Latest Ceton InfiniTV 4 Info Thread - Page 8

Long story short - if I swap motherboards does anyone know off hand if I have to repair the cable card in the ceton tuner with the cable company again?


The long story:

I will be using all the same other hardware - but will be switching to a different motherboard (which I have been told windows can deal with nowadays).

My motherboard has been acting flaky and has gone on several 'reboot' cycles where it would reboot endlessly before doing something (I guess using the backup bios) to fix itself. I have a gigabyte board with two BIOSes.

My guess is that I electroshocked one of the BIOS chips by mistake. I hear this causes alot more part death then people realize.. I also know that I can't watch the copy protected shows once I make the switch..

I suppose I can figure this out myself by dropping the card into a different PC and seeing what happens. But I am just curious if anyone knows. Anyway I am thinking I am going to dump my HTPC case and get a real PC case (I have zero WAF to deal with - and just want cold expansion cards) - and I am going to swap motherboards while I am at it.

Pete

Assuming the cable card is paired, it's paired to the Ceton not the PC so you can move it around as you please, kind of like how a STB doesn't care what TV you put it on. If you have DRM'd recordings your MB change will likely make them unusable.

I need help with the same situation. I just upgraded my mobo and CPU today (Intel i3-2000 with Asus H67 mobo). The audio and video from a PC perspective works fine. I installed the same Ceton tuner and cable card and when I try to tune any channel-even clear QAM-local channels-WMC displays the "Display Driver Error-The video playback device does not support playback of protected content" message. Note that the playready driver within WMC would not install. I even un-then reinstalled the Ceton software and ran into the same problem.

I can't believe playready is incompatible with the relatively new Intel i3 and H67 chipset. Any suggestions for getting playready to work?

Note that I know the tuner is receiving the channels. When I first tried to tune an encrypted channel within WMC it actually would play for a second or two then the aforementioned error message would appear and cut playback off. Ceton diagnostics shows proper CC pairing and no other warnings are shown anywhere within the diagnostics app.

I had to do this to get PlayReady to install. Note that there are a couple of errors in the instructions above.

Deleting the DRM key from the requires elevated priviledges but it can't be done simply by running as admin. You will need to right click on the registry key, select Permissions, and check Full Control. Once that is done it can be deleted.

Also there is no need to run the ResetDRM tool. By deleting the designated directory structures and files you are essentially doing this manually.

Also, prior to deleting the files and registry key I had to uninstall WMC as well by going to Programs and Features and clicking on Turn Windows features on or off. Once all the directories/files and registry key were deleted I reinstalled WMC and ran setup again. PlayReady finally installed properly.

Can you let me know which version of the Intel Video drivers you are using? The last time I upgraded them, they were of the near instant BSOD variety, and I feel like I have tried the latest batches, finding 2291 to be the last stable one for me. Are you pullling them straight from Intel, or via Gigabyte's site? SLAYER6669, can you chime in and say which version you installed?

RE: Ceton drivers - I'll check their site, but I have had their software check, and every time I fire it up it indicates I'm up to date on both.

I did discover the 'allow applications to take exclusive control' disabling fix, but with the rumored automatic frequency update coming to TMT5, I'm going to want bitstreaming still onboard. Audio however is a separate issue from these video crashes. Is the freebie you're referring to reClock?

Thanks, everyone.

I installed my Ceton earlier this week. I'm having some new HDMI handshake issues ever since installing the card. When I wake the HTPC from sleep the Media Center interface will be shifted to one side of the screen or it'll be in 4:3 mode. I've even had troubles where the screen will just be black and only a reboot will fix it. Changing inputs on my receiver a few times fixed the weird resolution, but the black screen couldn't be solved.

This used to happen like once a month pre-Ceton (the weird resolution problems). Now it happens all the time. Why?

Also, when waking from sleep the computer often becomes unresponsive for a minute or so. Any ideas on that one?

I just upgraded the firmware from 1.0.2.8 -> 1.0.3.4. Maybe that'll solve my issues?

I'm using an ATI 5450 for my video. Like I said, this didn't start happening regularly until I installed the Ceton this week.

The unresponsive thing is completely new.

I actually have an older version installed 8.15.10.2279.. The newest ones are the same for me.. BSOD.

Yes, you can use something like Reclock also.. just a different way to skin the cat.. I'm using the 2372 drivers on the Intel, Ceton's latest are:

Driver: 1.1.0.8-20110309
Kernel Driver: 1.0.2.0
InfiniTV Firmware: 1.0.3.4
InfiniTV Hardware (updatable) 4884

As long as you have the newest InfinitV and Intel, it goes easier.

Unfortunately I read these instructions too late so I reinstalled the OS. Given all the new hardware this was probably not a bad idea anyway. Playready appears to have installed properly this time but now I've run into a new problem (sigh...). When I try to tune a live channel within WMC I get an error message that the TV, video card driver, or cable does not support HDCP.

I know it can't be my TV or hdmi cable. This new hardware is Intel's i3-2000 with HD2000 IGP. The drivers for the IGP are the latest from Intel's website (April 2011 IMS).

Would this have anything to do with Intel's MEI driver? I don't know much about it and have not installed it yet.

The Intel IGP driver version is 8.15.10.2361

Thanks in advance.

