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post #4081 of 4757
I have a question about cable cards.

If you record a show... can you play if back on another machine?

Example: If I had this card in my HTPC and recorded a show. Then put that show on my laptop to watch on a plane ride- does it play fine? Or is there playback issues due to copy protection ?
post #4082 of 4757
Asked and answered: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1452625/novice-tv-tuner-question#post_22845616

You can only view copy protected recordings on the machine that recorded it or on extenders like the XBox or the Ceton Echo.
post #4083 of 4757
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Originally Posted by th3Pil0t View Post

Awesome wife.

Now lets not go crazy or anything!
post #4084 of 4757
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Originally Posted by ncarty97 View Post

Now lets not go crazy or anything!

No, he is right. Your wife actually fixed the problem rather than simply blame you for it. That is the basic definition of an awesome wife! Make sure you not only tell her, but show her these posts, she deserves to know she is awesome. smile.gif
post #4085 of 4757
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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

No, he is right. Your wife actually fixed the problem rather than simply blame you for it. That is the basic definition of an awesome wife! Make sure you not only tell her, but show her these posts, she deserves to know she is awesome. smile.gif
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I'm surprised she was able to MacGyver a fix to a broken off RF connector with superglue. Pretty handy really.
post #4086 of 4757
You 'll be surprised what they will do when they want something. Her soaps were on and she'll be damned if she isn't watching them tongue.gif
post #4087 of 4757
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Originally Posted by th3Pil0t View Post

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Originally Posted by cybrsage View Post

No, he is right. Your wife actually fixed the problem rather than simply blame you for it. That is the basic definition of an awesome wife! Make sure you not only tell her, but show her these posts, she deserves to know she is awesome. smile.gif
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I'm surprised she was able to MacGyver a fix to a broken off RF connector with superglue. Pretty handy really.

We're rednecks. If it can't be fixed with duct tape or krazy glue, it can't be fixed
Edited by ncarty97 - 1/19/13 at 7:34am
post #4088 of 4757
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

I have a question about cable cards.

If you record a show... can you play if back on another machine?

Example: If I had this card in my HTPC and recorded a show. Then put that show on my laptop to watch on a plane ride- does it play fine? Or is there playback issues due to copy protection ?
That all depends on your provider. If the show is flagged as copy freely then yes, you can record it on your HTPC and play it back anywhere. If it's flagged as copy once then you can only play it back on the PC that recorded it. You can, however, use an extender connected to the recording PC via your network and play it back on another TV.

Most cable systems seem to be flagging their content as copy once these days. FIOS is one of the few exceptions that still has most channels flagged as copy freely, except for the premium channels.
post #4089 of 4757
Anyway to
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Originally Posted by captain_video View Post

That all depends on your provider. If the show is flagged as copy freely then yes, you can record it on your HTPC and play it back anywhere. If it's flagged as copy once then you can only play it back on the PC that recorded it. You can, however, use an extender connected to the recording PC via your network and play it back on another TV.

Most cable systems seem to be flagging their content as copy once these days. FIOS is one of the few exceptions that still has most channels flagged as copy freely, except for the premium channels.

How would I know what Comcast flags in my area ?
post #4090 of 4757
Usually if you have a box, there are diagnostic screens that will list the cci value but some make it difficult to change channels while in the diagnostics mode so it can take awhile. Generally comcast only flags premiums.
post #4091 of 4757
If you're on Comcast only the movie channels will be protected.
post #4092 of 4757
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

Anyway to


How would I know what Comcast flags in my area ?

If the recording is protected, WMC will say so down in the bottom of the info screen of the recording.
post #4093 of 4757
Has anyone ever had a CableCARD go bad? It looks like mine crapped out on me. I've seen the "Subscription Required" message before but usually a full shut down and cold boot fixes it, and if that doesn't do it running the PlayReady update does. Neither worked this time. I opened up the diagnostic tool and clicked the CableCARD tab.



I checked the device webpage. On the CableCARD tab it showed - Card Authorization: Card is busy with binding authentication process

I did a live chat help session with Verizon. I actually got someone who knew what a CableCARD was. I gave him all the details and he tried to remotely reset the CableCARD. That didn't get it going again. After refreshing the device webpage I got a new error in the Card Message block. It said "A technical problem is preventing you from receiving all cable services at this time. Please call your cable operator and report error code 161-11 to have this problem resolved." I did pull the card out and reinsert it so maybe I caused that one. My bad. I relayed the error message to the service rep anyway and he tried deactivating and reactivating the CableCARD again. That didn't work either so they are shipping out a new card by UPS with a return label for the old card. I hope that fixes it.
post #4094 of 4757
Are you sure you didn't put the card in upside down? I did at 1st,Its easy to do. You might want to try another pci-e slot also if you haven't.
post #4095 of 4757
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Originally Posted by Goat1 View Post

