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post #3391 of 4759
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Originally Posted by Erighan View Post

Hey all. Having a problem and need some help.
Recently installed a Ceton Infinity4 tuner as well as a new motherboard, and now my internet "network" connection keeps breaking. The only way to get internet back is to manually disable my Realtek PCIe controller and then re-enable it. I didn't have this problem before installying the Ceton. Could it be something with my motherboard and S3 sleep?
Thanks
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Originally Posted by Fatawan View Post

Are you by chance trying to run a networked tuner with your setup?

Sorry Fatawan, not sure what you specifically mean by network tuner? The only tuner I have is the InfiniTV 4. Isn't that by nature defined as a network tuner? I don't have any other tuners or network cards. Only have the PCIe controller that's part of the motherboard.

I'm still hainge the above problem and can't find a fix. Any help or recommendations are appreciated. Thanks.
post #3392 of 4759
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Originally Posted by tootal2 View Post

315 watts at idle? what kind of cpu are you useing? A new computer with the ivy bridge cpu only uses 50 watts. 315 watts seems way to high.


I'm also including the other devices that are plugged into the ups.. the cable modem, TA, Ceton, extra fans, router, switch, 32" and 22" monitors.. etc. so your right. But the power is still being used whenever the pc is on so I count it.

system specs on page 113 - post 3364. The pc is nothing special but it is overspec'd for an HTPC.. I will eventually migrate back to my old FX-60 dual core system - see older system specs)
Edited by NCoastTweaker - 8/20/12 at 7:31am
post #3393 of 4759
I'm not sure if this is a good/right place to post this, but FWIW there is a report that Microsoft plans to charge $12.79 for the Windows Media Center add-on to Windows 8.

Sadly, in Win8 it will no longer be possible to boot straight into WMC.
post #3394 of 4759
$13? Wow that's a showstopper.

Consider TiVo at $500 lifetime or whatever it is for EPG service.

I'm pretty sure a hack to launch WMC direct in Win8 will be forthcoming if it isn't already done.
post #3395 of 4759
The WMC add-on is still free until 2/13. But even free, it isn't even close to the amount of money you'd have to pay me to run the steaming POS that Windows 8 is.
post #3396 of 4759
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Originally Posted by JorgeA View Post

I'm not sure if this is a good/right place to post this, but FWIW there is a report that Microsoft plans to charge $12.79 for the Windows Media Center add-on to Windows 8.
Sadly, in Win8 it will no longer be possible to boot straight into WMC.

For a limited time, MS will be offering an upgrade from any version of windows to Windows 8 Pro, for $40. I don't have a link to the head line, google it, but that's not bad if your coming from XP or Vista, but as far as my HTPC is concerned, I have no plans to upgrade from 7 to 8, at least for now, unless a compatibility issue arises.
post #3397 of 4759
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

$13? Wow that's a showstopper.
Consider TiVo at $500 lifetime or whatever it is for EPG service.
I'm pretty sure a hack to launch WMC direct in Win8 will be forthcoming if it isn't already done.
I was just passing the price info along, hopefully without suggesting an opinion about it. smile.gif Actually, if that does turn out to be the price, it sounds pretty good to me -- I would have guessed $50, easy. I'm just glad that it's even possible to still get WMC with the new version of Windows!

The possibility of extending mainstream support for WMC (because it's tied in with Windows 8 that's coming out soon, whereas Windows 7 is 3 years closer to End-of-Life) is the only reason that I can think of for putting up with Windows 8. But we won't get into that here. wink.gif

Oh yeah, and it'll be great if somebody cooks up a solution to boot straight into WMC. And if there's a way to make Win8 boot right into WMC, then there's probably a way to make Win8 boot past the Metro screen and right into the Desktop. But we won't get into that here...
post #3398 of 4759
upgrade to a 1GBit Network: 1GBit Router, 1 GB Modem, 1 GBit/Sec Host PC feeding devices on the network.

100MBit/sec just might not be enough to cover 4 Simultaneous HD Streams.

