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post #3451 of 4746
Well the DCA fails on graphics. I'm using Intel HD 4000, so I doubt that's it. I have the computer set up in my basement with the extra cable connection and a VGA monitor. If I set it up with a HD monitor, will it then work with the VGA? I wasn't planning on viewing TV downstairs but over the network.
post #3452 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Karl Beem View Post

Well the DCA fails on graphics. I'm using Intel HD 4000, so I doubt that's it. I have the computer set up in my basement with the extra cable connection and a VGA monitor. If I set it up with a HD monitor, will it then work with the VGA? I wasn't planning on viewing TV downstairs but over the network.

I think it needs to be a digital + HDCP connection to pass the DCA - I don't believe VGA will do. Also, my laptop has HD4000 graphics, and it wouldn't pass until I upgraded the drivers, so that's worth trying.
post #3453 of 4746
I have an i5-650 PC with HD2000 that plays back LiveTV in WMC through VGA to my 22" desktop monitor. I don't remember, but it had to pass the DCA when I installed my CableCARD tuner, right?
post #3454 of 4746
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

I think it needs to be a digital + HDCP connection to pass the DCA - I don't believe VGA will do. Also, my laptop has HD4000 graphics, and it wouldn't pass until I upgraded the drivers, so that's worth trying.

I installed new Intel graphics drivers. This time the test took longer and the error msg was "Your graphics card or driver doesn't support content protection". I find it hard this hard to believe.
post #3455 of 4746
Download the DCA override at missing remote..
post #3456 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Karl Beem View Post

I installed new Intel graphics drivers. This time the test took longer and the error msg was "Your graphics card or driver doesn't support content protection". I find it hard this hard to believe.

What display are you using, and how is it connected to the PC?
post #3457 of 4746
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

What display are you using, and how is it connected to the PC?

A VGA monitor.
post #3458 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Sammy2 View Post

Download the DCA override at missing remote..

Thanks. I was able to setup the device. I called Comcast for activation and the tech said that she "validated" the card. However when I try to record I get a msg to call them again. I'll do that later.
post #3459 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Karl Beem View Post

I installed new Intel graphics drivers. This time the test took longer and the error msg was "Your graphics card or driver doesn't support content protection". I find it hard this hard to believe.



Are you saying in post # 3458 that once the cable card was pared by your cable provider that the " content protection error" went away ?
post #3460 of 4746
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Originally Posted by flocko View Post

Are you saying in post # 3458 that once the cable card was pared by your cable provider that the " content protection error" went away ?
I still can't watch downstairs - but I can now record. If I share a tuner with another Win7 box, can I record from that box?
post #3461 of 4746
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

As others have said, you're already using the output from the splitter with the least amount of loss.
If you don't think you can handle running new coax through the walls, it would still be a good idea to check if it's RG-6 or not. Cable is usually marked indicating what type it is and you should be able to get at it somewhere to check for that. Definitely make sure there's a quality RG-6 cable running from the wall plate to the Ceton.
A couple of other things you can do:
1) Temporarily bypass the splitter entirely and connect the cable that goes to your Ceton directly to the ground block that the splitter currently connects to. This will rule out any possible issues with the splitter.
2) Get a long, good quality, RG-6 cable and just run it directly from the grounding block output to your Ceton. This will rule out any possible issues with the cabling in the wall and the splitter.
3) If test 2 goes well, put the splitter back into the mix and see what happens. If you now have a good signal, you know that the cable running through the walls is the problem and you'll need to find a way to replace it.
I'd suggest doing these tests before spending money on an amp.
Premade custom length RG-6 cables with compression connectors can be purchased from places like Solid Signal.
Thanks for all the ideas, gsr.

I checked the coax lines leading from the basement splitter to the various points in the house. The one leading to the basement STB is RG-59/U, while the bedroom DVR and the family room HTPC (the problem spot) are marked RG-6/U (not sure what the "U" stands for), so we're good on that score.

For steps 1 and 2, I'll get a coupler to mate the end of the ground block to the existing/new RG-6 cable, and see what happens.

