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post #1531 of 1995
Waiting for this to hit the same price I paid for Back to the Future ($15).
post #1532 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

I managed to, finally, get thru all the BDs....

Basically, this release is a disappointment.

JP1 has detail...and that is good.
But the BD isn't inspiring, by any stretch.

JP2 is frickin' awful.
Seriously, are we certain this isn't the DVD master?
FWIW, the movie itself is worthy to enter the hallowed halls of Mystery Science Theater.
I knew I didn't like it during its Theatrical Release....now, I recall why.

JP3 is the best of the bunch, at least in terms of PQ/SQ.
While NOT perfect, it puts the others in the shade by a considerable amount.

I gotta say if this release isn't a giant FU to Spielberg, I don't know what is...
Spielberg has gotten a lot of criticism for being too sappy.
These movies show him at his sappiest.

To add to this....

The 1st two films have inconsistent audio quality.
The dialog can, at times, sound shallow and brittle, while sound effects are of high quality.
This makes for a frustrating soundtrack....one minute cursing it and the next marvelling at the clarity.
JP3 doesn't have this issue, it's consistent throughout.

The video for Lost World is SO bad I turned up The Detail Enhancer +7 and Edge Enhancer +2 on my Oppo 83 to make it look even remotely likely HD.
It's really that bad.
The early scene of Ian meeting Hammond will make you wonder if somehow someone slapped a BD label on a DVD and stuck it in the set as a joke.
This is some of the worst video I have ever seen on a BD.

I have to wonder if this isn't a jab at SS.
If you recall, he wouldn't allow Universal to put his films out on HD-DVD.
No doubt this pi$$ed off the Powers-That-Be at the studio.
And, no doubt, part of the HD-DVD marketing plan leaned heavily on the SS blockbusters to establish the format against the rival BD.
If he had let it happen, it might have been possible for HD-DVD to be around today.

Sadly, the thought of the upcoming Jaws BD looking this way is....
post #1533 of 1995
JP1: Most likely an older master/transfer that has been "Digitally Remastered" with some filtering then a smidge of sharpening to cover up that fact.

JP2: Old master/transfer that had some significant filtering applied yet no EE.

JP3: Actually looks the best out of the bunch, grain seemed fine and natural with no EE.

Best Regards
KvE
post #1534 of 1995
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Originally Posted by KMFDMvsEnya View Post

JP1: Most likely an older master/transfer that has been "Digitally Remastered" with some filtering then a smidge of sharpening to cover up that fact.

JP2: Old master/transfer that had some significant filtering applied yet no EE.

JP3: Actually looks the best out of the bunch, grain seemed fine and natural with no EE.

Best Regards
KvE

You're probably right.

Tonite, as a part of my contrast/compare experiment, I fired up Cameron's Aliens....

What a minute here...
Aliens = 1986
Lost World = 1997

IMO, Aliens (on BD) crushes Lost World (BD) on any metric imaginable.
Folks, it ain't close.
post #1535 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

You're probably right.

Tonite, as a part of my contrast/compare experiment, I fired up Cameron's Aliens....

What a minute here...
Aliens = 1986
Lost World = 1997

IMO, Aliens (on BD) crushes Lost World (BD) on any metric imaginable.
Folks, it ain't close.

But Aliens is no where near true to source
post #1536 of 1995
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

But Aliens is no where near true to source

I doubt very much Lost World is either.
It was shot with a big budget by a big-time crew.
SS is no dummy when it comes to shooting a movie well.
post #1537 of 1995
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

I doubt very much Lost World is either.
It was shot with a big budget by a big-time crew.
SS is no dummy when it comes to shooting a movie well.

True, its old and dated but its at least not revisionist.
post #1538 of 1995
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

True, its old and dated but its at least not revisionist.

IMO, the only thing that could save LW is a re-shoot with a new script.
It is LOL stupid as it is now....many cringy moments.

Don't you like the D.C. of Aliens?
While not perfect, it is better than the Theatrical.
post #1539 of 1995
I think he means the new color timing.
post #1540 of 1995
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Originally Posted by raoul_duke View Post

I think he means the new color timing.