You'd Also need at least 8-12 GB of Ram to feed that much bandwidth through a LAN from the same Box.
post #3399 of 4759
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Originally Posted by JorgeA View Post

I'm not sure if this is a good/right place to post this, but FWIW there is a report that Microsoft plans to charge $12.79 for the Windows Media Center add-on to Windows 8.
Sadly, in Win8 it will no longer be possible to boot straight into WMC.

you can get the Upgrade for $39.99 w/ WMC Addon for a limited time.


Touch screen might be useful for disabled users (like my father) who either cant physically type, or see the keyboard. just pressed the tiles on the screen, bring up TV, press guide and scroll.

I was gonna build a PC and use a wireless touch display as a cloned display for him to use as a oversized touch remote.
post #3400 of 4759
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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

you can get the Upgrade for $39.99 w/ WMC Addon for a limited time.
Touch screen might be useful for disabled users (like my father) who either cant physically type, or see the keyboard. just pressed the tiles on the screen, bring up TV, press guide and scroll.
I was gonna build a PC and use a wireless touch display as a cloned display for him to use as a oversized touch remote.

Have you seen the Ceton Companion Apps? On a tablet, that may be a good solution for your Father's needs.
post #3401 of 4759
Are they out of beta now?
post #3402 of 4759
We've been having this problem on a number of HD cable channels (7MC using the PCI InfiniTV4) where the picture gets broken up into small squares. Sometimes the squares are arranged in a narrow strip across the screen, other times they distort the image in a limited area of the screen (say, the lower left). As often as not, the sound cuts in and out too.

I went to take a photo of it today so that I could show it to you and ask what it is, and boy did I get a good example!

So what I want to know is -- is this what's called (a) pixelation, (b) macroblocking, or (c) tiling? I looked around the Web and couldn't come up with any definitive answer. Based on what I read, the best guess I can take is "tiling."

And the other thing I'd like to know is -- what are the possible causes of this problem, and what can I do about it? Solutions that DON'T involve a cableco truck roll are preferred over all others!



In case it makes a difference, note that this is happening on a limited number of high-def cable channels (for example, SyFy, FNC, Science). It doesn't seem to be affecting either the HD channels from broadcast stations that we get via cable, or SD channels of any kind.

Thanks for any hints/tips/ideas.
post #3403 of 4759
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Are they out of beta now?

i think they just got to RC over the weekend.
post #3404 of 4759
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Originally Posted by JorgeA View Post

We've been having this problem on a number of HD cable channels (7MC using the PCI InfiniTV4) where the picture gets broken up into small squares. Sometimes the squares are arranged in a narrow strip across the screen, other times they distort the image in a limited area of the screen (say, the lower left). As often as not, the sound cuts in and out too.
I went to take a photo of it today so that I could show it to you and ask what it is, and boy did I get a good example!
So what I want to know is -- is this what's called (a) pixelation, (b) macroblocking, or (c) tiling? I looked around the Web and couldn't come up with any definitive answer. Based on what I read, the best guess I can take is "tiling."
And the other thing I'd like to know is -- what are the possible causes of this problem, and what can I do about it? Solutions that DON'T involve a cableco truck roll are preferred over all others!

In case it makes a difference, note that this is happening on a limited number of high-def cable channels (for example, SyFy, FNC, Science). It doesn't seem to be affecting either the HD channels from broadcast stations that we get via cable, or SD channels of any kind.
Thanks for any hints/tips/ideas.

thats called "Un-Correctable Errors in the Digital Signal Stream."

if its only happening on certain channels, its a Frequency issue, either the frequency is blocked/degraded by the Lines in the house, the splitters, or power levels.

my DVR Cable Box has the same problems with only 2 channels, but certain times a day its 4 channels (Power levels in the area drop when people come home, and Cox hasnt fixed the issue).

Check the Signal specs while your watching that channel.
post #3405 of 4759
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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

i think they just got to RC over the weekend.

