Jurassic Park trilogy - Page 59

I saw the trailer for the 3D re-release in theaters this week. I think I like the new color and it didn't look DNR'd on the cinema screen. I'd take this new transfer for sure on BD if it looked like it did.

Guys, sent a mail to Universal as well, regarding the old master that they were going to use on the new 2D Blu-Ray, and guess what, I got the same reply as some other folks here, with just the addressee name changed.
Here's my original mail-
" Hello,
I'm wondering, why you people at Universal are not using the wonderful new master that you have newly created (for the 3D), for the 2D disc as well.
I mean the old master for the trilogy Bluray was not only poor, but the picture was cropped both vertically and horizontally- It was zoom-boxed.
When I look into the new IMAX 3D trailer for Jurassic Park 3D, I see it not only has a great exotic colour (which the previous Blu-Ray lacked), but the image is both taller and wider than the previous Blu-Ray video.
Please use the same NEW master, please!!! Why are are you doing this to us fans of the Movie. So many of Spielberg's movies getting such astounding new masters(Jaws for example) why not JP? Please, this is very sad for us fans here who do not have 3D equipment, and neither have any interest in buying such equipments!
P.S: I've also noticed a substantial amount of DNR(Digital Noise Reduction) in the new trailer for the new 3D master, which is blocking out a lot of natural skin details. Faces are starting to look waxy, despite being clean. I know it's too late to go back and correct that error, but it will be glaring, on an IMAX screen aor any large screens.
Please use the new master for the 2D Blu-Ray as well, without the DNR!
I hope to receive a reply from you.
Thank you!"

And here's their reply-
"Dear Mr. M...,

Thank you for contacting us.

The 2011 "Jurassic Park Ultimate Trilogy" Blu-ray release is based on remastered source material developed under the auspices and with the direct approval of the filmmakers. Extensive efforts went into the remastering process, and the differences between this Blu-ray release and our original DVD release are dramatic. The same remastered materials will be used for our upcoming DVD and 2D Blu-ray release.

We will forward your comments to the appropriate department.

Again, thank you.

Sincerely,

Consumer Relations
UNIVERSAL STUDIOS HOME ENTERTAINMENT"

I know I've asked this question before (probably in this very same thread), but when exactly was the transfer used in the 2011 blu-ray done??? I should clarify that by "transfer" I'm talking about the actual scan from the film element, not the final hd master itself (everyone keeps throwing around a date of circa 2006, but that's merely when the most recent hd master was likely "prepared" before it sat on the shelf another five years). Was the actual film scan done in 2006 or did Uni take the hd master done way back in 2000 (for the dvd), tweak it a little in 2006 and dump it on disc in 2011???

From the Looks of it the trilogy Bluray used the old 2000 HD masters and tweaked them further( EE, cropping, colour adjustment etc) for the Bluray. At least that's the inference that most of us draw, as Universal is not likely to admit it.

Keep telling myself that I'd get over it but it keeps coming back to me. I really hope but doubt that they'd address this. EE's really kills it, making it ironic that the necessary DNR made the picture quality look cleaner with the absence of halo's etc.

It really does look like the same old DVD transfer, just tweaked around otherwise.

So if there's nothing new with the individual releases, what was the point of waiting this long to release them individually? A marketing ploy to make people buy the box set instead of just one? I would have hoped for a new master but it sounds like only the 3D version will have what we want.

When has Universal (aka Comcast) ever made any sense in the choices they make, especially in regards to catalog releases?

The only good catalog titles, except for Jurassic Park, are other Spielberg titles that he has a personal interest in, like Schindler's List, Jaws, and E.T. His involvement with Jurassic Park was just to help pay for Schindler's List. In fact, he left part way through to start filming in Europe. Lucas and others stepped in to wrap it up.

So really, if I somewhat like 2 and 3 it would just make more sense to get the trilogy. Again, it's a tough decisions with JP 3D right around the corner, too.

The three movie set is still available for under $20 shipped from amazon UK.

