Any thoughts on axiom audio speakers?

Originally Posted by Audiophile34

Lol I love my monitors. Not as flashy as the studios, but everyone who hears them is just as impressed as I.
I am glad I could help, I just do not want someone wasting there, (in my case at least) hard earned money.
But I cannot take full credit for the link, I found it in a post by fellow AVSer mojomike. So he should get props!

Originally Posted by BillCinLR

As with everything else on the web .... opinions vary.

It just depends on the weight that you give the few opinions given here versus many satisfied actual OWNERS:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...ighlight=axiom

In the end it's all up to YOUR ears in your listening environment and AXIOM has a 30 day return policy.

Bill C

Originally Posted by avs markie

Audioholics (I think it was Tom Andy doing the review) said that Emotiva's erd-1 surrounds were much better sounding than the qs8's but I can't find the specific article where he said that now. The erd's are also about $400 per pair, vs I think $550 for the qs8s.

Originally Posted by John1400

I was always interested in the fact that Axiom owners stated that Axioms were comparable with the Paradigm Studio line.
I recently went from the Monitor line to the Studio line and I fell in love with the studio's the first time I heard them. I've now completed my home theatre system with the Studio line and was thinking about running a pair of bookshelves in another room with a stereo receiver. Not being a rich man I decided to give the Axioms a try. So I ended up ordering a pair of M3's as I thought they would compare to the Studio 20's. It says on the Axiom site that they recommend the M3's if you are not running a sub. I bought a Cambridge Audio stereo receiver for my secondary system in another room. My Axioms arrived on Friday and I was anxious to get them hooked up and listen to them.
Anyway, I took them out of the box and I thought they are not too bad looking, obviously not compared with the Studio 20's, but not bad.
There is a major weight difference between the Studio's and the Axioms, 12.7 lbs. for the Axioms versus 24 lbs for the Paradigm. That is a big difference.
I hooked them up in my livingroom so I could compare them side by side with the Studio 20's ( Picture attached), I started playing the Axiom first which were set as B speakers. I played a couple of songs, and I thought not too bad. Then I made the mistake of hitting the A button, wow, what a difference, they were no where near comparable, you could do a sighted test a blind test, wouldn't matter, no way Axioms could beat Paradigm. I then thought maybe I needed a second opinion, and asked the wife to listen to both. Her response was "I told you not to buy into the hype". I asked her what she thought we should do at this point and she said send them back and get another pair of Studio's for the secondary system.
I sent them back Monday, the following Thursday I went to my local retailer and ended up purchasing the Studio 10's. It was easily the right move.
The M3's really sounded like they had a blanket over them. I am not sure how to explain the bass, it was there, but very weak. The Paradigm definately have some oomph to them.
It really goes to show you when you compare something side by side in your own home you really hear the truth.
Anyway, I am not here to put down Axiom, just giving my opinion. If you find my comments negative toward the Axioms, it is only negative when in comparison to the Studio's.
I have never paid full price for my Paradigm products from my local retailer, but I did have to ask myself if it is worth the extra money for the Studio's, the easy answer for my is absolutely yes, worth every extra penny.
My wife still calls me an dumbass for buying into the "similarly good" premise. To sum it up, I love my Paradigm Studio's and I learned a lesson.
Once you find the perfect speaker for you, stop looking!

Originally Posted by cschang

The M3 is not comparable to the Studio 20. If you read the forums, it is the M22 that has been compared to older Studio 20s. The M3 and M22 are completely different animals.

Originally Posted by John1400

I know most speaker manufacturers try to keep the same signature of sound across the board through each line.
So it really makes no sense to me that a manufacturer would make one speaker out of a line sound so much different than the rest.
That is not good for timber matching.
I am sure some people would like to use M3's as surround speakers. And again the Axoim site itself did say that M3 was the best choice if you are NOT using a sub.
Plus the M3 and the Studio 20 have the same driver configuration.
It is just my opinion but it makes sense to me.

Originally Posted by Brenttom

This is Brent from Axiom Audio. Though we rarely interject in forums, even our own; it seemed relevant in this case to explain a bit of the background with Skiing Ninja.* Skiing Ninja first came to our attention when they showed up on the Axiom Forum trying to sell an upgraded cross-over for our M22 model for almost the cost of the entire M22 speaker.* Even though this is a blatant violation of one of the few Axiom Forum rules we decided not to dwell on that point but rather to get involved and asked them to send us a pair of their upgraded x-overs for testing.* This offer was met by an initial acceptance then followed by many various excuses as to why they could not follow through.* As would be expected this laundry list of excuses piqued the interest in some of our board members and one of them sent us a pair of these x-overs they had purchased.* We were hoping that these x-overs would show some sort of benefit or at worst not be a detriment as it was sort of cool to have aftermarket products available for our products.* (It also meant the purchaser of the Skiing Ninja x-overs would also have to be the purchaser of a pair of M22s which is always a good thing)

We conducted a series of measurements on the Skiing Ninja x-overs and also subjected them to a double blind listening test.* Both the measurements and the double blind listening tests revealed some basic flaws with their upgraded design.* As a result the Skiing Ninja x-overs lost the double blind listen test to the production x-overs.*

After this incident Skiing Ninja became quite belligerent towards Axiom and started bashing us at every opportunity, which is apparent in earlier referenced Skiing Ninja review of our M80s.* This review contains numerous factual errors and unfounded conclusions.* One of their major complaints is centered around what is known as comb filtering.* This is a subject we understand thoroughly as we design speakers that exhibit this exact phenomenon; on purpose.* We have published a few articles on the subject of comb filtering and have done extensive research into it.*
I invite you to read for yourself:
Axiom newsletter article by Alan Lofft on comb filtering:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/archives/may2009.html

Forum post by Ian Colquhoun on comb filtering:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubb...=284865&page=4

Axiom owners' comments on their M80s:
http://www.axiomaudio.com/customreviewstowers.html#m80