RC?
post #3406 of 4759
Release Candidate
post #3407 of 4759
I don't think many of us who aren't part of the Companion App beta have really seen anything beyond the early demo videos. I haven't seen any discussion here on AVS and it sounds like Ceton has their own forum, but it's only accessible to beta participants. I've been curious about just exactly what the apps provide as I'm wondering if I should bother reinstalling Remote Potato or not.
post #3408 of 4759
Thanks. So they need approval of the play store? I thought only apple did that?
post #3409 of 4759
Man, August 31st can't get here fast enough! biggrin.gif Exciting info here:

http://cetoncorp.com/blog/ceton-hearts-the-green-button/
post #3410 of 4759
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Originally Posted by JorgeA View Post

We've been having this problem on a number of HD cable channels (7MC using the PCI InfiniTV4) where the picture gets broken up into small squares. Sometimes the squares are arranged in a narrow strip across the screen, other times they distort the image in a limited area of the screen (say, the lower left). As often as not, the sound cuts in and out too.
I went to take a photo of it today so that I could show it to you and ask what it is, and boy did I get a good example!
So what I want to know is -- is this what's called (a) pixelation, (b) macroblocking, or (c) tiling? I looked around the Web and couldn't come up with any definitive answer. Based on what I read, the best guess I can take is "tiling."
And the other thing I'd like to know is -- what are the possible causes of this problem, and what can I do about it? Solutions that DON'T involve a cableco truck roll are preferred over all others!

In case it makes a difference, note that this is happening on a limited number of high-def cable channels (for example, SyFy, FNC, Science). It doesn't seem to be affecting either the HD channels from broadcast stations that we get via cable, or SD channels of any kind.
Thanks for any hints/tips/ideas.

Who is your cable provider? If you use FiOS, you need to get a truck roll and have the tech bring out a Low Pass Filter (LPF)...he will have them in his truck. Place it on the cable doing into your InfiniTV...not on the dongle end of the cable, as the weight of the LPF could break it...place it on the other side of the coax heading to the InfiniTV.
post #3411 of 4759
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Thanks. So they need approval of the play store? I thought only apple did that?
No you can download the app from the play store. You just need to get your hands on the windows .exe to make it work.
post #3412 of 4759
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Originally Posted by tootal2 View Post

I get that problem sometimes.
So do I.
post #3413 of 4759
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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

thats called "Un-Correctable Errors in the Digital Signal Stream."
if its only happening on certain channels, its a Frequency issue, either the frequency is blocked/degraded by the Lines in the house, the splitters, or power levels.
my DVR Cable Box has the same problems with only 2 channels, but certain times a day its 4 channels (Power levels in the area drop when people come home, and Cox hasnt fixed the issue).
Check the Signal specs while your watching that channel.
Thanks, I'd never heard of THAT problem! smile.gif

Hoping to avoid a truck roll... I'm wondering if I should try a signal booster, or make sure that it's RG-6 coax (and not RG-59) that I have in there.

I'll check the signal strength in the meantime.
post #3414 of 4759
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

Who is your cable provider? If you use FiOS, you need to get a truck roll and have the tech bring out a Low Pass Filter (LPF)...he will have them in his truck. Place it on the cable doing into your InfiniTV...not on the dongle end of the cable, as the weight of the LPF could break it...place it on the other side of the coax heading to the InfiniTV.

We're on Comcast. What do you think?
post #3415 of 4759
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Originally Posted by JorgeA View Post

We're on Comcast. What do you think?

Just have a look at the cable box on the exterior of your house, if you haven't already, I'm on comcast, and They had a nice array of splitters for what ever reason on the outside of my house, there was one grounding device ,0-900mhz pass through, connected by a 6" coax to a two way splitter one connection going directly to my office, I assume this was installed after the house was bulit, the other connection was plugged direclty into a 3 way slitter, so I replaced all devices with an Antronix 4 way 7db splitter with ground (there maybe better splitters), and bam, all good, but I was only having issues on couple of channels back when i first installed the PCI Ceton and I knew the mess of splitter was installed becuase I tried for while to get MOCA to work before finally running some copper through my attic.
post #3416 of 4759
Hmm. My Charter drop comes right off the pole and into my house where there's one 2-way splitter that goes to the modem and to the tuner.
post #3417 of 4759
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Originally Posted by JorgeA View Post

We're on Comcast. What do you think?

