi-channel with Blackhawk Down at the moment.
post #4588 of 5693
Quote:
Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

Dot...

I don't want one combined file.

The BDT500 for network playback needs to see the AC3 as a separate audio track. When the audio is combined the BDT "sees" the DolbyTrueHD and says it can't play that audio track. There is no selection for audio through the BDT500 and network drive playback.

The audio files are not smaller. The video file being compressed is what is smaller and needs to be. The BDT500 is choking if the video is not compressed. How far compressed? I don't know yet.
Quick question, when trying the thd file are you bitstreaming?
post #4589 of 5693
I don't understand your question Dot....

I am able to use the DolbyTrueHD audio when playing back the NAS archived media file via my PIVOS AIOS or when using a laptop at an HTPC.

edit: My bad Dot...., was in middle of doing Black Hawk Down LPCM thing and I did not understand your question.

Yes, I am bitstreaming. Not for the BDT500 however. The BDT500 playback via network drive is quite limited. It does PCM no matter what when using network drive.
Edited by jsmiddleton4 - 12/13/13 at 4:24pm
post #4590 of 5693
Well adding LPCM to a MKV was way easier then the steps I followed before....

Used what Dot referred me to the hdbrstreamextractor.

Archived/ripped Black Hawk Down main movie to my hard drive.
Used DVDFab V8 and made mkv with just ac3 audio off the files on my hard drive.
Hdbrstreamextractor and pulled out the lpcm track from the main movie files. (Actually did FLAC and tried it first)
MKVMerge and combined the lpcm track with the existing DVDFab V8 made mkv.

Took almost no time what-so-ever beyond making the first mkv.

LPCM Playback was almost perfect. Dreaded lip-synch..... None with the AC3 track however.

Back to hdbrstreamextractor and this time pulled out the WAV file intact.

MKVMerge to make the lpcm audio mkv but used the WAV file. MKV with LPCM Multichannel audio is spot on.

It was very easy to do.

Now have Black Hawk Down with AC3 as default audio which plays back off my Panasonic BDT500 and LPCM Multi-channel which I can select and playback the HD Audio through my PIVOS AIOS. I can also just leave the audio at AC3 and that plays fine through the AIOS as well.

One archived file on my NAS drive.......
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