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post #151 of 346
8/14/11 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by Bortonious View Post

Are you joking me. Your use is the misapplication. Your actually feeding it a sbs file and your then surprised it can generate a good 3d image. Your actualy doing some of the work for the converter.
If I did that with my projector/ any 3D TV I wouldnt need the monoprice box at all.

This unit is sold as a 2d to 3d converter (For 2d/3DTV/3D DLP Output). Thats how it should be judged.

Anywho, I guess it has its uses, but I would suggest that yours is not the typical scenario.

In MY OPINION its not sufficient for standard 2d streams (DVD DTV XBOX etc) outputing to a projector.

Hence.........its for sale

Mkoss is using it to convert SBS into frame sequential 120Hz output. The Monoprice converter can either output frame sequential or SBS for 2D to 3D conversion. Your projector can use the SBS output since it converts it to 120hz. This is how I use it with my VIP Theatre converter. I think this converter works best with 3D ready DLP link projectors and DLP link Glasses. That is why Mkoss is so happy with it.
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post #152 of 346
8/15/11 at 12:24am
could one on the cheap have a 2D->"3D" setup with just a standalone dvd player, Monoprice 3D creator plus a ViewSonic PJD5123 projector and shutter glasses? - or would there be issues and better tried with a pc? - have only run the Monoprice on a 2D 42" plasma in anaglyph and in that case had some stair-stepping artifacts. I've a new Vizio 42" passive set (still in box) so might give that a try (considering the 3D Bee trainer but not sure if its output is compatible with this Vizio)
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post #153 of 346
8/15/11 at 8:24am
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Originally Posted by Bortonious View Post

Are you joking me. Your use is the misapplication. Your actually feeding it a sbs file and your then surprised it can generate a good 3d image. Your actualy doing some of the work for the converter.
If I did that with my projector/ any 3D TV I wouldnt need the monoprice box at all.

This unit is sold as a 2d to 3d converter (For 2d/3DTV/3D DLP Output). Thats how it should be judged.

Anywho, I guess it has its uses, but I would suggest that yours is not the typical scenario.

In MY OPINION its not sufficient for standard 2d streams (DVD DTV XBOX etc) outputing to a projector.

Hence.........its for sale

Ronomy outlined responses to this very well in his previous 2 replies.
Where is it a missapplication feeding it side by side MKV files outputting in the DLP link mode? Very good 3D. The only issue I see is sometimes I get pixelization but did not get any last night. I used a different hard drive along with my western digital
media player. I think the hard drive response could be an issue but need to investigate further. I think also in anaglyph mode there may be more pixelization but need to look at this further. In any event one mans junk can be another mans treasure.
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post #154 of 346
8/16/11 at 6:26pm
assuming I got appropriate settings on my "passive" Vizio tv and Creator, using a Pioneer DVD player for drive, faces/curves exhibited "sawtooth" edges - could some units be worse than others? - or a compatibility issue? - I didn't yet try driving the Creator with a Panasonic BDT310
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post #155 of 346
8/16/11 at 7:29pm
To reduce staircasing with 3d creator you need a 1080p source it's pretty poor image quality at 720p. It does not work with 1080i but you could use a Atlona HDMI Scaler
http://www.atlona.com/Atlona-Pal-HDM...ter-1080p.html
to upscale input to 1080p
But simply maybe the 3d-Bee will be a better choice
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post #156 of 346
8/17/11 at 9:07am
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Originally Posted by pheggie View Post

To reduce staircasing with 3d creator you need a 1080p source it's pretty poor image quality at 720p. It does not work with 1080i but you could use a Atlona HDMI Scaler
http://www.atlona.com/Atlona-Pal-HDM...ter-1080p.html
to upscale input to 1080p
But simply maybe the 3d-Bee will be a better choice

I'm using my WD media converter running through my Optoma HD3000 scaler and getting pretty damn good quality for side by side MKV files.
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post #157 of 346
8/23/11 at 9:07am
thanks pheggie - gotta admit the Monoprice 3D creator can look very good - driving it with a BDT310 into an E3D420VX. 1953 War Of The Worlds on dvd looks marvelous through the 3D creator. (what is this black box doing to the signal?) I believe the Monoprice looks better than BDT310's built-in converter. BDT310's built-in converter seems to "snag" on some pans.
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post #158 of 346
8/24/11 at 10:03pm
tried to watch the blu-ray of "How The West Was Won" but could not get the aspect ratio correct. The Monoprice unit looks fine with "The American Folk Blues Festival" (1962-66) dvds - that's good enough for me ! - its a lot of fun
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post #159 of 346
8/25/11 at 8:35am
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Originally Posted by freddyi View Post

tried to watch the blu-ray of "How The West Was Won" but could not get the aspect ratio correct. The Monoprice unit looks fine with "The American Folk Blues Festival" (1962-66) dvds - that's good enough for me ! - its a lot of fun

Yes I love this device too for side by side MKV movies using DLP mode. it's also acceptable using anaglyph for 2D displays. My Optoma HD3000 scaler delivers a nice signal to it making viewing a pleasure,
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post #160 of 346
8/25/11 at 9:00am
What kind of player are you using to play the mkv files?