Thanks, too, for the link to the custom cables. Back-of-the envelope estimate is about 100 feet to run the coax across the basement, up the stairs, and over to the family room.

But I think I'll go ahead and also order the amp that xnappo suggested -- I'm in a race to save the HTPC before WAF drops below critical and wife banishes the machine to my cave, to be replaced by another DVR, eek.gif so I want to try all approaches as quickly as possible!
post #3462 of 4746
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Originally Posted by xnappo View Post

Yep, get the amp. The cable modem was regarding any need for upstream amplification.
xnappo
Great, thanks! I'll place the order this weekend.
post #3463 of 4746
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Originally Posted by NoMoTBCs View Post

I second the motion on the Motorola amplifier. I have one--it's great. Solved a lot of problems with low-signal-strength messages, which in my case seemed to lock up MC. It's easier and cheaper than replacing (presumably sound) RG-59 with RG-6. About 2 dB per hundred feet difference IIRC. Of course, if the RG-59 is not sound...
Also--you should use a small wrench on your type-F connectors. If the threads are not totally snugged up, it will add to the "insertion loss" of the connector, and a loose connector also allows unwanted RF onto your line. You won't notice it as much as an OTA antenna line, but no extraneous signal ever does you any good. Connectors used outdoors should have O-rings to seal out the environment.
Another good idea. Maybe I'll make this Step #0. If the problem goes away with this, then there's no need to buy anything.

The direct coax run from the basement splitter to the family room would be about 100 feet, but I guess that for test purposes that would still be better than the splitter which announces a 3.5 dB loss by itself.
post #3464 of 4746
I'm trying to share a tuner on my network. I choose one - then it says this may take awhile and you may lose connectivity. After a few seconds, the machine freezes. I restart a half hour later and the machine is stalled at the 'Starting Windows' screen, the blue ceton light madly blinking. I eventually have to remiove the entire card to get the machine to boot. What's going on?
post #3465 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Karl Beem View Post

I'm trying to share a tuner on my network. I choose one - then it says this may take awhile and you may lose connectivity. After a few seconds, the machine freezes. I restart a half hour later and the machine is stalled at the 'Starting Windows' screen, the blue ceton light madly blinking. I eventually have to remiove the entire card to get the machine to boot. What's going on?

I pulled the ceton out and the box boots, but no network. I found the network bridge in adapter settings which was obtaining an IP addr auto. My network doesn't have a DHCP server, I use the other method. Upon setting the bridge settings to the proper settings, the network access was back. I replaced the ceton in the machine, and again the machine stalls at 'Starting Windows'. An hour later, no change.
post #3466 of 4746
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Originally Posted by joutlaw View Post

I noticed I was unable to get a few channels the other day. I went to the diagnostic tool and tried to tune those stations and it said "not found in channel list or signal too poor".
The next thing I tried was to clear the channel map. I seem to be having issues getting a channel map update. I noticed that I had 394 channels, but my channel map entry was 0. I hit the clear channel map button on the channel list and channel map both go to 0.
At that point in the logs, it seems I never get the update. It says the flash is locked:
Jan 1 00:21:28 ocur[21]: ocur: ocur_presentation_get_info:489 : Clearing channel map
Jan 1 00:21:28 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_cm_CacheNewChannelMap:842 ERROR: Could not open flash channel map file for writing
Jan 1 00:21:28 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_hal_hal_pcmcia_reset_posted:2043 : Card reset
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_hal_hal_pcmcia_reset_done_posted:2059 : Card reset done
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: ocur: cas_SetCardMessage:999 : SetCardMessage = (null)
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[0]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[1]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[2]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:29 ocur[21]: upnp: Event(cas[3]): CardMessage, ""
Jan 1 00:21:36 ocur[21]: cyrano: dri_driEventListener:920 WARNING: No callback for dri event 00400000
Jan 1 00:21:38 ocur[21]: libcetontune: mxl241sf_cetontune_get_oob_locked:1319 : override oob lock (sl 4.250000 snr 11.581000)
I have no channels until I reboot the PC and then there is an entry that 394 channels were loaded from the flash.
What would cause the channel map update to fail? It sounds to be me like an issue with CableCard, but want to make sure. This is at least my 4th CableCard from Comcast.

