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post #2401 of 4515
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

Did you move the 5124 card to the same slot the 5000 card had been in or leave it in the slot it was in? Unless you moved it to the slot the 5000 card was using, you can't really draw any conclusions that the 5124 card was the problem. A couple of good tests to run would be to put the 5000 card into the slot the 5124 card was in and see what happens and then put the 5124 card into the slot the 5000 card was using and see what happens. My hunch is you'll find there's something about the slot on that motherboard that's causing the issue (something like an IRQ conflict, for example).

I actually have tried switching and verifying each time. Its something with the two cards in at the same time. I sent CETON a log of each card - Hopefully they can figure it out as I would hate to have to build a new PC.
post #2402 of 4515
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Originally Posted by mariob33 View Post

I actually have tried switching and verifying each time. Its something with the two cards in at the same time. I sent CETON a log of each card - Hopefully they can figure it out as I would hate to have to build a new PC.

Will you PM your ticket #?
post #2403 of 4515
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Originally Posted by sgbroimp View Post

FWIW - I was having "no tuners available" in WMS and only a reboot would fix. Since upgading FW from 1.0.9.6 to 1.1.2.4 this has been eliminated and the aggravation with it. My tuner is USB 4881 Hardware, Dec.2011 purchased. I am still seeing occasional re-boot and recordings clipped "due to another component". I may try the newer beta and see what that does.

I was getting "no tuners available" when I brought the HTPC out of sleep, but if I waited a minute or so the problem resolved itself, no reboot necessary. Same specs - USB, 4881, purchased Dec 2011. I still see the same with 1.1.7.2

Since loading 1.1.7.2 last Friday the Ceton has not rebooted on it's own, uptime 6+ days. I shut everything down last night to upgrade the memory in the HTPC so I've reset the timer, but at this point I would recommend loading 1.1.7.2 and see how it works for you. You can always revert back to 1.1.2.4 if it causes other issues and frankly 1.1.2.4 was not very stable on my USB unit.
post #2404 of 4515
It takes a little bit for the cable card to verify its authorization when you wake up/reboot a PC. Nothing can be done about it
post #2405 of 4515
So I am installing the Ceton right now. PCIE version. Put it in the pc with the mcard in it. Hooked it up to the tuning adapter and plugged the TA into the PC.

Installed the ceton driver. When I go to diagnostic I can see it. But when I go to setting and "TV Signal" in WMC it just keeps loading and freezes up. THe circle is spinning but I can't close WMC and have to do so through the task manager. I have let it sit this time for about 5 minutes and its doing nothing.

So it finally unfroze. Did the tv signal setup and its only detecting my Avermedia Duet.

I had the HDHR Prime before this with the same cable card. I haven't unpaired yet because I can't even get to the screen to see all the info to give time warner.

Someone help please.
post #2406 of 4515
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

So I am installing the Ceton right now. PCIE version. Put it in the pc with the mcard in it. Hooked it up to the tuning adapter and plugged the TA into the PC.

Installed the ceton driver. When I go to diagnostic I can see it. But when I go to setting and "TV Signal" in WMC it just keeps loading and freezes up. THe circle is spinning but I can't close WMC and have to do so through the task manager. I have let it sit this time for about 5 minutes and its doing nothing.

So it finally unfroze. Did the tv signal setup and its only detecting my Avermedia Duet.

I had the HDHR Prime before this with the same cable card. I haven't unpaired yet because I can't even get to the screen to see all the info to give time warner.

Someone help please.

Don't know if unpairing it from the HDHRP has anything to do with it, but I have successfully paired my CC in 2 different USB units from the Ceton Diagnostic Tool. Go to the CableCARD tab, the information you need to give the cable co should be listed in box #5
post #2407 of 4515
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Originally Posted by smcmillan2 View Post

Don't know if unpairing it from the HDHRP has anything to do with it, but I have successfully paired my CC in 2 different USB units from the Ceton Diagnostic Tool. Go to the CableCARD tab, the information you need to give the cable co should be listed in box #5

Thank you I'm going to try that now. I hope this ceton isn't bad. WMC is not detecting a tuner being installed. I tried both pciex1 slots and now the x16. In all slots I can see the ceton in the diagnostic tool. But when I try to run the tv setup it sees no tuner. And then sometimes after that happens the diagnostic tool sees no tuner anymore.

I know the slots are fine as I just pulled a Duet and a nic card out of them.

Called time warner. I can't even see the Host ID to give it to them. They said the ceton should be able to display that no problem. This sucks I waited a week for the return of the HDHR to go through and now this. If anyone from Ceton sees this I would appreciate any help. Going to submit a ticket.
post #2408 of 4515
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

It takes a little bit for the cable card to verify its authorization when you wake up/reboot a PC. Nothing can be done about it

Yup, wasn't concerned unless it did not correct itself (and it has not had a problem doing so to date).