Have you watched any 2D to 3D conversions lately (done by the Monoprice)?
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post #161 of 346
8/25/11 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post

What kind of player are you using to play the mkv files?

Have you watched any 2D to 3D conversions lately (done by the Monoprice)?

I use the Western Digital and the Mediagate to source my hard drive files. Both work well. Also their not the latest units.
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post #162 of 346
8/28/11 at 9:50am
I'm getting one of the new Optoma 3D projectors, once they start shipping. Currently I use HTPC & Dish as my sources. Anything SBS or full 3D, I can directly feed to the projector. So, I'm only interested in 2D to 3D conversion.

I'm trying to decide whether to get monoprice converter or a BD player that does 2D to 3D.

BD moves (2D) : Would work well with a BD player. How about PowerDVD ? Will monoprice converter work ?

Dish : The only option here would be monoprice converter. Will 1080i input work - or will it have to be in 720p ?

HTPC sources : Use PowerDVD or some other s/w to do 2d-3d conversions. Will Monoprice work with HTPC sourced material (1080p60) ?

BTW, is there a downloadable user manual that lists all the input/output resolutions and formats ?
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post #163 of 346
8/28/11 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

I'm getting one of the new Optoma 3D projectors, once they start shipping. Currently I use HTPC & Dish as my sources. Anything SBS or full 3D, I can directly feed to the projector. So, I'm only interested in 2D to 3D conversion.

I'm trying to decide whether to get monoprice converter or a BD player that does 2D to 3D. this is your decision

BD moves (2D) : Would work well with a BD player. How about PowerDVD ? Will monoprice converter work ? should as long as you present it 720p or 1080p 50/60hz

Dish : The only option here would be monoprice converter. Will 1080i input work - or will it have to be in 720p ?Can be either 720p or 1080p not interlace

HTPC sources : Use PowerDVD or some other s/w to do 2d-3d conversions. Will Monoprice work with HTPC sourced material (1080p60) ? should

BTW, is there a downloadable user manual that lists all the input/output resolutions and formats ?

There's an extensive listing for the product at monoprice.

i'm very happy with this converter's performance
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post #164 of 346
8/28/11 at 1:52pm
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

There's an extensive listing for the product at monoprice.

Specifically, are the listed resolutions input or output ?

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Supported Video Resolutions 480p, 720p, 1080p
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post #165 of 346
8/28/11 at 4:21pm
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Specifically, are the listed resolutions input or output ?

These are input resolutions
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post #166 of 346
8/28/11 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Specifically, are the listed resolutions input or output ?

Thx. So, is the output fixed at 720P ? I guess it will output the input resolution in Pass-through ...

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Pass-through, 3D Red/Cyan, 3D Side-by-Side, 3D Frame Sequential
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post #167 of 346
8/29/11 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by evnow View Post

Thx. So, is the output fixed at 720P ? I guess it will output the input resolution in Pass-through ...

It outputs 720p,120hz in 3D dlp mode.
In pass through it does not pass 1080p,24 hz frame packed.
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post #168 of 346
8/29/11 at 10:17am
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

It outputs 720p,120hz in 3D dlp mode.
In pass through it does not pass 1080p,24 hz frame packed.

It looks like I'll be better off with HTPC and/or BD player for 2D BD movies. That leaves Dish network - for which I'd need a converter.

Is there any other converter that will give me 1080p converted output ? If the difference in price is significant, 720p would still be ok, I guess.
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post #169 of 346
8/31/11 at 10:19am
3d-Bee has gone on sale but initially only to US-Residents, any willing Guinea Pigs?
http://www.3d-bee.com/store/
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post #170 of 346
8/31/11 at 10:58am
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Originally Posted by pheggie View Post
3d-Bee has gone on sale but initially only to US-Residents, any willing Guinea Pigs?
http://www.3d-bee.com/store/
Bit too rich for me ... (given I also use HTPC).
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post #171 of 346
9/1/11 at 12:02pm
I dove in with the "Home" version - hope it beats the Monoprice !!!!!
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post #172 of 346
9/1/11 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by freddyi View Post

I dove in with the "Home" version - hope it beats the Monoprice !!!!!

monoprice is great for side by side 3D
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post #173 of 346
9/1/11 at 3:32pm
the Monoprice unit sure is great with SBS ! - I wonder if a list of movies which look good with it could be compiled?
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post #174 of 346
9/2/11 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by freddyi View Post

I dove in with the "Home" version - hope it beats the Monoprice !!!!!

