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post #3841 of 4515
11/20/12 at 9:04am
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

Are you using the router supplied by Verizon? If so, you'll need a low pass filter. Here's the excerpt from the InfiniTV4 setup procedures:
I had the same issue as you described before I picked up a low pass filter from Solid Signal. You may be able to request one from Verizon.

Last time I had FiOS tech over, I asked him about the low pass filter, and he showed me that it is actually installed in the ONT. I have my router connected via Eithernet to ONT. I would imagine people who have the router connected via Coax to the ONT don't have the filter in place.
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post #3842 of 4515
11/20/12 at 9:22am
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Originally Posted by blueiedgod View Post

Last time I had FiOS tech over, I asked him about the low pass filter, and he showed me that it is actually installed in the ONT. I have my router connected via Eithernet to ONT. I would imagine people who have the router connected via Coax to the ONT don't have the filter in place.
If you are using Coax and not Ethernet, you don't have the filter
If you are using any STBs from Verizon, you need the filter
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post #3843 of 4515
11/20/12 at 9:40am
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CBS decided not to air new episodes because a lot of people were without power...
Thanks.
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post #3844 of 4515
11/21/12 at 4:53am
I wonder if anyone else has seen this issue with their HTPC setup...

Now, I should say I am running Win8 Pro / WMC. Since this OS isn't supported just yet, I understand if this is somehow related to the software.

Whenever I turn off the TV then back on and leave the HTPC running (I leave the HTPC on all the time, no sleep, no screen off, no S1 or S3), I get a "channel not authorized" error on anything encrypted (ESPN, TNT, TBS, etc.). I can watch any of the usual national channels without an issue.

To get back my other channels, I only have to exit WMC by going to settings, close, then re-open WMC. My wife and I have gotten pretty quick about this so it doesn't bother us much anymore, but I would love to know if there is something I can do to help rid myself of this error.

I go directly in to my TV via HDMI... no AVR.

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post #3845 of 4515
11/21/12 at 12:50pm
ok, I plan on building a Dedicated Tuner box once i finish re-wiring Coax and Romex in my house.

Question though:
is there a way to limit how many tuners / recordings one Echo/Extender can use?

cuz i dont want one person recording all 4 tuners and basically locking out other extenders.
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post #3846 of 4515
11/21/12 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by snappjay View Post

Whenever I turn off the TV then back on and leave the HTPC running (I leave the HTPC on all the time, no sleep, no screen off, no S1 or S3), I get a "channel not authorized" error on anything encrypted (ESPN, TNT, TBS, etc.). I can watch any of the usual national channels without an issue.
To get back my other channels, I only have to exit WMC by going to settings, close, then re-open WMC. My wife and I have gotten pretty quick about this so it doesn't bother us much anymore, but I would love to know if there is something I can do to help rid myself of this error.
HDMI Detective would probably do the trick.
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post #3847 of 4515
11/21/12 at 9:36pm
I just setup my InfiniTV4 tonight.. it was super easy and works great so far.

I have the InfiniTV4 being hosted in my WHS 2011 box, then I just used the network bridge to bind it with my NIC so it is distributed across the network to my 4 HTPC's. Installed the Ceton Network Tuner software on the HTPC's and it only took a few seconds for all the channels and guide to load. smile.gif
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post #3848 of 4515
11/22/12 at 5:47am
turns out MS is stiffing Ceton because they are making their own Set Top Box.
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post #3849 of 4515
11/22/12 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

turns out MS is stiffing Ceton because they are making their own Set Top Box.

Got any sources on this. It would be a good thing in a way if it's true. Not good for Ceton unfortunately. For us though there would be another extender, and hopefully that means they plan on keeping and supporting Media Center.
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post #3850 of 4515
11/22/12 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by duff99 View Post

Got any sources on this. It would be a good thing in a way if it's true. Not good for Ceton unfortunately. For us though there would be another extender, and hopefully that means they plan on keeping and supporting Media Center.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/21/rumor-xbox-tv/


Happy T-day.
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post #3851 of 4515
11/22/12 at 1:31pm
The famous egg has a black friday deal on the Infinitv 4 for $149.99 with free shipping. Heck of a deal! Half of what I payed for mine, considering ordering one to resolve all recording conflics.
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post #3852 of 4515
11/22/12 at 3:03pm
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/21/rumor-xbox-tv/
Happy T-day.