BTW, have been enjoying your HT building thread. My current aspirations are not nearly as grand, but I'm looking into a single 61" with 3x 26" across the top setup once Ceton announces the Echo for college football season. Lots of good info in your thread, thanks for all the sharing.
post #2409 of 4515
Well I submitted my ticket. Now I wait. Why does this stuff always happen to me on a friday. No tv for the weekend I guess. I have a feeling this is going to be an rma.
post #2410 of 4515
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Originally Posted by whiteboy714 View Post

Well I submitted my ticket. Now I wait. Why does this stuff always happen to me on a friday. No tv for the weekend I guess. I have a feeling this is going to be an rma.

Hate to state the obvious, just feeling you pain - you have tried:
Tasks > Settings > General > Windows Media Center Setup > Run Setup Again

?

xnappo
post #2411 of 4515
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Originally Posted by xnappo View Post

Hate to state the obvious, just feeling you pain - you have tried:
Tasks > Settings > General > Windows Media Center Setup > Run Setup Again

?

xnappo

I haven't. Do you think I should? That would mess everything up and be quite a pain. The ceton can't even read the info off the cable card outside of WMC. The time warner guy said it should do that regardless of any pairing or anything.

So I'm thinking its the Ceton. Hopefully they respond tomorrow as they are open on saturday. Already got a return setup through amazon. But holding off on that until I talk to ceton.
post #2412 of 4515
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Originally Posted by joutlaw View Post

Interesting... my tuners are at 48.5 C. I may need to get some more airflow in my case.

just checked them now...

well as you must know.... there are 4 temps to look at because each tuner has a separate reading.

40 C on each of the two tuners that are active.

i do have some good airflow and I am using one of those new Antec 120MM quiet fans.

P.S. you should refresh when you check the temp because when I just checked tuner 1 the temp said 35 C then one second later after a refresh it gave me a 40.5 C reading.... and when I continue to refresh I get the same 40.5 C reading.
post #2413 of 4515
Ceton Says:

"The InfiniTV's maximum temperature supported is 65C. The Ceton Diagnostic Tool will show, under the Devices tab, whether the InfiniTV card is within its proper temperature range."

why would Ceton not edit this false information?

OR.... am I missing something?
post #2414 of 4515
Questions for noob like me please. I just received Ceton 4 USB and CableCard today from Timewarner. What should I do next ? Do I have to upgrade firmware or just call TimeWarner to activate my card ? Please advise. Thanks.
post #2415 of 4515
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Originally Posted by dubboxster View Post

Questions for noob like me please. I just received Ceton 4 USB and CableCard today from Timewarner. What should I do next ? Do I have to upgrade firmware or just call TimeWarner to activate my card ? Please advise. Thanks.

Follow the instructions that came with it.

Come back here if you have issue.

xnappo
post #2416 of 4515
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

Ceton Says:

"The InfiniTV's maximum temperature supported is 65C. The Ceton Diagnostic Tool will show, under the Devices tab, whether the InfiniTV card is within its proper temperature range."

why would Ceton not edit this false information?

OR.... am I missing something?


What is your question? Ceton says they support temps up to 65C - if you are above 65C, then fix your temps, otherwise they are stating that your temp is not an issue.

Have you received correspondence with Ceton in conflict with that statement?

xnappo
post #2417 of 4515
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Originally Posted by xnappo View Post

Follow the instructions that came with it.

Come back here if you have issue.

xnappo

I'm on Ceton InfiniTV Diagnostic Tool. Under CableCARD
Step 1. Invalid CableCARD inserted. A single stream CableCARD (SCard) is inserted. Please contract your cable company and ask for an MCARD.
post #2418 of 4515
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Originally Posted by smcmillan2 View Post

I was getting "no tuners available" when I brought the HTPC out of sleep, but if I waited a minute or so the problem resolved itself, no reboot necessary. Same specs - USB, 4881, purchased Dec 2011. I still see the same with 1.1.7.2

Since loading 1.1.7.2 last Friday the Ceton has not rebooted on it's own, uptime 6+ days. I shut everything down last night to upgrade the memory in the HTPC so I've reset the timer, but at this point I would recommend loading 1.1.7.2 and see how it works for you. You can always revert back to 1.1.2.4 if it causes other issues and frankly 1.1.2.4 was not very stable on my USB unit.

Well...my update got stuck in the middle 20min+ so I restarted the process...and...I think the thing is now bricked. Solid red light in the back...system doesn't see it.
post #2419 of 4515
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Originally Posted by xnappo View Post

What is your question? Ceton says they support temps up to 65C - if you are above 65C, then fix your temps, otherwise they are stating that your temp is not an issue.

