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post #31 of 346
6/29/11 at 6:41am
Sweet! I think I'll order one!

Its in the mail! I mainly want it to calibrate in 3D using a standard 2D calibration disc but if it works well enough I will use it for movies that work with it.
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post #32 of 346
6/29/11 at 12:31pm
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

Sweet! I think I'll order one!

Its in the mail! I mainly want it to calibrate in 3D using a standard 2D calibration disc but if it works well enough I will use it for movies that work with it.

I ordered one as well. Now that I'm hooked to 3D I want everything in 3D
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post #33 of 346
6/29/11 at 1:29pm
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I ordered one as well. Now that I'm hooked to 3D I want everything in 3D

I don't want to wear the glasses unless it's native 3d. Even certain blus that were not originally 3d like shrek don't seem worth to playback in 3d to me.
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post #34 of 346
6/29/11 at 1:57pm
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I ordered one as well. Now that I'm hooked to 3D I want everything in 3D

I know its all new for my home theater but I bet to will wear off in time. I may not even care for what this convert does but I'll be able to color calibrate with the glasses on.
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post #35 of 346
6/29/11 at 2:59pm
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I know its all new for my home theater but I bet to will wear off in time. I may not even care for what this convert does but I'll be able to color calibrate with the glasses on.

This is supposed to be the same as the 2D to 3D converter in the Samsung. I work with a guy who has the Samsung and says while it doesn't do anything to pop out but adds depth to scenes and is descent in adding another dimension to viewing 2D source material. he also does video processor work and says they have lots of trouble going from HDMI to DVI interfaces with colorspace issues.
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post #36 of 346
6/29/11 at 11:34pm
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Can it be used with a 2D TV? What kind of glasses and emitter does it need/use?

i think no
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post #37 of 346
6/30/11 at 2:18am
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Originally Posted by leadergoo View Post

i think no

Think Again.

Again in this thread.... Yes, it's designed to be used with both 3D and non 3D tvs.


It can make anaglyph 3D for non 3D TV's. It even comes with the anaglyph glasses.

Do you see all the buttons for 2DTV on the remote?



-Brian
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post #38 of 346
6/30/11 at 4:44pm
Will this device convert 3D to 3D Checkerboard to make it compatible with 3D ready DLP HDTVs?
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post #39 of 346
7/1/11 at 6:15am
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Will this device convert 3D to 3D Checkerboard to make it compatible with 3D ready DLP HDTVs?

Don't think so...Its only for converting 2D to 3D. I am using the VIP 3D Theatre for what you want. I should have one of these 2D to 3D converters either today or tomorrow and will post back on how it works.

Update: It appears if you have DLP link shutter glasses this device will decode 2D and 3D for use with a 3D ready DLP projector! Wow! This is a cheap means to get 3D. I like my RF glasses and VIP Theater but the price difference is substantial. I don't have DLP link glasses to try it.

Also the manual says it might have problems with 24p 3D sources so maybe not a good all in one option if anyone is thinking of using it to do it all.
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post #40 of 346
7/1/11 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by hendrix09 View Post

Does anybody know if this box would work as a cheaper alternative to the 3d-xl or one of the VIP products if all I wanted to do was watch side-by-side MKV files on my optoma gt700 through a media player

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... you need a 3D TV or the VIP or 3D-xl to convert it so a 3D ready TV will display it.

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Update: It appears if you have DLP link shutter glasses this device will decode 2D and 3D for use with a 3D ready DLP projector! Wow! This is a cheap means to get 3D. I like my RF glasses and VIP Theater but the price difference is substantial. I don't have DLP link glasses to try it.

Just to clarify Ronomy, are you now stating that this unit can do what a VIP or 3D-xl can do if one uses 3D ready DLP FP (e.g. Acer 5360) as a "display"?
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post #41 of 346
7/1/11 at 7:59pm
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post
Don't think so...Its only for converting 2D to 3D. I am using the VIP 3D Theatre for what you want. I should have one of these 2D to 3D converters either today or tomorrow and will post back on how it works.

Update: It appears if you have DLP link shutter glasses this device will decode 2D and 3D for use with a 3D ready DLP projector! Wow! This is a cheap means to get 3D. I like my RF glasses and VIP Theater but the price difference is substantial. I don't have DLP link glasses to try it.

Also the manual says it might have problems with 24p 3D sources so maybe not a good all in one option if anyone is thinking of using it to do it all.
To clarify are you saying that this will convert 3D to 3D Checkerboard for 3D ready DLP HDTVs like a Mitsubishi 3DA-1 will?
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post #42 of 346
7/2/11 at 7:52am
Last night I couldn't get it to pass 3D on bluray. I had to remove it from the circuit.

It does a very good job converting 2D to 3D SBS but I will have to leave it disconnected because its unusable with 3D on bluray with my VIP downstream. I don't have DLP link glasses so can't say if it will work by itself. The fact it doesn't work with 3D on bluray sucks.

Just checked the manual and confirmed it will only work with SBS 3D format. I wish it would at least bypass frame packed 3D on bluray but it doesn't.
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post #43 of 346
7/2/11 at 10:09am
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Last night I couldn't get it to pass 3D on bluray. I had to remove it from the circuit.