I replaced my CableCard, but still get this error when I try to clear my channel map. Any suggestions?
post #3467 of 4746
How can I find the Digital Cable Advisor for 32bit systems. I can only find x64.
post #3468 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Karl Beem View Post

I pulled the ceton out and the box boots, but no network. I found the network bridge in adapter settings which was obtaining an IP addr auto. My network doesn't have a DHCP server, I use the other method. Upon setting the bridge settings to the proper settings, the network access was back. I replaced the ceton in the machine, and again the machine stalls at 'Starting Windows'. An hour later, no change.

Uninstalling the Ceton software doesn't help. I restored Win7 to before I started this. When I replace the ceton its blue light blinks madly. The ceton sw cannot detect the tuners. Is it dead?
post #3469 of 4746
Since moving my system has sucked, Atm if I restart or shutdown my computer WMC no longer works and will not tune channels. I have a ticket in currently. I don't know what has gone wrong or is different with my service/setup I changed nothing on my end. I am stuck with Cable One and use to have Comcast but it is not available here. Any ideas why restarting/shutdown causes the Tuner setup in wmc to crap it's pants? Btw everything worked flawlessly before the move including network tuner sharing. I don't even want to attempt that right now with this horrible problem...

Thanks
post #3470 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Karl Beem View Post

Uninstalling the Ceton software doesn't help. I restored Win7 to before I started this. When I replace the ceton its blue light blinks madly. The ceton sw cannot detect the tuners. Is it dead?
clear your network and tuner settings in the diagnostic tool the old settings are still on the card.

If your not using DHCP on your network, you need to assign the card an IP on your subnet by going to the cards web page, then run the tuner network sharing tool again, you want to select the manual setup, this will maintain your static IP, other wise the system will over ride the settings, and make it a DHCP client, repeat on all your systems.
Edited by dbailey75 - 8/26/12 at 6:47pm
post #3471 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Cheatdeath View Post

Since moving my system has sucked, Atm if I restart or shutdown my computer WMC no longer works and will not tune channels. I have a ticket in currently. I don't know what has gone wrong or is different with my service/setup I changed nothing on my end. I am stuck with Cable One and use to have Comcast but it is not available here. Any ideas why restarting/shutdown causes the Tuner setup in wmc to crap it's pants? Btw everything worked flawlessly before the move including network tuner sharing. I don't even want to attempt that right now with this horrible problem...
Thanks

Did you go through the TV signal setup again with your new provider? This will impact your channels/Guide data if MCE still thinks your on Comcast.
post #3472 of 4746
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Originally Posted by xnappo View Post

Hi Eric,
Really not trying to cause trouble -- but after the hot fixes didn't work for me either I was issued the beta. Maybe it was not intended to fix the slow tuning problem - but it certainly does (at least with my TWC/SDV setup). I am seeing the same result at tgrinch - tuning time is at LEAST 3x faster. I will need to run for a few more days to be sure the false 'signal not available' is cleaned up, but so far so good.
xnappo
PS. All - please do not PM me about the beta - I am not sending it to anyone. If you are having this problem, submit a ticket. Install the hotfix on the support site first and make sure that doesn't help.

Made it through my Sunday night torture test without any hint of false 'signal not available' issues. I can say with pretty high confidence now that the beta firmware fixed this problem for me.

xnappo
post #3473 of 4746
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Originally Posted by dbailey75 View Post

clear your network and tuner settings in the diagnostic tool the old settings are still on the card.
If your not using DHCP on your network, you need to assign the card an IP on your subnet by going to the cards web page, then run the tuner network sharing tool again, you want to select the manual setup, this will maintain your static IP, other wise the system will over ride the settings, and make it a DHCP client, repeat on all your systems.

Ok, that works, up until MCE creates a bridge, then it's adios. The system completely locks up. Going in and setting the ceton adapter to supports bridge = Yes also locks it up. Yes, I did the manual setup in MCE, clicked next and bye-bye. It looks like I'll RMA the card.
post #3474 of 4746
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Originally Posted by dbailey75 View Post

Did you go through the TV signal setup again with your new provider? This will impact your channels/Guide data if MCE still thinks your on Comcast.