Thanks, and a happy Thanksgiving to you also.
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post #3853 of 4515
11/22/12 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by RedChevy79 View Post

The famous egg has a black friday deal on the Infinitv 4 for $149.99 with free shipping. Heck of a deal! Half of what I payed for mine, considering ordering one to resolve all recording conflics.

Yeah, same here 300 clams, but think of the cash we saved turning in our STB many months ago, lol, but yeat that's a good deal.
Edited by dbailey75 - 11/22/12 at 4:37pm
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post #3854 of 4515
11/22/12 at 5:57pm
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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

turns out MS is stiffing Ceton because they are making their own Set Top Box.
If it doesn't have Cablecard tuners, it's not a true STB as we know it - it's another attempt to do Apple TV with internet streaming, and there are already plenty of boxes to do that.

And there's no way I can see an Xbox 720 with tuners, so I'm scratching my head as to what they're up to.
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post #3855 of 4515
11/23/12 at 5:27am
Ceton tuners are $150~ on Newegg for Black Friday. (edit: didnt see post above, meant to post yesterday, but i fell asleep.)


will dig for more details on MS Settop Box (which is separate from the Xbox Brand hardware).
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post #3856 of 4515
11/23/12 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

Ceton tuners are $150~ on Newegg for Black Friday. (edit: didnt see post above, meant to post yesterday, but i fell asleep.)
will dig for more details on MS Settop Box (which is separate from the Xbox Brand hardware).

Damn AVS Forum. I picked one of these up...now what? rolleyes.gif

Seriously, I have an old Dell 560S computer (~4 years old) with Windows XP on it, and I was thinking to turn that computer into a Media Center laboratory to start getting my feet wet. I would need to get a PCI-E video card with an HDMI port. Do you all think that would work? I can't remember the chip in the PC, but I would guess it is a Pentium processor.

Thanks for any input.

Mark
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post #3857 of 4515
11/24/12 at 9:08am
you prolly got a Core2 xxxxxxx

you have to have a HDMI HDCP Capable GPU, so even the 90 buck cheap , low profile ones will work.
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post #3858 of 4515
11/24/12 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by SkateZilla View Post

you prolly got a Core2 xxxxxxx
you have to have a HDMI HDCP Capable GPU, so even the 90 buck cheap , low profile ones will work.
A 50 (or less) dollar low profile card will do fine too, like Radeon 6450. Don't know which Nvidia cards work well.
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post #3859 of 4515
11/24/12 at 9:43pm
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Originally Posted by robnitro View Post

A 50 (or less) dollar low profile card will do fine too, like Radeon 6450. Don't know which Nvidia cards work well.
My HTPC at home has a Radeon HD4550 that was something like $10 after rebate
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post #3860 of 4515
11/25/12 at 5:19am
I researched the old PC yesterday, and am thinking it is not worth it to upgrade (see specs below), as I would need to buy RAM (~ $100 for 4MB) and a video card; I have bigger hard drives already.

What I would really like to do is to build a combination NAS / Media PC, and get rid of my two Netgear ReadyNAS boxes, but I don't know if it makes sense or is possible to do. In this scenario, I would want to install at least 8 of the drives from the NAS devices into the case, and I see there are cases out there to support that. I have Macs in the house, so also need AFP support for those, and it looks like WHS will not do that natively from my brief research yesterday.

Whatever PC the Ceton card goes into will be outside my HT in the basement, and the HDMI cable and any necessary IR extension cables would run through conduit into my rack area, and then into my HDMI distribution system serving three display devices. So that means I do not require a nice looking or super-quiet HTPC case.

Last, to provide me with the same functionality as the Moxi / Mate system I currently have, I would only need one extender in the Master bedroom.

I guess I need to do some research on the appropriate path forward. Any input would be appreciated.

