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post #331 of 581
From setup guide at MPC-HC. Hope this helps.

QUOTE:
With madVR : Select "madVR". Don't check "D3D Fullscreen" because madVR is able to switch automatically from windowed mode to D3D Fullscreen. This gives you access to MPC-HC features.

Fullscreen
This feature is very interesting because it will allow you to change automatically the frequency of your TV according to the frequency of the video. But be careful, it doesn't work with D3D Fullscreen, which may cause other problems. Because of this I do not recommend you to use this feature. If you want to activate it anyway, check "Use autochange". You can also check "Launch files in fullscreen", "Show controls in fullscreen", "Exit fullscreen at the end of playblack" and "Restore resolution on program exit". In "Fullscreen monitor" select your TV.
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post #332 of 581
You guys are the best. I'll aply the changes when I get home and report back. Thanks!
post #333 of 581
A big thanks goes out to Nevcairiel for the countless hours he has spent developing LAV CUVID(video decoder), LAV Filters(Splitter), LAV Audio(Audio Decoder) for the general community and also to Madshi for the Madvr(Video Renderer) and Slysoft for Reclock(Audio Renderer)

For bug reports for LAV CUVID
go to https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=160290

For more info, downloads, etc on Navcairiel's projects
go to http://1f0.de/ (Navcairiel's Blog)

If you would like to support Navcairiel's projects you can make donations via paypal
by following this link http://1f0.de/downloads/ and clicking on the PayPal Donate button
post #334 of 581
OK I got home and MadVR will not autochange MPC-HC from a window to fullscreen.

I disabled in MPC-HC auto fullscreen mode under the impression that MadVR would now automatically do that for me, but it does not.

I'm starting to suspect the Cyberlink Video Decoder. If I use the WMVideoDecoder DMO decoder, then MPC-HC launches in fullscreen and plays without a problem.

Any reason why Cyberlink PDVD11 Decoder would be giving me such weird problems? I am wanting to use this codec for it's HAM mode (I have a Sempron 140 processor that is unlocked to dual-core and overclocked to 3.4ghz). It can software decode most video fine, but my CPU usage is up well over 60% and sometimes a little bit higher.
post #335 of 581
I am seeing the fullscreen issue.

Two days ago I saw what I think is the frame dropping problem. Last night I added reclock.

Today I tested a couple movies. I have a monitor and a plasma running on CCC extended mode. MPC-HC, via Media Browser, video, (however the audio starts), does not display on the plasma until I click the MPC-HC icon on the monitor task bar. Then MPC-HC comes up full screen on the plasma. So, because reclock was the last change I made I suspect the full screen problem is related to reclock.

Also I noticed that when I installed Reclock 1.8.7.7 from the SlySoft forum the versions mentioned were XP and Vista. I am running Win 7 32 bit.
post #336 of 581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Postmoderndesign View Post

I am seeing the fullscreen issue.

Two days ago I saw what I think is the frame dropping problem. Last night I added reclock.

Today I tested a couple movies. I have a monitor and a plasma running on CCC extended mode. MPC-HC, via Media Browser, video, (however the audio starts), does not display on the plasma until I click the MPC-HC icon on the monitor task bar. Then MPC-HC comes up full screen on the plasma. So, because reclock was the last change I made I suspect the full screen problem is related to reclock.

Also I noticed that when I installed Reclock 1.8.7.7 from the SlySoft forum the versions mentioned were XP and Vista. I am running Win 7 32 bit.

I have tried reclock on a couple of boxes.. one with madVR, both have have the LAV decoders. I get erors messages of all kinds on both boxes either during reclock install or configuration and if I get it to run by some magical voodo it will break audio and maybe video playback... it is bad juju for me so far. One is a dual core Atom, the other an i3 with a GT430 both running MPC HC. I am not sure what I expected it to fix, but I assume it would be a better audio renderer.

The Atom PC does not want to play the Dolby Digital Plus audio tracks from some early HD DVD concert MKVs.. It is not the LAV decodr as the same files plays fine on the i3.. either way reclock is so tricky that it breaks itself on either box. I have uninstalled it for now, hoping I see answers somewhere. I am not chasing 23P perfection as only the display on the Atom supports 5-5 pulldown. Just thought it might eliminate the occasion dropped video frame.
post #337 of 581
Love this renderer massive improvement in PQ - currently using an ATI card (5670) - though my processor (Phenom 9650 2.3GHz) baulks at the majority of my 1080p rips.