Are you sure you didn't put the card in upside down? I did at 1st,Its easy to do. You might want to try another pci-e slot also if you haven't.
Thanks, but it's not upside down. It was working just fine for several months with only the occasional hiccup that others have seen, then it just quit. I can get my local clear QAM channels with the CableCARD removed so I think the PCIe slot is OK.
post #4096 of 4757
I'm pretty sure the new card will fix the problem. Sounds like the tv card is fine..
post #4097 of 4757
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Originally Posted by Ken.F View Post

Has anyone ever had a CableCARD go bad?
Yes, I had one that would reboot every couple of hours. I took it back to the provider and exchanged it for another. I had to replace that one as well. When I talked with Ceton, they said that the worst case reported to them was something like 10 bad cards in a row. Apparently the cable companies just put them back into circulation without testing them, or at least not testing them well.

If you haven't done so already, I recommend opening a ticket with Ceton and sending them the diagnostics from your InfiniTV. They can help diagnose if the problem is with your cablecard.
post #4098 of 4757
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Originally Posted by P Seastrand View Post

If you haven't done so already, I recommend opening a ticket with Ceton and sending them the diagnostics from your InfiniTV. They can help diagnose if the problem is with your cablecard.

I already have a replacement card on the way. If that doesn't fix the problem I'll open a ticket with Ceton.
post #4099 of 4757
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

If you're on Comcast only the movie channels will be protected.

I 2nd this, Atlanta area, I don't have the premium movie channels (HBO, Showtime, etc) , but in my package only encore is flagged as copy once.
post #4100 of 4757
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Originally Posted by slowbiscuit View Post

If you're on Comcast only the movie channels will be protected.

So like HBO ??

Or cable channels like USA or TNT ?
post #4101 of 4757
On Charter the Premiums, such as HBO, and everything more than expanded basic is flagged, mostly..
post #4102 of 4757
Update: I got my replacement CableCARD today. I did the online CableCARD activation and it appeared to work. At least the activation website said that it did. I can watch everything except my premium channels now. I couldn't watch any channels with the CableCARD inserted before so at least I know the old CableCARD was bad and the tuner is OK. The InfiniTV diagnostic tool says my card hasn't received a validation signal so I did another online chat with FiOS support. The guy I talked to this time didn't seem very familiar with CableCARDs. I told him I needed a CCV signal sent to the card. He wanted me to pull the CableCARD out, so I did. Then he told me to turn my device off and put the card back in. I had to explain to him that my device was my computer and I couldn't continue the chat session if I turned the computer off. He told me to insert the card without turning the computer off and check my channels again. I did that and they still weren't working. He politely told me he was not able to resolve the issue and I should call the Activation Service as they would be in a better position to assist. OK, fair enough. I'll have to call them tomorrow after work. I have too many recordings going on to do any more tonight. smile.gif
post #4103 of 4757
Did installation of the beta drivers and firmware cause the Diagnostic tool to not detect Infinitv? I've now reinstalled 3 times and can't get the card recognized as installed, much less actually watch tv. I'm starting to get depressed that I'll just have to throw this thing out of the window and get a cable box. Too much drama for something that should be plug and play.
post #4104 of 4757
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Originally Posted by Mfusick View Post

So like HBO ??

Or cable channels like USA or TNT ?

Premiums and movie channels, not general cable. HBO/SHO/MAX/Starz/TMC + Encores, Movieplex, Flix etc. Everything else should be unprotected on Comcast.
post #4105 of 4757
would it record local stations without a cable card ???? Or does it need a card to work ?
post #4106 of 4757
I think erkotz or someone said that it can tune Clear QAM channels without a cable card
post #4107 of 4757
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Originally Posted by rc05 View Post

I think erkotz or someone said that it can tune Clear QAM channels without a cable card

Yep. I will report after my recent problem with my card they replaced it and I am back up and running no thanks to TWC (45 minutes of wait time and being "Transferred".)

Everything loud and clear now!
post #4108 of 4757
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Originally Posted by rc05 View Post

I think erkotz or someone said that it can tune Clear QAM channels without a cable card

Thanks!
post #4109 of 4757
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Originally Posted by rc05 View Post

I think erkotz or someone said that it can tune Clear QAM channels without a cable card

My InfiniTV 4 PCIe worked as a Clear QAM tuner when I pulled my dead CableCARD out but I had a good CableCARD for the initial setup. There may be difficulties if you don't have a CableCARD during setup. More info here.
post #4110 of 4757
I'm not sure this is the correct Forum for posting a rather basic tech problem with the Ceton.

I am a long time user of this product, who has grown very tired with its spotty, unreliable performance, and Ceton's...ahem... less than ideal customer support.


Is this the proper thread for some support love from the consistently VERY knowledgeable people resident here on AVS?

If not, please direct me to the proper thread.


Thanks.
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