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post #3861 of 4515
11/25/12 at 7:24am
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I have Macs in the house, so also need AFP support for those, and it looks like WHS will not do that natively from my brief research yesterday.
You may find this discussion useful.
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Whatever PC the Ceton card goes into will be outside my HT in the basement, and the HDMI cable and any necessary IR extension cables would run through conduit into my rack area, and then into my HDMI distribution system serving three display devices. So that means I do not require a nice looking or super-quiet HTPC case.
Though they aren't cheap, take a look a the HDBase-T HDMI extender options (Transformative Engineering's HD-1 and HL-1 are excellent examples that I have used with absolutely no issues) as many of them will handle extending HDMI as well as carrying IR, RS-232 or USB, and 10/100 network all from 1 CAT5 or CAT6 cable. For cases, take a look at the Norco rack mount cases - they've got models that can handle up to 24 hot swap SATA drives at somewhat reasonable prices.
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Last, to provide me with the same functionality as the Moxi / Mate system I currently have, I would only need one extender in the Master bedroom.
I guess I need to do some research on the appropriate path forward. Any input would be appreciated.
Once the kinks are worked out, Ceton's Echo would probably be a great option for this.
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post #3862 of 4515
11/25/12 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

You may find this discussion useful.
Though they aren't cheap, take a look a the HDBase-T HDMI extender options (Transformative Engineering's HD-1 and HL-1 are excellent examples that I have used with absolutely no issues) as many of them will handle extending HDMI as well as carrying IR, RS-232 or USB, and 10/100 network all from 1 CAT5 or CAT6 cable. For cases, take a look at the Norco rack mount cases - they've got models that can handle up to 24 hot swap SATA drives at somewhat reasonable prices.
Once the kinks are worked out, Ceton's Echo would probably be a great option for this.

Thanks for the information. I was looking at HDMI extenders for possibly brining HDMI to the second floor, but it did not pan out. With the application for this Ceton card project, I have 1" Carlon conduit (aka smurf tube) where I can just feed through the HDMI and Cat 5e / Cat 6 cables I need for video, IR control, and ethernet. The HDMI cable I would need (Blue Jeans Belden Series) is $117 - $148, depending on the length I need. How much do those Transformative Engineering HDBase-T kits cost?

Mark
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post #3863 of 4515
11/25/12 at 12:35pm
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I researched the old PC yesterday, and am thinking it is not worth it to upgrade (see specs below), as I would need to buy RAM (~ $100 for 4MB) and a video card; I have bigger hard drives already.
What I would really like to do is to build a combination NAS / Media PC, and get rid of my two Netgear ReadyNAS boxes, but I don't know if it makes sense or is possible to do. In this scenario, I would want to install at least 8 of the drives from the NAS devices into the case, and I see there are cases out there to support that. I have Macs in the house, so also need AFP support for those, and it looks like WHS will not do that natively from my brief research yesterday.
Whatever PC the Ceton card goes into will be outside my HT in the basement, and the HDMI cable and any necessary IR extension cables would run through conduit into my rack area, and then into my HDMI distribution system serving three display devices. So that means I do not require a nice looking or super-quiet HTPC case.
Last, to provide me with the same functionality as the Moxi / Mate system I currently have, I would only need one extender in the Master bedroom.
I guess I need to do some research on the appropriate path forward. Any input would be appreciated.
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I thinking about this a little more, if the old PC did not pan out, the only component I cannot re-utilize is the RAM, so I would only be out the $100. The Ceton card, the video card, and any software (Windows 7?) can be put in another PC. So, maybe this is not a bad way to start out. That said, do I need Windows 7, or can I use XP? What is a good video card that will not give me any HDMI problems; I already have enough of those! eek.gif

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post #3864 of 4515
11/25/12 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

I thinking about this a little more, if the old PC did not pan out, the only component I cannot re-utilize is the RAM, so I would only be out the $100. The Ceton card, the video card, and any software (Windows 7?) can be put in another PC. So, maybe this is not a bad way to start out. That said, do I need Windows 7, or can I use XP? What is a good video card that will not give me any HDMI problems; I already have enough of those! eek.gif
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You need Windows 7. Windows XP does not support CableCARD tuners.
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post #3865 of 4515
11/25/12 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by giomania View Post