Should not be needed for you then. It is needed on FiOS due to the interference caused by the MoCA box talking to the Internet router.
post #3418 of 4759
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Originally Posted by JorgeA View Post

In case it makes a difference, note that this is happening on a limited number of high-def cable channels (for example, SyFy, FNC, Science). It doesn't seem to be affecting either the HD channels from broadcast stations that we get via cable, or SD channels of any kind.
Thanks for any hints/tips/ideas.

What are your signal levels on a channel that breaks up a lot? What are the frequencies of SyFy,FNC,Science? The broadcast stations are almost always at low frequencies which are much less prone to cable length signal drop.

Use the diag tool and and go to the diagnostics web page to get this info.

What do your cable connections look like? How many splitters and of what type starting from the POE (point of entry)?

xnappo
post #3419 of 4759
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Originally Posted by tgrinch View Post

3. Tuner dropout/Signal unavailable
This was my biggest issue as it would appear to happen randomly - I tried various tweaks seen and some hotfixes recommend by Ceton (none worked). My gut was always due to extremely slow tunings as it would take nearly 8-10 seconds to tune a channel (SDV is prevalent here). I'm now on the latest 1.1.8.41 beta and it's night and day - all my channels tune in about 4 seconds, regardless of SDV or not. Additionally, all my tuner or signal unavailable messages are gone... hopefully they release this to GA very soon as it's been very solid for me.
I have my HTPC sleep after an hour of inactivity and it works remarkably well; I do not reboot often or on a schedule. I do not use network tuners, FWIW. So no specific tweaks to suggest other than disable the USB sleep suspend mode for the TA.
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

I looked over your ticket - I see our support team has an action item out to you right now. Also, I don't believe 1.1.8.2 will help your situation - there seem to be rumors going around on what it does, which quite frankly, aren't true.

Hi Eric,

Really not trying to cause trouble -- but after the hot fixes didn't work for me either I was issued the beta. Maybe it was not intended to fix the slow tuning problem - but it certainly does (at least with my TWC/SDV setup). I am seeing the same result at tgrinch - tuning time is at LEAST 3x faster. I will need to run for a few more days to be sure the false 'signal not available' is cleaned up, but so far so good.

xnappo

PS. All - please do not PM me about the beta - I am not sending it to anyone. If you are having this problem, submit a ticket. Install the hotfix on the support site first and make sure that doesn't help.
post #3420 of 4759
I noticed I was unable to get a few channels the other day. I went to the diagnostic tool and tried to tune those stations and it said "not found in channel list or signal too poor".

The next thing I tried was to clear the channel map. I seem to be having issues getting a channel map update. I noticed that I had 394 channels, but my channel map entry was 0. I hit the clear channel map button on the channel list and channel map both go to 0.

At that point in the logs, it seems I never get the update. It says the flash is locked:

Jan 1 00:21:28 ocur[21]: ocur: ocur_presentation_get_info:489 : Clearing channel map
Jan 1 00:21:28 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_cm_CacheNewChannelMap:842 ERROR: Could not open flash channel map file for writing
Jan 1 00:21:28 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_hal_hal_pcmcia_reset_posted:2043 : Card reset
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_hal_hal_pcmcia_reset_done_posted:2059 : Card reset done
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_SetCardMessage:999 : SetCardMessage = (null)
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[0]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[1]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[2]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[3]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:36 ocur[21]: cyrano: dri_driEventListener:920 WARNING: No callback for dri event 00400000
Jan 1 00:21:38 ocur[21]: libcetontune: mxl241sf_cetontune_get_oob_locked:1319 : override oob lock (sl 4.250000 snr 11.581000)

I have no channels until I reboot the PC and then there is an entry that 394 channels were loaded from the flash.

What would cause the channel map update to fail? It sounds to be me like an issue with CableCard, but want to make sure. This is at least my 4th CableCard from Comcast.
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