Have you received correspondence with Ceton in conflict with that statement?

xnappo

I put it in bold for you. forget about the part of the max temp.

okay then.... are you able to check the temp by using the instructions in the quote from Ceton?
you know, by using the ceton diag tool or what ever they call it?

okay my question is: how do you check the temp in the Ceton Diag. tool?
post #2420 of 4515
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Originally Posted by Tr4nc3f0rm3r View Post

Well...my update got stuck in the middle 20min+ so I restarted the process...and...I think the thing is now bricked. Solid red light in the back...system doesn't see it.

are you sure it was stuck?
how long is the firmware update to take on average?

some firmware updates can take a while.
post #2421 of 4515
[quote=dubboxster;21850137]I'm on Ceton InfiniTV Diagnostic Tool. Under CableCARD
Step 1. Invalid CableCARD inserted. A single stream CableCARD (SCard) is inserted. Please contract your cable company and ask for an MCARD.[/QUOTE

What / who is the idiot at the cable co . that gave you an "S" card ? . You must have an "M" card . Go back and get the correct one . They know exactly what u need .... sounds like game playing to me Your most likely going to need a tuning adapter as well . Those are free at the your cable co.

Ceton has very good instructions for proper installation of there product . You will need to also follow your cable co. instructions for installing the cable card / tuning adapter. Time Warner (who I use) has a real good web page of instructions for both .

One step that is real easy to over look is running the "digital cable adviser " during the install process . Miss this step and you ain't going no where !

The whole process would have taken me about 2 hours tops if I had not missed the digital cable adviser step . That's even considering the time on the phone with cable co. to pair the card !

Another words ... it isn't hard
post #2422 of 4515
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

I put it in bold for you. forget about the part of the max temp.

okay then.... are you able to check the temp by using the instructions in the quote from Ceton?
you know, by using the ceton diag tool or what ever they call it?

okay my question is: how do you check the temp in the Ceton Diag. tool?

Sure. There are multiple tools which is probably the confusion.

From within WMC you can go to extras>ceton>diagnostics>(select card)>tuners

From Windows start>ceton diags tool>devices>go to infinitv web page>(tuner number)>tuner

xnappo
post #2423 of 4515
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

are you sure it was stuck?
how long is the firmware update to take on average?

some firmware updates can take a while.

Well...I'm done a lot of firmware updates with the recent issues and the longest that one took was around 5 min.

Of course we're talking a handful of updates....maybe 6 or 7 in total so not a lot. I just know that this particular update, the green bar did not move and I waited a long while...

Not sure if it means anything or not but I can ping 192.168.200.1 and get a response...but that's all I'm afraid...I submitted a ticket to Ceton to see if they might have something that can flash at a lower level (I hope) or if they'll swap me out. If not, then I'll need to make the call on what to do next....

Man....just when I thought things were becoming stablilized....
post #2424 of 4515
So the other funny part about this is that I'm travelling all next week...so basically, I break the TV and leave for an entire week...

What do you think the WAF is on that?

post #2425 of 4515
Does anyone have any leads on promising software for disabling copy protection?
post #2426 of 4515
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

If there's any sort of airflow at all in this case, something else changed that is causing that much heat rise. Worst-case scenario (CableCARD drawing the maximum amount of power allowed, all 4 tuners on, etc) the InfiniTV draws 12 watts. This is less than twice the amount of heat a typical nightlight creates (and I would bet that typical operation is closer to a single nightlight)

You might be surprised. My InfiniTV temps lowered by ~5C when we moved and switched from TWC to FIOS. I have a reasonable large case (RAIDMAX Smilodon), although the airflow is somewhat limited by having a HVR-2250, a dialup modem for Caller ID, and a video card also present - I added a PCI-slot fan to counteract this.
post #2427 of 4515
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Originally Posted by RobbyTV View Post

Ceton Says:

"The InfiniTV's maximum temperature supported is 65C. The Ceton Diagnostic Tool will show, under the Devices tab, whether the InfiniTV card is within its proper temperature range."

why would Ceton not edit this false information?

OR.... am I missing something?

I just triple-checked on one of my own machines and it's there - "Your InfiniTV is above the specified max..."
post #2428 of 4515
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Originally Posted by tr4nc3f0rm3r View Post

so the other funny part about this is that i'm travelling all next week...so basically, i break the tv and leave for an entire week...

What do you think the waf is on that?



-10 :d
post #2429 of 4515
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Originally Posted by smcmillan2 View Post

Yup, wasn't concerned unless it did not correct itself (and it has not had a problem doing so to date).

BTW, have been enjoying your HT building thread. My current aspirations are not nearly as grand, but I'm looking into a single 61" with 3x 26" across the top setup once Ceton announces the Echo for college football season. Lots of good info in your thread, thanks for all the sharing.

Thanks! I learned a LOT from the people in that subforum, so I know I have to give back as well.
post #2430 of 4515
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Originally Posted by tkole View Post

Does anyone have any leads on promising software for disabling copy protection?

I searched long and hard a month or two back, and there is nothing anywhere. If you find something, post it in a thread.
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