Thanks for the information. I was looking at HDMI extenders for possibly brining HDMI to the second floor, but it did not pan out. With the application for this Ceton card project, I have 1" Carlon conduit (aka smurf tube) where I can just feed through the HDMI and Cat 5e / Cat 6 cables I need for video, IR control, and ethernet. The HDMI cable I would need (Blue Jeans Belden Series) is $117 - $148, depending on the length I need. How much do those Transformative Engineering HDBase-T kits cost?
Mark
HDBase-T extenders are not going to be the inexpensive option - the Transformative Engineering HD-1's cost ~$600 when I bought mine a bit over a year ago (other brands are also using HDBase-T, so less expensive options are probably available). But it's a very robust solution that works up to 330 feet away and can handle the cable being terminated at wall plates with jumper cables being used between the wall plates and the transmitter / receiver and it's really nice having EVERYTHING handled over a single CAT5e or CAT6 cable even if you have a conduit handy. I'm not sure what length cable you need (though based on Blue Jeans pricing, I'm guessing around 35-40 feet), but I'd be very hesitant to count on anything over 15 feet or so working reliably unless it's an active cable. Also keep in mind that those BJC Series-1 Belden Bonded cables are thick and pretty difficult to work with.
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post #3866 of 4515
11/25/12 at 6:18pm
OK, I have two Ceton USB cards. One started to lose network connection well before I got the second one. Now the first won't get an IP address no matter what I do. I have restarted the PC many times and use to get the tuner to respond by powering down and powering back up.. I tried to repair the Ceton firmware install software. No matter what I do, nothing. Before I open a ticket with Ceton, can anyone here suggest any quick advice? I am at a loss.
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post #3867 of 4515
11/25/12 at 6:52pm
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Originally Posted by SeattleHTGuy View Post

OK, I have two Ceton USB cards. One started to lose network connection well before I got the second one. Now the first won't get an IP address no matter what I do. I have restarted the PC many times and use to get the tuner to respond by powering down and powering back up.. I tried to repair the Ceton firmware install software. No matter what I do, nothing. Before I open a ticket with Ceton, can anyone here suggest any quick advice? I am at a loss.

Try running the reset network settings in the InfiniTV Diag utility. Also what color is the LED on the InfiniTV?
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post #3868 of 4515
11/25/12 at 7:11pm
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Originally Posted by erickotz View Post

Try running the reset network settings in the InfiniTV Diag utility. Also what color is the LED on the InfiniTV?

Light is solid blue. Tried to reset network connection. Popped up message. "Failed to reset Contact Ceton Customer Support" Should I try a complete reinstall of the Ceton program that does all the initial setup or should I power down the PC and try again?
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post #3869 of 4515
11/25/12 at 7:21pm
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Originally Posted by gsr View Post

HDBase-T extenders are not going to be the inexpensive option - the Transformative Engineering HD-1's cost ~$600 when I bought mine a bit over a year ago (other brands are also using HDBase-T, so less expensive options are probably available). But it's a very robust solution that works up to 330 feet away and can handle the cable being terminated at wall plates with jumper cables being used between the wall plates and the transmitter / receiver and it's really nice having EVERYTHING handled over a single CAT5e or CAT6 cable even if you have a conduit handy. I'm not sure what length cable you need (though based on Blue Jeans pricing, I'm guessing around 35-40 feet), but I'd be very hesitant to count on anything over 15 feet or so working reliably unless it's an active cable. Also keep in mind that those BJC Series-1 Belden Bonded cables are thick and pretty difficult to work with.

The price of the HD-1 is as I suspected, but all the good HDBase-T extenders are expensive, but they work. I have a 45-foot Blue Jeans Belden Series HDMI cable from my equipment rack to the family room, and it has been working fine for the last three years, so I am not worried about using a long version of those HDMI cables. It was a bit tough to get that cable through the conduit (several turns in it), but greasing it helped a lot!

Thanks for the input.

Mark
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post #3870 of 4515
11/26/12 at 9:20am
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815706001

Free shipping and only $149.00 If I already didn't have two, I would pick up another one.
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