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post #151 of 189
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Originally Posted by sociojeje View Post

Oh it remembers the setting for sure. My question is why it doesnt pick up music when set automatic surround.

I have the 1700 that defaults to L7 in 2 channel. I tried this yesterday.
Using Direct TV as source: 1. Set to Auto while watching DD program. 2. Change DTV to a music channel (stereo) and default was L7 Movie. 3. While playing music go to Surround modes and change to L7 Music.

L7 Music should now be the default rather than Movie. I think you have to do this for each input you use because I had to do the same with my BDP.

Hope this work for you.
post #152 of 189
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I got my 1650 and hooked it up. So far so good except I noticed that volume adjustments or any other functions do not display on screen via the HDMI output. Is that normal or do I have something not set right?

Anyone? I suspect that the 1650 does not display on screen except for setup related menus.
post #153 of 189
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

Anyone? I suspect that the 1650 does not display on screen except for setup related menus.

I asked on Amazon.com and the answer there was "no". I guess that "feature" is limited to the mid-upper price range of AVRs. I had no idea having an active OSD was such a costly thing to implement, but I guess it is.
post #154 of 189
I ran the EZ Set/EQ calibration on my 1650 last night. Wow, that ting really puts out some loud test tones. Does anyone know if this actually EQs or does it just try and set the distances, crossover points and levels?

The results were interesting...it got the distances fairly accurate (except the surounds), but it set the cossover on my custom made 15" JBLs to 80 Hz, which I thought was a bit odd since they are capable of going a lot lower than that. It also cranked up my sub to +10, which I lowered to +5 so as to minimize bothering the downstairs neighbor in my apartment.

I am also curious about the typical volume setting that other 1650 owners find themselves at? I find that the typical volume setting for Comcast HD TV via HDMI is between -35 to -30, which is by no means loud, rather a comfortable listening level.
post #155 of 189
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Originally Posted by am_dew View Post

I ran the EZ Set/EQ calibration on my 1650 last night. Wow, that ting really puts out some loud test tones. Does anyone know if this actually EQs or does it just try and set the distances, crossover points and levels?

The results were interesting...it got the distances fairly accurate (except the surounds), but it set the cossover on my custom made 15" JBLs to 80 Hz, which I thought was a bit odd since they are capable of going a lot lower than that. It also cranked up my sub to +10, which I lowered to +5 so as to minimize bothering the downstairs neighbor in my apartment.

I am also curious about the typical volume setting that other 1650 owners find themselves at? I find that the typical volume setting for Comcast HD TV via HDMI is between -35 to -30, which is by no means loud, rather a comfortable listening level.

I have the 1600 and I can't tell if it does any EQ or not.

As for your sub you probably need to turn the gain on the sub itself up and run the EZSet again. You are better off having the AVR sub output a 0 or less. I run mine between -2db and -6db depending on the source. When you run the AVR sub output over 0db you have the potential to clip the signal.

Also if your AVR set the sub channel to +10 the gain on the sub was way too low.

I run about the same volume level for most TV shows.
post #156 of 189
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Originally Posted by Kini62 View Post

I have the 1600 and I can't tell if it does any EQ or not.

As for your sub you probably need to turn the gain on the sub itself up and run the EZSet again. You are better off having the AVR sub output a 0 or less. I run mine between -2db and -6db depending on the source. When you run the AVR sub output over 0db you have the potential to clip the signal.

Also if your AVR set the sub channel to +10 the gain on the sub was way too low.

I run about the same volume level for most TV shows.

Thanks...that makes sense..I did not think about the possibility of the amp clipping the sub signal. I will raise the gain on the sub itself and re-run the EZSet.
post #157 of 189
Can the remote control for the 1650 be programmed so that I can use the on/off buttons to control on/off for both the AVR and my TV in a single button press while keeping the source input on HDMI 1? I am using the HDMI inputs for my sources and the HDMI output to my TV -- when I press TV on the remote it switches me to the TV input which you cannot assign to any of the HDMI inputs, which seems a little out of date to me. Also, what I find odd is that you can see AVR volume changes on-screen after pressing the TV button, but of course that does me no good since all my sources are HDMI. I'm sort of wishing I would have done a bit more research on this before buying it but I guess I can't complain too much due to the price I paid (USD$199).
post #158 of 189

It is possible with macro button if you program it that way. 

post #159 of 189
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Originally Posted by sociojeje View Post

It is possible with macro button if you program it that way. 