Yep and the (admittedly well done) DNR

And I for the record prefer the extended Aliens, bar the ultimate bad ass speech.
post #1541 of 1995
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

bar the ultimate bad ass speech.

Agreed....should have been left on the cutting room floor.
post #1542 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

Don't you like the D.C. of Aliens?
While not perfect, it is better than the Theatrical.

IMO not really... The extended scenes are interesting but the movie is long enough already. The post attack scene on LV-246 with Newt's family is just unnecessary.
post #1543 of 1995
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Originally Posted by oink View Post

Agreed....should have been left on the cutting room floor.

Worst delivery ever!
post #1544 of 1995
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Originally Posted by Kram Sacul View Post

IMO not really... The extended scenes are interesting but the movie is long enough already. The post attack scene on LV-246 with Newt's family is just unnecessary.

I am inclined to agree, but many seem to think being introduced to Newt's history is important.

By far the best scene in the D.C. is the Sentry Guns.
Absolutely, positively should have been in the Theatrical.
post #1545 of 1995
My son gave me this set for on Blu-Ray for Christmas.
I have to say, since it has been a while since we watched the old standard DVD's in my library, WE ARE LOVING THIS.

So far we watched disc 1 and disc 3. I love Blu-Ray on the Samsung 8500, and it was a pleasure seeing these movies in their best available home PQ versions; although I did feel like the third one was sharper with more detail than the first disc. We are going to watch the second one this week. With all the positive comments on the audio, I was surprised that the bass on some of the introductory scenes seemed weaker on these discs compared to my old DVD's, not sure why. But overall audio was impressive.

One of the best things is the extras; seeing the HD interviews with the original kids from the first film "all grown up." My son and daughters are all over 18 now, but these movies reminded us how much we loved these when our kids were younger; they were Jurassic Park kids!

I was reading about the plans for Jurrassic Park 4 on Wikipedia recently; and I certainly hope it happens -- because I can never get enough JP!
post #1546 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Yep and the (admittedly well done) DNR

And I for the record prefer the extended Aliens, bar the ultimate bad ass speech.

Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

Agreed....should have been left on the cutting room floor.

Ahaha! I concur with my fellow 'ultimate badasses'.

WWwweeeeelllllaaaaaahhhhhh!!!
post #1547 of 1995
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

Worst delivery ever!

It was more like a 45-second masturbation scene in that it was shoehorned and awkward, not to mention it seems incredibly cliche and really dates the movie to that jingoistic rhetoric of the 80's American culture as a product of the times. It would really serve the movie well to have it removed and simply kept as a deleted scene in the extras.
post #1548 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

I have to wonder if this isn't a jab at SS.
If you recall, he wouldn't allow Universal to put his films out on HD-DVD.
No doubt this pi$$ed off the Powers-That-Be at the studio.
And, no doubt, part of the HD-DVD marketing plan leaned heavily on the SS blockbusters to establish the format against the rival BD.
If he had let it happen, it might have been possible for HD-DVD to be around today.

Yes, and you know what else the HD DVD/Blu-ray format war is responsible for?

Global Warming
The economic collapse in Greece
The tsunami in Japan
The Challenger explosion
The Chernobyl meldown
The Holocaust
The extinction of the dinosaurs
Glenn Beck

Yes, the HD DVD format war was the source of everything that has ever gone wrong in the world - past, present and future, now and forever, ever and ever.

Now that we've established this, can you please move on, oink? Thank you.
post #1549 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Yes, and you know what else the HD DVD/Blu-ray format war is responsible for?

Global Warming
The economic collapse in Greece
The tsunami in Japan
The Challenger explosion
The Chernobyl meldown
The Holocaust
The extinction of the dinosaurs
Glenn Beck

Josh, you forgot one: film critics.
post #1550 of 1995
I sat on the sidelines during the entirety of the Great DVD HD v. Blu-Ray War, so I am constantly surprised by how much emotion is still generated by that now long dead contest.
post #1551 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by oink View Post

I managed to, finally, get thru all the BDs....

Basically, this release is a disappointment.

