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post #3271 of 4509
I hate to say it but you might want to reload Win7 from scratch with nothing but the tuner in the PC and no extra software loaded and try again. Sounds like a hardware or driver conflict.

When the card goes away in WMC and Ceton's Diag, does it still show up in Device Manager or are there yellow exclamation marks? What about after a rescan in DM?
post #3272 of 4509
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Originally Posted by DrDon View Post

AVG replaced by MS Essentials. Still won't see the tuner. Spent a good part of yesterday trying everything under the sun with Ceton on the phone. The "Collect Diagnostics" tab of the Diagnostic Tool continually stops at 3/4 complete. That's where it hangs.
Ceton says the fact I've had Hauppauge cards in this machine might be what is keeping it from installing. Even with them out, however, there are issues.
Every reboot...
Ceton's standalone Diagnostic Tool will see the tuners.
Then I launch WMC and go through setting up the TV signal.
WMC reports that it can't find any tuners connected.
At that point, the Ceton standalone tool suddenly can't find them anymore, either.
Baffling. Two days and I still can't get it to work.

Did you un-install the AVG and Hauppauge software?

You need to also uninstall the Hauppauge drivers.

You may not need to do a complete Windows re-install but rather a repair installation.
post #3273 of 4509
SUCCESS!!!

The culprit was internet connection sharing (ICS).

While I have a wired home network, when the cable goes out (taking the internet with it) I tether my smartphone to this computer and have it set to where my wife can work in her office through that. Internet Connection Sharing was causing the traffic jam. I don't even have that phone, anymore. And my latest phone doubles as a WiFi hotspot, so I no longer need ICS for anything.

My thanks to the Ceton team. And God bless Pam (the mother of the guys who are Ceton) for her tireless efforts to get this resolved. I'm sure she had better things to do than spend her Sunday on the phone with me. But, MAN, that's service.

Glad it's working. I'm scared to try to get the Hauppauge 2250 to co-exist. Maybe I'll mess with it this weekend. Restore point set, though, in case I wreck it, again.

I do like how Windows picked up my series recordings and changed them to the new channels. Only missed a couple and those shows aren't even airing right now.

My thanks to all of you for the suggestions. I think the elimination of ICS plus suggestions here brought about the success.

This mod owes you all a tip of the hat.
post #3274 of 4509
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

I hate to say it but you might want to reload Win7 from scratch with nothing but the tuner in the PC and no extra software loaded and try again. Sounds like a hardware or driver conflict.
When the card goes away in WMC and Ceton's Diag, does it still show up in Device Manager or are there yellow exclamation marks? What about after a rescan in DM?
It showed up fine in Device Mgr whether the Ceton Tool could see the tuners or not. No yellow exclamations.
post #3275 of 4509
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

Copy freely is CCI 0x00. The NIC will be unrelated to this.

I tried several actions, but the final solution was at http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10360.

Solution 2:

1) Quit Windows Media Center if running.

2) Open a cmd prompt - run as administrator.

3) Run the following commands one at a time:
Code:
net stop ehrecvr
cd %programdata%\Microsoft\PlayReady
del *.hds
rmdir /s Cache
cd %programdata%\Microsoft\ehome
del *.hds
rmdir /s Cache
net start ehrecvr

4) Run Windows Media Center. Update PlayReady by going through Tasks, Settings, TV, TV Signal, Update PlayReady.

After going through these steps, the pairing status changed back to "green".

Given that there are multiple solutions to attempt, I suspect that there are several causes to the symptoms and that no solution fits all frown.gif. Since this is a Ceton thread, the good news is that it doesn't seem to be a problem with Ceton's products:)
post #3276 of 4509
WOW - I lost over 50 channels just like that. Comcast added a bunch of HD channels some weeks ago, all in the 1000-1600 frequency. They were coming in fine and now, "pow!", most are gone and some wierd stiff is happening like channel 1024 is listed twice in the guide and tunes to two different channels, one right and one wrong. ESPN 1 and 2 tune to completely wrong channels. The rest just bring a blue screen and "unable to tune" message. Anyone else seeing this? Rebooting the PC, rebooting the Inf 4 (USB version), resetting the cable card and going through the tuner set up all bring NADA! I also have an STB and a second TV with cable card. All stations listed above tune fine. This kind of stuff is going to be a killer for Ceton whose financial premise is based largely on getting rid of STB and second outlet fees. I just can't come home to a set up that can't tune its bloody channels.
post #3277 of 4509
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Originally Posted by sgbroimp View Post

WOW - I lost over 50 channels just like that. Comcast added a bunch of HD channels some weeks ago, all in the 1000-1600 frequency.

Really? I have never heard of cable QAM in that frequency range - do you have any info relating to this?

xnappo
post #3278 of 4509
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Originally Posted by xnappo View Post

Really? I have never heard of cable QAM in that frequency range - do you have any info relating to this?
xnappo
No cable TV provider puts channels above 1GHz, and very few use anything over 860MHz.
post #3279 of 4509
Sure - Go to Zap2it.com and plug in my zip code 06413, then digital Chester. You will see channel listings that include many in the range 1003-1980.
post #3280 of 4509
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Originally Posted by sgbroimp View Post

Sure - Go to Zap2it.com and plug in my zip code 06413, then digital Chester. You will see channel listings that include many in the range 1003-1980.

Err channel number does not equal frequency!