Yes everything was reset including a full clean install of win 7. I am getting my channels and everything works fine but not after a restart or shutdown of the PC. I have to go through the entire TV setup again after any restart or shutdown and that is horrible. When I attempt to tune a channel it not only wont tune WMC locks up and stops responding... I am lost on what is going on and never had these issues in the past.
Edited by Cheatdeath - 8/27/12 at 12:07pm
post #3475 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Karl Beem View Post

Ok, that works, up until MCE creates a bridge, then it's adios. The system completely locks up. Going in and setting the ceton adapter to supports bridge = Yes also locks it up. Yes, I did the manual setup in MCE, clicked next and bye-bye. It looks like I'll RMA the card.

Sounds like your only option, system shouldn't lockup like that, but it's interesting that it locks up media center, you would think MCE would either find the card, or not find the card, and keep humming along.
post #3476 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Cheatdeath View Post

Yes everything was reset including a full clean install of win 7. I am getting my channels and everything works fine but not after a restart or shutdown of the PC. I have to go through the entire TV setup again after any restart or shutdown and that is horrible. When I attempt to tune a channel it not only wont tune WMC locks up and stops responding... I am lost on what is going on and never had these issues in the past.

That Blows, work with Ceton tech support, maybe you have some bad flash on the tuners, or maybe a bad M-card.

Sucks to have these issues, and not having spares to help isolate the problem. Is it the card, the PC, Mcard? Very frustrating I'm sure.
post #3477 of 4746
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Originally Posted by dbailey75 View Post

That Blows, work with Ceton tech support, maybe you have some bad flash on the tuners, or maybe a bad M-card.
Sucks to have these issues, and not having spares to help isolate the problem. Is it the card, the PC, Mcard? Very frustrating I'm sure.

Yes it is very frustrating sigh. I hope the logs will help Ceton figure out what is up. If I can't get this working im probably going to look into dish. The cable here is not very amazing channel wise only thing keeping me interested is my Ceton Tuner and Network Tuner features.
post #3478 of 4746
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Originally Posted by Cheatdeath View Post

Yes it is very frustrating sigh. I hope the logs will help Ceton figure out what is up. If I can't get this working im probably going to look into dish. The cable here is not very amazing channel wise only thing keeping me interested is my Ceton Tuner and Network Tuner features.
If you haven't already, open a ticket and we will help out
post #3479 of 4746
What ever happened to the InfiniTV 6 Tuner PCI, is this product still in development, or has it been dropped and replaced with the Q? I need one more tuner, and to do so with the current options, would require that I rent a second MCard, my first was free, and the last thing I want to do is give Comcast any more money, considering the MCard supports up to 6 streams, well, I need a device to get all 6 streams. I would also need another tuner, so I'm holding out for the InfiniTV 6, otherwise, I may give the HD Home run a try, because of the dynamic tuner sharing, but I'm in no rush, was just looking for an update.

The Q is nice, but I'm not sure it will completely replaced my HTPC.
post #3480 of 4746
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Originally Posted by dbailey75 View Post

What ever happened to the InfiniTV 6 Tuner PCI, is this product still in development, or has it been dropped and replaced with the Q? I need one more tuner, and to do so with the current options, would require that I rent a second MCard, my first was free, and the last thing I want to do is give Comcast any more money, considering the MCard supports up to 6 streams, well, I need a device to get all 6 streams. I would also need another tuner, so I'm holding out for the InfiniTV 6, otherwise, I may give the HD Home run a try, because of the dynamic tuner sharing, but I'm in no rush, was just looking for an update.
The Q is nice, but I'm not sure it will completely replaced my HTPC.

I am curious if you have considered getting a non-cable card HD homerun? You can specify it to only get used for non-encrypted channels. I know in my household, that would be sufficient as 50% of our viewing is clearQAM. Very cost effective solution to get another two tuners.

xnappo
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