Thanks, but I picked up a Harmony remote for cheap and that does the job very nicely, and lots more.
post #160 of 189
Is any one else getting the audio dropouts on the 1650 like mentioned earlier in the thread ? Just had my first set of drop outs on monsters university dolby true hd , bluray payer setup through HDMI 1 . I saw this issue come up multiple times in this thread wondering if there is a fix , or its a defective unit , can't seem to replicate the problem ,just happens sometimes ...
Edited by CarbonFiberGuy - 11/12/13 at 8:42pm
post #161 of 189
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Originally Posted by CarbonFiberGuy View Post

Is any one else getting the audio dropouts on the 1650 like mentioned earlier in the thread ? Just had my first set of drop outs on monsters university dolby true hd , bluray payer setup through HDMI 1 . I saw this issue come up multiple times in this thread wondering if there is a fix , or its a defective unit , can't seem to replicate the problem ,just happens sometimes ...

If the Blu-Ray player is a Samsung return it and get a better unit..

Just my $0.05... 👍😉
post #162 of 189
Trust me it's not the BD player.... My 1650 has been doing it almost from day one with BD and cable, both via HDMI. I could have returned it to HK I guess during warranty but I just felt like that was too much of a pain in the arse. This was just a temp fill in; my older Denon DVR did not do DTS-HD or Dolby True HD. Great reason not to buy a more expensive HK product. Really disappointed with their new product line. But if anyone else has had this issue and knows the cause or a fix, by all means....
post #163 of 189
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Originally Posted by solfranbeth View Post

Trust me it's not the BD player.... My 1650 has been doing it almost from day one with BD and cable, both via HDMI. I could have returned it to HK I guess during warranty but I just felt like that was too much of a pain in the arse. This was just a temp fill in; my older Denon DVR did not do DTS-HD or Dolby True HD. Great reason not to buy a more expensive HK product. Really disappointed with their new product line. But if anyone else has had this issue and knows the cause or a fix, by all means....

Some said turning off deep color would help. Are you playing it with a usb stick? Some slow usb stick cause that. If not, have you tried 1.4a hdmi cables?

post #164 of 189
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Originally Posted by solfranbeth View Post

Trust me it's not the BD player.... My 1650 has been doing it almost from day one with BD and cable, both via HDMI. I could have returned it to HK I guess during warranty but I just felt like that was too much of a pain in the arse. This was just a temp fill in; my older Denon DVR did not do DTS-HD or Dolby True HD. Great reason not to buy a more expensive HK product. Really disappointed with their new product line. But if anyone else has had this issue and knows the cause or a fix, by all means....

Problem with the Samsung BD players are that they are NOT HDMI certified..
In our custom AV install biz, we will not use any Samsung BD players just too many issues especially interoperability between other HDMI components.


Just my $0.05... 👍😉
post #165 of 189
I can't speak to that, but this happened to me using both a Panasonic and a new Sony....??? I have not tried the HDMI 1.4 cables suggested in the previous post, but I will.
post #166 of 189
My bluray player is a newer sony .from my memorie the deep color setting on the player is set to auto .I will turn it off when I get home tonight and report back .My cables are all high speed 1.4 so thats not the issue ...
post #167 of 189
Just to follow up to my post on the previous page: I returned the defective? (piece of junk) to newegg. Also came across too much info supporting the fact that HK quality is not what it used to be.
post #168 of 189

I've got an AVR 1650 and I'm trying desperately to get the HK remote to control my DirecTV HD-DVR (HR20-700). I noticed that code 309 works (turns off my DirecTV receiver) if I select VID1, but my receiver is hooked up to HDMI 4, not VID1 and HDMI 4 will not accept any of the DirecTV sat codes.

 

I'm simply not willing to hook up my HD receiver to analog sources just to get the remote to work. Anyone have advice on how to get this to work?

post #169 of 189
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Originally Posted by wutangben View Post

Just to follow up to my post on the previous page: I returned the defective? (piece of junk) to newegg. Also came across too much info supporting the fact that HK quality is not what it used to be.

Hope your new one wouldn't make the same problem. I guess I am lucky to have a good one. But I definitely agree with you that HK quality isn't the same. The problem is that all of the popular brand receivers are going to the direction... The dark side of neoliberal globalization. 

post #170 of 189
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Originally Posted by Neal Bailey View Post
 

I've got an AVR 1650 and I'm trying desperately to get the HK remote to control my DirecTV HD-DVR (HR20-700). I noticed that code 309 works (turns off my DirecTV receiver) if I select VID1, but my receiver is hooked up to HDMI 4, not VID1 and HDMI 4 will not accept any of the DirecTV sat codes.

 

I'm simply not willing to hook up my HD receiver to analog sources just to get the remote to work. Anyone have advice on how to get this to work?