Here's the rub - happy to consider a rebuild to include sufficient processing power to enable hardware decoding, or should I just look at an Nvidia card to take advantage of HA (I think it is available with MadVR if I read Renethx's posts correctly - apologies if I didn't). If Nvidia is the option - any card recommendations?
post #338 of 581
no way bro!
you have stronger cpu than me and i have no problem
check again your filters & settings.

you need nvidia (cuda) only for hardware de-interlace
post #339 of 581
Hmmmm any suggestions what to look for - running mpc-hc with MadVR.
post #340 of 581
Install lav splitter, and the latest besta releases of mpc-hc
You can see previous pages.
Everything is completely described.
post #341 of 581
Yeah realised that after I posted. Already had LAV installed, but an older version of mpc-hc - downloaded latest beta and playback has improved dramatically - thanks
post #342 of 581
I have a strange problem. I have an ati card so cyberlink ham is my only option.
I also need ffdshow video filter for subtitles and frame interpolation.
I actually use svp kit.
So my setup is mpc-hc-->lav splitter -> ffdshow video raw filter---> cyberlink ham video decoder --> madvr set at pc levels.
Ati's catalyst also is set at full rgb.
My problem is that I have all actors faces blue.
I have totally wrong colors.
How could I fix that?
I think one solution might be to change the order of filters.( cyberlink first ffdhow second) but how I could do that?
Any other solution?
Something goes wrong with color conversions
post #343 of 581
Fix.

BTW the correct order is

lav source splitter -> cyberlink ham video decoder -> ffdshow raw video filter -> madvr,

right?
post #344 of 581
Ι was sure that YOU would have the correct answer

To change the order I must also change merits in mpc-hc external filters tab?
post #345 of 581
Placing CyberLink Video Decoder above ffdshow raw video fitler in "External Filters" (and set both to "Prefer") is enough.
post #346 of 581
Thanks again Rene!
post #347 of 581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Postmoderndesign View Post

I am seeing the fullscreen issue.

Two days ago I saw what I think is the frame dropping problem. Last night I added reclock.

Today I tested a couple movies. I have a monitor and a plasma running on CCC extended mode. MPC-HC, via Media Browser, video, (however the audio starts), does not display on the plasma until I click the MPC-HC icon on the monitor task bar. Then MPC-HC comes up full screen on the plasma. So, because reclock was the last change I made I suspect the full screen problem is related to reclock.

Also I noticed that when I installed Reclock 1.8.7.7 from the SlySoft forum the versions mentioned were XP and Vista. I am running Win 7 32 bit.

First, let me say that Reclock comes with a manual which is the readme file. The readme file is probably for Reclock version 1.6; so, I am adapting the advice for Reclock 1.8.7.7

I assume my issues are somewhat unique in that I have a Radeon 4670 attached to both a monitor and a Plasma TV, (two displays in CCC extended mode) and I have audio going through the Reatek driver to the default HDMI device for media and to two powered computer speaker set as a default communication device and used for computer programs.

These alternatives seem to be confusing Reclock so I am trying to configue Reclock. The problems are that PowerDVD is using the two computer speaker rather that HDMI, the AVR and the theater speakers. Problem two is that video is not showing on the plasma when MPC-HC starts a movie.

I am attempting to solve the PowerDVD problem by setting reclock to only work with MPC-HC where the dropped frames problem occured. Under advanced setting I checked force reclock to load instead of the default renders (recommended) and then under that I added MPC-HC and checked only load Reclock and show application dialog for defined applications.

To solve the problem of video not coming up on the plasma when MCP-HC starts I went to Video Settings and under Monitor detection I changed that to Force secondary.

Finally, for an extra measure under advanced settings I checked Give high CPU priority to player since the computer is sometimes used for programs while a movie plays.

Now, I will test out these changes.
post #348 of 581
"To solve the problem of video not coming up on the plasma when MCP-HC starts I went to Video Settings and under Monitor detection I changed that to Force secondary."

This did not solve the problem. I still need to click the MPC-HC icon on the monitor task bar to get the video to display on the plasma. The task bar on the monitor is displaying icons for both 7MC and MPC-HC. Also, though the plasma is full screen under MPC-HC the mouse pointer will move between the monitor and the plasma. So, reclock changes how 7MC works via media browser.
post #349 of 581
This MadVR thing is quite confusing to me for some reason. Does it replace FFDshow, or do I still need it?

I'd like to really improve the quality of upscaling for my content. Using AMD 6670 card, what should I be using with MPC-HC and where is the best place to find some configurations?

Should I be using MadVR + LavFilters only?
Add FFDShow?
Add Arcsoft decoder (own TMT 5)
Add cyberlink ham video decoder
post #350 of 581
nope, madvr is video renderer

ffdshow,lav cuvid,arcsoft etc are video decoders.

you need both filters.

you set your video renderer in Mpc-hc`s output tab
post #351 of 581
With an AMD card your best bet is cyberlink/HAM mode (as video decoder) + madVR (as video renderer). But with AMD card + madVR you can't get VA deinterlacing. For interlaced video your best option is cyberlink/DXVA mode (as video decoder) + EVR CP (as video renderer).
post #352 of 581
Using cyberlink ham I have a green line at the bottom of my screen.
How is possible to fix that?
post #353 of 581
My only guess is - make sure you have latest DirectX.
post #354 of 581
I am attempting to solve the PowerDVD problem by setting reclock to only work with MPC-HC where the dropped frames problem occured. Under advanced setting I checked force reclock to load instead of the default renders (recommended) and then under that I added MPC-HC and checked only load Reclock and show application dialog for defined applications.

