Jurassic Park trilogy - Page 58

Thank you... judge the restoration on Youtube it's totally nonsense in a Forum like this.

Here's some promotional stills of the 3D release (not of the BD) released months ago, with the Trailer, and as you can see are different from it (Youtube AND Downloaded HD version).
Remember that these are just images, compressed in JPG format (and with compression isseus), that have's nothing to do with the BD, so do not start saying "i don't see the grain, DNR!" "Damn you Universal" or things like that, please:

JP 3D Promo

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JP 3D Promo

JP 3D Promo

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JP 3D Promo

These on the THX VT50 looks stunning, remind me of the Reliance transfers.

Can't wait for the BD.
Edited by VickPS - 1/31/13 at 7:02am

Will there be a 2D BD that comes with this package?

Yes, but probably it's gonna be old transfer (!!!).

God, I hope not! That would be the insult to end all past Universal catalog insults! They'd have a new restoration regardless of it being 3D or not (it's a conversion anyway and not something I'd want), so why not release a 2D version with the 3D pack?

From Blu-ray.com, alleged response from Universal:
"master that was created for the Jurassic Park Ultimate Trilogy in 2011", that must be joke, right? How old that master is, 10 years?

As I see it there have always been three realistic options for the 2-D disc we'll be given in the 3-D set:

1. Exact copy of the current 2-D Blu-ray.
2. Same master as the current 2-D Blu-ray, minus filtering (yay?)
3. Left eye or right eye stream of the 3-D version

Annnnd the option we all WANT:

4. New, modern scan, mastered and encoded with minimal filtering.

I'm going to nitpick and speculate for a second. Assuming that e-mail from "UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME ENTERTAINMENT" is 100% true, including misspelling "in" as "is" and spelling "sincerely" as "SIncerely", it could still be either #1 or #2, given the responder's definition of "master".

As long as they re-do the 3D bluray, who cares about a 2D version.

Serious question is serious?

Obvious troll is obvious...

People who DON"T GIVE A FLYING F*CK about 3D crap?

This... plus it's a 2D conversion without even re-rendering the CGI elements. That kind of cheap crap has gotta stop.

Jurassic Park is my favorite Spielberg movie.

I want to see it restored and remastered in glorious 2D just like Minority Report, E.T., Close Encounters and other Spielberg movies on Blu.

Why, Universal? WHY?!

It's the only reason Universal remastered it so I'd rather it continue.

However, the 2D disc in the pack is not the remastered version, which is a B.S. thing to do. That's all I'm interested in. Could care less about the 3D version. And the CGI was not re-rendered... again that's cheap... even though Spielberg specifically said it needed to get brought up to speed for today's theater display technology. PIXAR went back and re-rendered all their old movie files... and these were 100% CGI.

I can't fu**ing believe this... Universal, just fuc*k you, sincerely... i have no words.

It looks like film because of the warm toned colours. In my limited understanding, film has a typical look which digital doesn't, any good masters created from film elements have this warm toned look. Look at Lawrence of Arabia, Look at Ben-Hur, look at Jaws.
Look at the 35mm still frames of Jurassic Park that I posted , and you'll find the similarity in colouring. The current bluray has a bluish tinge which was not how the film looked in its original 35 mm form, as evidenced from the 35 mm stills and the recent 35 mm master from which the 3D version is being created!
This is what I believe to be the case- Logical deduction, you may call it, as I do not have any access to the Universal executives or whoever are involved in the 3D remastering. This the best that I can guess from the evidence I have.
You're right as well, we'll all see how the3D Blu Ray remaster looks, as we all know now from that infamous letter sent from Universal that the 2D disc will have the same decade old master that was used in the Trilogy edition! Universal is notorious for playing cheap, but emptying the buyers eager pockets, so why should this time be any different???

Um, that's a function of the cinematography, lighting, and color timing, not the film medium. Film has a distinct look but it is not inherently warm or cool.

Ok, Then I guess the new 3D version is much closer to the actual colour/look of the movie! 'cause that's how the 35mm frames look!

So I couldn't help but stumbled across this on google, also realizing I made an account here years ago.

I'm one of the people from Blu-Ray.com that shares the same demise for the fact that the 2D Blu-Ray is indeed the same old 2011 transfer as I've e-mailed them myself. This was their response:

Try for yourself with this link [select your country] or directly with USHE.ConsumerRelations@bydeluxe.com. In fact, I think everyone should do it.
If anything, the volume of e-mail they're to receive about this would show that it is a concern. Better than whining and doing nothing really.


And since some of you are questioning the quality of the trailer based on Yahoo / Youtube, you should refer to the best one online at Apple Trailers. Click the down arrow beside "Watch Now" and select "1080p. Quicktime player should pop up seconds later for full viewing.

Bummer, looks like It'll have to be Left Eye ripped from the 3D Blu to get the 2D vesion with the new scan.

The chimps running Universal strike again!

Got another reply. This time a little more indepth but still disappointing to say the least:

I did ask them to forward this concern to the right department in the e-mail so who knows.

Either way gonna push another e-mail this time explaining what detracts the 2011 Blu-Ray from making it look worse than intended. Let's see what they say this time.





This shot alone explains why the new transfer is better. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show) *The screen caps' colour seems to be a slightly altered along with some obviously cropped but it's definitely from the 3D trailer, with the noticeable level of DNR applied.

See the rest of the pictures here. About 1MB each.
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If only that'll work with everyone. Don't have a 3D set up to make that happen Would having the 3D HDMI cables be enough? (Is it 1.4?) Since I do have the PS3 I mean. I doubt it though.

They'll probably lock out the 3D disc from being played in 2D on any players. Some studios do that.

Nothing that the Sly Fox won't be able to fix.

They want us to believe, that this "remastered" version was approved by Spielbeg? That this is the same situation as with Saving Private Ryan, Jaws, E.T. or Minority Report?

Only if you misread what they said.

"based on remastered source material developed under the auspices and with the direct approval of the filmmakers"

"BASED ON" being the key phrase. The original material was approved, not the remastered version "based on" it. They just took the lame old "approved" transfer, DNR'd the grain away, pumped up the color and contrast, changed the AR, converted it to 3-D, and packaged it up. You only set yourself up for disappointment if you thought they would do anything else, myself included.

The mail is about 2D master, not 3D.

The 3D version is OBVIOUS remaster based on a new scan, you can't make all the halos disappear just like that, with DNR and new color timing magic.
Edited by Johnny Vertigo - 2/6/13 at 8:24am

We'll see.