Eric

Quick update: I think I've isolated the problem. WMC, Intel's HD2000 driver, or some combination of the two does not think my Onkyo TX-NR5008 AV Receiver is HDCP capable (it is). Currently, the Onkyo is being displayed as the primary TV within Intel's video manager as expected. However, when I bypassed the Onkyo and ran HDMI directly to my main and secondary displays (both HDCP capable) I got proper TV picture and sound from WMC .

I really want to watch TV from the Ceton via the Onkyo receiver, so any ideas on how to make it HDCP compatible to WMC/HD2000 IGP? I think this has more to do with the IGP drivers than WMC because I had an older Intel e5200 + Nvidia IGP 9400 working perfectly for TV with WMC just a few days ago.

Quick update: I've confirmed that the i3's HD2000 video chipset/driver is the culprit. Once I bypassed it with a Nvidia GT-520 card for HDMI audio and video, the HDCP error went away and WMC passed Ceton TV through the Onkyo receiver perfectly. Of course given my luck lately, the GT-520 caused a new problem because it won't detect my second display (21" Vizio LCD TV) via DVI and I need this capability.

I'll ask future questions on this topic in the Intel Sandy Bridge thread but wanted to offer this as a warning to anyone considering a Intel i-series processor, Ceton, and Onkyo receiver combination.

This is true.. but playready, the WDRM pairing with the OS can easily be broken. I cloned a drive and it would not longer play copy proteced content. Next time I would remove the Ceton from the box, uninstall playready, clone, the drive, reinstall playready then reinstall the Ceton, who really knows. It seems easy enough to break.

Alright, been running the InfiniTV 4 for about a week now and have 1 major issue that is killing the experience so far. I'm running the network tuner sharing, have 2 tuners on the main HTPC with the Ceton card in it, and 1 each assigned to 2 HTPCs in other rooms.

My issue is that damn "View or Listening Conflict / No tuners available" message. This has happened a couple times on all 3 of the PCs, including the main HTPC which is on 24/7 and doesn't get put to sleep. The kicker that makes this issue such a big deal is no matter what I do, the only way to get TV back is to re-run the Network Tuner Sharing wizard, and then re-do the TV signal setup in WMC. About a 10 minute process, and not something I can explain to the wife very easily.

It's like WMC completely loses visibility of the tuner itself. I can restart WMC, reboot the PC, you name it. When the issue is occurring and I go into Setup TV Signal in WMC, it says it doesn't even detect any tuners in my system. I could understand this maybe happening on the "networked" tuners I am sharing out, but on the PC it is physically connected to? That shouldn't happen.

So like I said, the only way at this point is to re-run the Network Tuner Sharing wizard first and then re-setup my signal in WMC. This is a huge PITA. Just wondering if anyone else is battling this issue and what you've done. Probably going to engage Ceton support this week when I have a chance. It certainly seems to be a software/driver issue of some sort.

To answer the obvious questions - I'm running the latest driver and firmware, none of the tuners are in use recording or doing anything at the time of the issue.

I also had a lot of issues with "conflict, no tuner available" when using the network tuner software.. Same issues as yours, requiring 10-15 minutes of work to get everything working again. Totally unacceptable when the wife & kids are wanting to watch something :P

I ended up uninstalling network tuner and going back to using just Xbox extenders on the other TVs.

If you run the Ceton diagnostic you'll probably seem some boxes with a red X indicating it is not happy. Try running the WMC setup twice in a row. Don't know why this has an effect, but I had to do this to get my tuner working reliably with a static IP address. It works every time now on both the host and client PCs, except for a brief pause if the host has been rebooted.

Yes, in my Ceton diagnostic, the 2nd one on the device tab which says something like "device not setup for use with WMC, please re-install drivers" has the red dash next to it. Odd part about that is it has always been that way and shows red even when TV is working fine.

I have re-installed the drivers several times and that hasn't went away. I have not tried running the WMC setup twice in a row though like you suggested. I will give that a try tonight when I get home.

Right, that 20 to 40 sec after a reboot is normal from what Ceton describes in their documentation. It seems that in my situation that re-sync'ing is not occurring properly and I have to actually manually re-run the signal setup after every time there is a power cycle.

Case in point this morning we had a power outage and after the reboot, all 3 of my HTPC's needed to be manually re-configured. So it sounds like it at least in part has something to do with the network tuner sharing configuration.

I've at least got a couple of things to try out tonight troubleshooting-wise. I have to get this functionality working reliably, otherwise there's no point in having this card for my setup. At least another alternative (HDHR Prime) is coming out in a month if I can't get this straightened out by then.

No, I uninstalled the Tuner software on my HTPC and one client PC that I assigned a tuner to, then went through the TV tuner configuration in WMC.. The tuner on the HTPC and 2 Xbox 360's is now stable again..

With the tuner wizard software installed, I would sometimes be stable for 5 minutes, sometimes a day or 2, but eventually I'd have to go through the entire setup again to clear the "no tuner available" messages.. That did not go over well with the wife. It needs to be 100% stable, or it's useless.

ACK!! I spoke too soon.. Just went over to the HTPC:

Viewing or listening conflict.
No tuner available to satisfy the current request.

This is with the Network Tuner Sharing Uninstalled. Never had this issue before installing that software

Nope. I switched from an AMD to an Intel 2500K, reformatted, etc. and my cablecard was still paired and ready to go right off the bat after I installed drivers.

Finally had my cable card installed today. All I can say is wow. The W7MC interface makes my DirecTV box look like a dinosaur. Navigation speed is outstanding. Wife is impressed as well.