Now I do not have this audio problem with with Reclock.

Last night I saw the dropped frame problem with MPC-HC and reclock. It seems to occur when I play a second movie using MPC-HC.

I am going to uninstall reclock.
post #355 of 581
Quote:
Originally Posted by Qaq View Post

With an AMD card your best bet is cyberlink/HAM mode (as video decoder) + madVR (as video renderer). But with AMD card + madVR you can't get VA deinterlacing. For interlaced video your best option is cyberlink/DXVA mode (as video decoder) + EVR CP (as video renderer).

OK, I can add those in...cyberlink / ham go in as external filters right?

If I have all of the Transform Filters deselected how do I specify DXVA for interlaced video?
post #356 of 581
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigZAJ View Post

OK, I can add those in...cyberlink / ham go in as external filters right?

If I have all of the Transform Filters deselected how do I specify DXVA for interlaced video?

You don't have to disable internal transform filters at all. "Preferred" transform filters in "External Filters" are always selected over internal ones (this post for details).

It's not CyberLink HAM Decoder but CyberLink Video Decoder that is to be added in External Filters; open the properties of CyberLink Video Decoder by double clicking it, then select "HAM".

There is no automated way to switch between CyberLink Video Decoder (HAM) + MadVR for progressive contents and CyberLink Video Decoder (DXVA) + EVR Custom Pres. for interlaced contents. So IMO this is a poor solution. I recommend the following solution instead:
LAV Source Splitter -> ffdshow Video Decoder with Deinterlacing (yadif) on -> madVR, for all contents, progressive or interlaced. Well, except for interlaced VC-1, which has to be converted to interlaced H.264 by x264 (there are not so many interlaced VC-1 contents anyway). Compare at Cheese_Slices_NTSC_1080i_H.264.ts playback below. yadif is close to Vector Adaptive.

ffdshow Video Decoder (yadif)

CyberLink Video Decoder (DXVA, Auto)

CyberLink Video Decoder (SW/HAM, Auto)

ffdshow Video Decoder configuration

In "Deinterlacing" tab (checked), select "yadif" and make sure to check "Skip spatial interlacing check" (better results) and "Double framerate" (60i is converted to 60p properly).

Make sure to enable MPEG-2 video decoding (libmpeg2 is standard). If you want to use ffdshow for progressive VC-1, select wmv9 (the same as WMVideo Decoder DMO) or libavcodec. wmv9 *supports* interlaced VC-1, but apparently yadif does not work. (libavcodec does not support interlaced VC-1.)

Converting interlaced VC-1 to interlaced H.264

If you have interlaced VC-1 contents, you can convert them to interlaced H.264 easily by using x264; BluRip is a nice GUI (VC-1 1080i60 playback issues...).
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post #357 of 581
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigZAJ View Post

OK, I can add those in...cyberlink / ham go in as external filters right?

Right. Set Prefer.
Quote:


If I have all of the Transform Filters deselected how do I specify DXVA for interlaced video?

Your decoder in External Filters now.
For interlaced video:
1) set EVR CP as video renderer in Output (you can't get VA deinterlacing with madVR)
2) set Cyberlink to DXVA mode (Internal - click on Cyberlink - DXVA - ok)
For progressive:
1) go back to madVR
2) set Cyberlink to HAM mode (the only way for hardware acceleration with madVR for ATI)
Or just keep on using EVR CP/DXVA for progressive too.
post #358 of 581
The Cyberlink Video Decoder (PDVD9) will work as an external filter. Colors are more intense and the picture a little sharper.
post #359 of 581
What is the difference between the LAV Splitter and the LAV Source Splitter. The configuarion options seem identical. I have run both as external filters individually and together at the same time. I can't see any operational difference.. are they redundant? Is one suggested over the other in any particular situation?
post #360 of 581
Since installing and uninstalling reclock I have a problem exiting mpc-hc via media browser running under win7 32 bit. When I stop a movie and then hit the exit key I get a blue screen win 7 logo on the extended desktop plasma instead of returning to the movie's background on the diamond theme of media browser. If I click the 7MC logo on the task bar on the monitor I then get the diamond theme background on the plasma.

Does anyone have any suggestions for getting MPC-HC to exit directlly to the media browser movie background?
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