It isn't like he left during shooting first unit.

He left for Poland while JP was in post with the ILM stuff.

The studios shouldn't be surprised if the 3D is ripped to allow 2D playback, assuming it isn't already authored to allow this.

If the 3-D version is indeed a quality master, I'll be first in line to do just that.

So has anyone watched the newly released Blu Rays? Is there any difference in PQ from these compared to the box set from last year?

What new Blu-ray?

Universal finally broke out the individual movies to separate releases. Same discs as last year, just no longer bundled in the box set.

Oh, I see.

And in the 3D set coming out... the 2D disc is STILL the old version and not based on their new master done for the 3D version. Universal Home Video seems to be filled with frickin' morons.

One possibility is, Universal will milk out the first movie again but with the new 2D transfer for when Jurassic Park 4 hits theaters....probably an $8 credit towards seeing it or something.

Speaking of 3D, are they converting all three films, or just the first one?

That probably depends on how well the first one does, though I doubt there's much interest in re-releasing the other two.

Sounds about right. Though, they'll probably need those freebie tickets just to get butts in the seats for the fourth film, given how lackluster the third installment was.

As of now, just the first one, but who knows? They could very well do 3D conversions of the other two and release them straight-to-blu-ray just for the sake of consistency with the upcoming fourth movie, which will be native 3D. I mean, kinda awkward to have 3D versions of the first and fourth movies but none for the middle two, right?

On the other hand, if the new 2D master has been altered or "fixed" or "corrected" beyond what was shown in theaters in 1993, then the inclusion of an outdated but unaltered transfer of the original version would be preferable, if less than ideal.

Also, including a nice new 2D transfer would only serve to highlight how poor the initial release from just a couple years ago was. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only blu-ray transfer Universal's redone is Out of Africa, and then only because the pq was so atrociously bad. Like it or not, the JP blu-ray looks more-than-passable to most people.

Jurassic Park 4 = Kingdom of the Crystal Skull......Unless that pull their heads out of their asses and compete with JP1

I bought The Lost World and JP-3 and I've had the chance to watch The Lost World. Can anyone comment about Ian at John's mansion? I didn't think the light coming and washing out Ian's jacket sleeve looked very good. But I was wondering if anyone thought it looked like it was "enhanced" or the amount of light coming in really washed out his sleeve on the original film.

There isn't a fix or a correction simply an arbitrary alteration that does nothing for skin tones.

Here's the screen cap from the 2011 Blu-ray(Top), and the Japanese Superbit DVD from 2003(Bottom). You can tell the master comes from the same HD source years ago.



Also Jurassic Park from the 2005 DVD Adventure Pack comes with the same disc released in 2000. So Im not surpassed if Universal has been sticking to the same master years ago.


http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcompare2/jurassicpark.htm

I think it's obvious (or should be) for everyone, like me, who've seen Jurassic Park through all these years on DVD, that Universal used very old master from pre-HD (I mean REAL high definition) era.

http://fxguide.com/featured/welcome-back-to-jurassic-park/

Thanks for that link, I was curious about the transfer.

Just got back from this in the theater. Like seeing it on the big screen again. Same orange tint through out. 3d was ok, have seen better conversions. Colors were not vibrant at all. No pop. Really dull actually. I felt it had a soap opera/washed out look to it. (I know this could have been the projector at the theater. Emagine Theater, Novi Michigan. On there E3 screen which is similar size wise as IMAX, floor to ceiling.) But I have seen other movies in this same theater(screen #9) and they were not dull at all color wise. Theater had full Dolby Atmos to boot. Sound was just ok. I remember the original having bass that shook the theater. This was not the case here. Good crisp dialogue and every detail was sharp and clean sounding. Overall, I did it for the nostalgia and to see it with my 15 year old daughter on the big screen. I give it 3/5.

Honestly, with bass shakers on my chairs and a more vibrant 73" DLP TV, the blu-ray with film grain felt better to me.