Set the code with HDMI4. When putting the code, push vid1 before you enter the code. Hope it works. 

post #171 of 189
I set the deep color from auto to off on my bluray player & still got a few random audio drop outs on my problem disc monsters university .Watched a few other movies and had no problems . This disc is fine, I played it in my basement setup with no problems , def the receiver . I would like to try some more dolby true HD material but I do not have any more blurays in fullscreen (breaking in a plasma at the moment) ? Unless this problem starts poping up more I can live with not watching monsters univ upstairs lol . Ive only had the unit for a month or two so wait and see ... I bought from newegg , and I highly recommend getting the extended warrenty ,as they don't repair they just give you a gift card to buy a new unit ...
post #172 of 189

does anyone know what DAC avr1650 use? I found a nice deal on an old cd player but wondering how worthy it is...

post #173 of 189
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Originally Posted by sociojeje View Post
 

Set the code with HDMI4. When putting the code, push vid1 before you enter the code. Hope it works. 


That worked! Thanks! The HK remote can't access the DTV guide or DVR features but at least it can turn off the DTV box

post #174 of 189
Hi guys,
I'm italian and I have an AVR 156 (EU version of the AVR 1565).

I have a question for you: can you see on TV the OSD menu via HDMI?

Harman Kardon Italy say me that "you can see OSD menu only via composite video).

For me it's impossible... what do you say?

Thanks and best regards from Italy! wink.gif
post #175 of 189
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Originally Posted by elegantman View Post

Hi guys,
I'm italian and I have an AVR 156 (EU version of the AVR 1565).

I have a question for you: can you see on TV the OSD menu via HDMI?

Harman Kardon Italy say me that "you can see OSD menu only via composite video).

For me it's impossible... what do you say?

Thanks and best regards from Italy! wink.gif

I have the 1650. I can only see the menu in reduced resolution via HDMI. I have to push the OSD and the AVR button in order to do so. The menu is not visible while in full 1080 resolution. while this does work to help set up the receiver I was still disappointed not to have OSD while in full resolution.
Hope this helps.

Hello Italy from America. I once visited your country and it is beautiful.
post #176 of 189
Thanks Cyrano,
the 1650 is different from the AVR 156 (1565), is of a higher category.

I try to follow your advice (OSD button first and AVR button after on remote) and I see what happens.

I hope that some 1565's owner is heard. wink.gif

Thanks for the compliments Italy. I love USA! : D
post #177 of 189
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Originally Posted by elegantman View Post

Thanks Cyrano,
the 1650 is different from the AVR 156 (1565), is of a higher category.

I try to follow your advice (OSD button first and AVR button after on remote) and I see what happens.

I hope that some 1565's owner is heard. wink.gif

Thanks for the compliments Italy. I love USA! : D
Hello again. I think I should have included the TV button as well. I think our receivers are similar in this display ability but I could be wrong. I hope 1565 owners will report here. I wish volume levels and such were available to see when I am using HDMI 1 and 2 and so on. My display device is hooked up via hdmi but the resolution of menu switches over to low resolution. A disappointment for me.
post #178 of 189
Hi Cyrano, thanks again. wink.gif
You are right about the low resolution of the menu. It would have been better to see a menu most beautiful and highest resolution.

I want to ask you something, pls: could you tell me how is the precise sequence of buttons on the remote control to bring up the OSD menu on TV via HDMI?

Many thanks. smile.gif

1565's owners, are you here? biggrin.gif
post #179 of 189
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Originally Posted by elegantman View Post

Hi Cyrano, thanks again. wink.gif
You are right about the low resolution of the menu. It would have been better to see a menu most beautiful and highest resolution.

I want to ask you something, pls: could you tell me how is the precise sequence of buttons on the remote control to bring up the OSD menu on TV via HDMI?

Many thanks. smile.gif

1565's owners, are you here? biggrin.gif
Hi - I can't yet because I use a projector and it uses an hour if I turn it on for a couple of minutes. I will later.
And as I recall it is not a set sequence of button pushes that I have figured out. I just keep at it until it works. Perhaps the manual would help. It is a bad design. There are a couple of things I don't like about this receiver. It is not very versatile. But it has very good, clean and strong sound.
What I like is a receiver that I can try different things with. Using HDMI inputs with this receiver means that one can only process the sound through that input. I would like to be able to use the digital inputs and then decide for myself how the sound is processed.
For example: The HDMI output might be a stereo output, and that is all I can use. I would like to be able to use different surround sound options and experiment a little.

I will end by asking 1565 users to help elegantman figure out how to displau his menu(s).
Edited by Cyrano - 11/20/13 at 8:33am
post #180 of 189
Hi - I own the 1650 and I am having a problem figuring out how to adjust the channel volume levels without losing the program I'm watching. The receiver always dumbs down into 480 res when entrring setup mode.
Is the a way to add a couple of notches of added volume to, say, the center channel w/o losing the program being watched?

Thanks for any help.

I will RTFM again, but I found nothing there before.
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