Have you tried manually refreshing the guide? The data comes from zap2it...

xnappo
post #3281 of 4509
Ugh, of course. I meant channel numbers.....so what's the answer to the question about why the bloody thing won't tune many of them?
post #3282 of 4509
This might help. I cannot guarantee any results because I haven't had to do this so I haven't done it..
post #3283 of 4509
Thanks much. I will study.
post #3284 of 4509
Take a look here too.
post #3285 of 4509
Why dont i ever see any test of The Emergency Alert System on my wmc computer with a ceton card?
I get them on tivo and nothing happens on wmc.
post #3286 of 4509
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Originally Posted by tootal2 View Post

Why dont i ever see any test of The Emergency Alert System on my wmc computer with a ceton card?
I get them on tivo and nothing happens on wmc.

That's a good question. We just had major storms here last night and when the cable company cut in with an automatic tuning to the Weather Channel for emergency info, mine just went to a black screen. Meanwhile, other TVs in the house that are connected directly to basic cable or to digital cable via set top boxes worked just fine. And I do have the Weather Channel in my guide and can manually tune to it at other times.
post #3287 of 4509
I get them emergency alerts tests all the time on mine. And it seems once it pops up it doesnt go away for like 10 hrs. Stuck with it across the top of the screen on every channel, every recording
post #3288 of 4509
Yup. There was a recent discussion of this over in the Charter HDTV forum. Apparently the alert is required to be on your screen for the duration of the alert until it is cancelled. You cannot dismiss it. This is all part of a vast conspiracy to keep everybody scared so the 1% can control you mind.
post #3289 of 4509
I recently removed a wireless range extender which appeared to solve all of the issues that i was having with my system. However, I am still having some network bandwidth issues, and I am considering changing from the on board Realtek NIC to a PCIe Intel NIC due to slow channel changes. Any chance that this tubes my whole system? Will I have to manually reconnect each Xbox to the HTPC? Will this mess up the play ready business? Can I easily change back to the original NIC if needed?

My family wants to be able to flip through channels while watching media center through the Xbox just like they do on Comcast's DVR. If we change the channels too much, the system gets locked up and has to be restarted. Any thoughts out there?
post #3290 of 4509
How much faster will a change in the NIC make channel changes?
post #3291 of 4509
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Originally Posted by 1992lee View Post

Will I have to manually reconnect each Xbox to the HTPC?

I recently changed NICs. The only issue with my extender was that it couldn't wake up the HTPC the first time I used the extender after changing NICs in the HTPC, so I turned on the HTPC manually. After turning the HTPC on manually the first time, the extender found it and has been able wake it up without manaul intervention.
post #3292 of 4509
Thanks Sea3!
post #3293 of 4509
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

How much faster will a change in the NIC make channel changes?

I heard that Intel handles things better than Realtek. I don't know if this is true.
post #3294 of 4509
I've heard that too but am not so displeased with the Realtec NIC to get an intel add-on card.
post #3295 of 4509
Personally, I don't think a new nic will help with the slow channel changing, as tuning and displaying digital channels is "slow"... gone are the days of channel surfing... generally you now need to use a guide to find out what is on... however a new nic might help with other stability problems such as the hangups when you do frequently change channels. If it does help, significantly, please let me know. I hated it when my cable company "forced" my analog capable STB to tune the simulcast digital channel, as it always seems to take forever to switch channels. Do you have an SSD in your system? I have heard numerous people claim how much faster things like the guide respond when you have an ssd. I don't have one for my main media center as I always seem to convince myself to buy a new 2-3TB drive whenever I think of upgrading so I don't know how it would affect the speed of your channel surfing habits. Moving the OS to it might also break playready but I do know people who have had success.
post #3296 of 4509
SSD's speed up everything. Highly recommeded. I would recommed that before swapping out the NIC.
post #3297 of 4509
Yes, the most noticeable improvement for me was that the WMC guide loads in only 1-2 seconds compared to a ridiculous 10-15 seconds with a hard drive.
post #3298 of 4509
My guide loads quicker than that. No noticable lag at all. Basically as good as any STB I've had, including the Motorolla/MSCE units used by Uverse.
post #3299 of 4509
Yeah, I'm only running an AMD E-350 so the slow processor becomes the bottleneck with a SSD
post #3300 of 4509
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgbroimp View Post

WOW - I lost over 50 channels just like that. Comcast added a bunch of HD channels some weeks ago, all in the 1000-1600 frequency. They were coming in fine and now, "pow!", most are gone and some wierd stiff is happening like channel 1024 is listed twice in the guide and tunes to two different channels, one right and one wrong. ESPN 1 and 2 tune to completely wrong channels. The rest just bring a blue screen and "unable to tune" message. Anyone else seeing this? Rebooting the PC, rebooting the Inf 4 (USB version), resetting the cable card and going through the tuner set up all bring NADA! I also have an STB and a second TV with cable card. All stations listed above tune fine. This kind of stuff is going to be a killer for Ceton whose financial premise is based largely on getting rid of STB and second outlet fees. I just can't come home to a set up that can't tune its bloody channels.

This turned out to be a purely signal strength issue. I run the Ceton4 off my first cable split, so -3.5 db relative to street drop is what I get. I took out the splitter and home runned to the drop to see if this did anything and in a couple seconds I had 444 channnels acquired! The I put the split back the way it was and I am still holding signal. What I do see, however, is the fact that where my ceton was showing +2.5 db area signals, today I am down in the +0.3 to -2.8 range, so quite a drop, though I cannot swear I am looking at the identical tuned channels. Anyway, apparenlty you need more signal to do a fresh scan that to sustain. The above also suggests than in certain circumstances your ceton4 may not be happy with signals much into the minus area, at least for the card to update new channels etc. Hope some of you might benefit from this story.
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