I am very interested in the home version also. Be sure to get back on the forum when it arrives and give us a description of the 2D-3D conversion capability.
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post #175 of 346
9/2/11 at 6:38am
sure will - so far no word from VeFxi - they're probably busy trying to get the operation moving
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post #176 of 346
9/11/11 at 10:38am
This is a great forum with a lot of info and knowledgeable people. I still couldn't find all my answers, so hopefully anyone here can help me.

My setup is:
- Optoma HD66 dlp projector, connected with hdm 1.4 cable to the receiver
- Xbox 360
- Comcast cable television
- DVD player (do not care for the bluray yet)
- Denon AVR-591 3d receiver with 4hdmi 4.1 inputs, 1 hdmi 1.4 output
- 106" screen

Primary goal right now is to have xbox 360 2d games, shows, sports and movies in regular 2d converted to 3d. So no need for blu ray conversion yet.

My main question is: will the Monoprice 3d creator convert Comcast HD, Xbox 360 2d games and regular dvd's and will I be able to watch it without having to buy the Optoma 3d-xl or VIP Theater? Or do I still need one of those? I saw this questions a few times in this thread but couldn't find a definite answer.

Related questions:
- Will it work with both 2x Red/Cyan 3D glasses and DLP link glasses. So can I try it first with the glasses that come with it? I know dlp glasses give better quality, but I want to try the setup first before I buy glasses.
- What would be the best setup? I assume the 3d creator after the receiver and before the projector.
- I will probably move back to Europe next year. I assume the DC 5V/1A power adaptor will work in Europe without any problems?

Thanks in advance for the reponse. If this all works I will probably order one right away.
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post #177 of 346
9/12/11 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by albero67 View Post

This is a great forum with a lot of info and knowledgeable people. I still couldn't find all my answers, so hopefully anyone here can help me.

My setup is:
- Optoma HD66 dlp projector, connected with hdm 1.4 cable to the receiver
- Xbox 360
- Comcast cable television
- DVD player (do not care for the bluray yet)
- Denon AVR-591 3d receiver with 4hdmi 4.1 inputs, 1 hdmi 1.4 output
- 106" screen

Primary goal right now is to have xbox 360 2d games, shows, sports and movies in regular 2d converted to 3d. So no need for blu ray conversion yet.

My main question is: will the Monoprice 3d creator convert Comcast HD, Xbox 360 2d games and regular dvd's and will I be able to watch it without having to buy the Optoma 3d-xl or VIP Theater? Or do I still need one of those? I saw this questions a few times in this thread but couldn't find a definite answer.

Related questions:
- Will it work with both 2x Red/Cyan 3D glasses and DLP link glasses. So can I try it first with the glasses that come with it? I know dlp glasses give better quality, but I want to try the setup first before I buy glasses.
- What would be the best setup? I assume the 3d creator after the receiver and before the projector.
- I will probably move back to Europe next year. I assume the DC 5V/1A power adaptor will work in Europe without any problems?

Thanks in advance for the reponse. If this all works I will probably order one right away.

As far as working with xbox I don't know. It will give real 3d for source material in side by side half. I have media players that feed the unit and watch both anaglyph and DLP mode. Both are good but I prefer the DLP mode.
However I viewed a version of avatar in dubois anaglyph and it was awesome with no ghosting and colors were more natural. Power DVD 11 is supposed to use the dubois method. If All anaglyph were done this way I would not hesitate to use it more.
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post #178 of 346
9/12/11 at 6:50pm
So I don't need Optoma 3d-xl or VIP Theater to watch 3d converted content on a dlp 3d ready projector like the optoma hd66? Just the monoprice 3d creator?
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post #179 of 346
9/12/11 at 7:17pm
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Originally Posted by albero67 View Post

So I don't need Optoma 3d-xl or VIP Theater to watch 3d converted content on a dlp 3d ready projector like the optoma hd66? Just the monoprice 3d creator?

You can either use the 2D to 3D conversion/anaglyph/dlp mode or side by side half to 3D anaglyph or DLP mode with your HD66. I have the acer H5360 and 2D projectors I view anaglyph 3D.
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post #180 of 346
9/12/11 at 7:37pm
Great, thanks a lot for the info. Then I think I will order the box.
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