JP1 has detail...and that is good.
But the BD isn't inspiring, by any stretch.

JP2 is frickin' awful.
Seriously, are we certain this isn't the DVD master?
FWIW, the movie itself is worthy to enter the hallowed halls of Mystery Science Theater.
I knew I didn't like it during its Theatrical Release....now, I recall why.

JP3 is the best of the bunch, at least in terms of PQ/SQ.
While NOT perfect, it puts the others in the shade by a considerable amount.

I gotta say if this release isn't a giant FU to Spielberg, I don't know what is...
Spielberg has gotten a lot of criticism for being too sappy.
These movies show him at his sappiest.

Its Great to see people finally rising up in expressing their disappointment with this JP Bluray release. Really with Universals track record of bad Transfers we should have got the warning, but being a Spielberg film we thought this might be a new Film-to-HD scan. But no! This is the same dvd master, which itself had wrong framing issues, but I have talked about that enough. To add it has a completely new 7.1 remix, which replaces the original theatrical audio track.
No deleted scenes, seriously? A lame film like JP2 had deleted scenes and none of the heavily documented wonderful deleted scenes of JP or JP3 could be included? Why? Are they trying to milk more money out of our pockets for an eventual 20th Anniversary special edition? Then, a 3D Bluray release, Then a Definitive Edition, then a Extreme Edition? Huh, Huh???
Seriously guys , what could it hurt to give a few deleted scenes in a separate section; what could it hurt to give a fresh scan of the films; what could it hurt to provide the original theatrical audio track.
That's not too hard I think!
post #1552 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by Papai2011 View Post

Its Great to see people finally rising up in expressing their disappointment with this JP Bluray release. Really with Universals track record of bad Transfers we should have got the warning, but being a Spielberg film we thought this might be a new Film-to-HD scan. But no! This is the same dvd master, which itself had wrong framing issues, but I have talked about that enough. To add it has a completely new 7.1 remix, which replaces the original theatrical audio track.
No deleted scenes, seriously? A lame film like JP2 had deleted scenes and none of the heavily documented wonderful deleted scenes of JP or JP3 could be included? Why? Are they trying to milk more money out of our pockets for an eventual 20th Anniversary special edition? Then, a 3D Bluray release, Then a Definitive Edition, then a Extreme Edition? Huh, Huh???
Seriously guys , what could it hurt to give a few deleted scenes in a separate section; what could it hurt to give a fresh scan of the films; what could it hurt to provide the original theatrical audio track.
That's not too hard I think!

It's about hurt feelings....and $$$.....
"S.S. is the reason we lost the format war!!!!!"
post #1553 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Z View Post

Yes, the HD DVD format war was the source of everything that has ever gone wrong in the world - past, present and future, now and forever, ever and ever.

That's why I just turned purple, just in case.


post #1554 of 1995
Hey guys

Is the european bluray region free?
post #1555 of 1995
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Originally Posted by lord69 View Post

Hey guys

Is the european bluray region free?

All Universal discs are worldwide
post #1556 of 1995
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post


All Universal discs are worldwide

Ok. Thanks.
So I can import safely!
post #1557 of 1995
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Originally Posted by lord69 View Post


Ok. Thanks.
So I can import safely!

The digital copies won't work, but the blus will be fine.
post #1558 of 1995
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Originally Posted by DavidHir View Post

Waiting for this to hit the same price I paid for Back to the Future ($15).

I am hoping to get it for that too....just like BTTF for $15 (Wal Mart Canada Day Sale)..............I almost had a heart attack when I saw all the titles on that sale.
post #1559 of 1995
Quote:
Originally Posted by lord69 View Post

Ok. Thanks.
So I can import safely!

It was mentioned in the Oppo 93 thread that the UK version has a bug that requires BD Live to be on or the disc won't play. Might be worth checking out before you order.
post #1560 of 1995
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Originally Posted by Saturn94 View Post


It was mentioned in the Oppo 93 thread that the UK version has a bug that requires BD Live to be on or the disc won't play. Might be worth checking out before you order.

Just the UK version or all the region 2 discs?
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