It does a very good job converting 2D to 3D SBS but I will have to leave it disconnected because its unusable with 3D on bluray with my VIP downstream. I don't have DLP link glasses so can't say if it will work by itself. The fact it doesn't work with 3D on bluray sucks.

Just checked the manual and confirmed it will only work with SBS 3D format. I wish it would at least bypass frame packed 3D on bluray but it doesn't.

If it is supposed to work with DLP what is used as the source? Also what did you use besides BR3D as a source? Incidently can get expand 102's at BJ's if your a member. If they don't work out can always return them.
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post #44 of 346
7/2/11 at 10:15am
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Originally Posted by derek View Post

Will be interesting to see how effective the monoprice unit is (limited to 720p 3d output formats) and hopefully can at least stand it's own with the built-in conversion functions of the 3D flat panels. At $99 it severely undercuts the other real-time consumer pieces (http://www.videoefx.com/ & www.3D-Bee.com) which are forthcoming.

So VideoEFX box has now changed to 3D-Bee in name with a different / better look to the box at least. Name kind of questionable still but graphics & design on new web site remain not very cool. I'm sure the product is much better than site design from several reports I've read and long response from sales or marketing person after CES. Have been waiting on this one to show up.
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post #45 of 346
7/2/11 at 10:20am
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If it is supposed to work with DLP what is used as the source? Also what did you use besides BR3D as a source? Incidently can get expand 102's at BJ's if your a member. If they don't work out can always return them.

It will process only 3d SBS and output frame sequential to a DLP link setup. It will also do the same for 2D to 3D conversion.

If you have a VIP it will convert 2D to SBS format that the VIP picks up on and converts to frame sequential. Frame packed on 3D blurays will not pass through it even in bypass which sucks. I can't leave it in my setup and use bypass.

I could maybe put it between my Directv receiver and Duo to process 2D but if i want to watch over under ESPN it will probably not pass any video in bypass mode. so right now I don't see a place I can put this in my setup other than plug it in when i want to watch a show that is 2D in 3D. Pain in the butt if you ask me.

I wish it would pass 3D Bluray because it does a fine job converting 2D to 3D.
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post #46 of 346
7/2/11 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

It will process only 3d SBS and output frame sequential to a DLP link setup. It will also do the same for 2D to 3D conversion.

If you have a VIP it will convert 2D to SBS format that the VIP picks up on and converts to frame sequential. Frame packed on 3D blurays will not pass through it even in bypass which sucks. I can't leave it in my setup and use bypass.

I could maybe put it between my Directv receiver and Duo to process 2D but if i want to watch over under ESPN it will probably not pass any video in bypass mode. so right now I don't see a place I can put this in my setup other than plug it in when i want to watch a show that is 2D in 3D. Pain in the butt if you ask me.

I wish it would pass 3D Bluray because it does a fine job converting 2D to 3D.

Does it convert 2D to frame sequential? I also thought it had pass through function
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post #47 of 346
7/2/11 at 10:57am
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Does it convert 2D to frame sequential? I also thought it had pass through function

It has pass through but it will not pass through 3D formats to the VIP other than 2D converted to SBS. If it outputs frame sequential the VIp doesn't know what to do with it so no signal posted on the projector. If I take the VIP out of the circuit it would probably work with the projector set to DLP link using DLP link shutter glasses but I use a VIP for that.

Still it can't be used with frame packed 3D Bluray. Are there any blurays in SBS? It says in the manual it will not work with 24p and that may be the problem.
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post #48 of 346
7/2/11 at 11:11am
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It has pass through but it will not pass through 3D formats to the VIP other than 2D converted to SBS. If it outputs frame sequential the VIp doesn't know what to do with it so no signal posted on the projector. If I take the VIP out of the circuit it would probably work with the projector set to DLP link using DLP link shutter glasses but I use a VIP for that.

Still it can't be used with frame packed 3D Bluray. Are there any blurays in SBS? It says in the manual it will not work with 24p and that may be the problem.

Looks Like my unit is out for delivery today along with my new HDMI switcher.
I may get the DLP link glasses from Amazon since I have money earned back on my credit card. Need to rsearchbest for the money. BJ's was charging me shipping and tax not a good deal.
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post #49 of 346
7/2/11 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

Looks Like my unit is out for delivery today along with my new HDMI switcher.
I may get the DLP link glasses from Amazon since I have money earned back on my credit card. Need to rsearchbest for the money. BJ's was charging me shipping and tax not a good deal.

Let me know how i works out for you! I have an HDMi splitter and a Monoprice switcher. I might try connecting the switcher to my H5360 then connect my VIP to one input and the 2D to 3D converter to the other. Then use the splitter on the output of my Duo to feed both the VIP and Monoprice converter separately. Not sure how the Duo will handle that though.
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post #50 of 346
7/2/11 at 11:27am
Forgot to mention no BR in SBS that I'm aware of, just Anaglyph red/cayan or magenta/green. Since I have this unit coming I watched a BR Anaglyph last night.
Now don't laugh but it was Hanna Montana Concert. Suffered through the music but the 3D was pretty spectacular with no ghosting just the color issues with glasses although not that bad. But no battery issues or adjustments or flicker.
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post #51 of 346
7/2/11 at 11:37am
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Forgot to mention no BR in SBS that I'm aware of, just Anaglyph red/cayan or magenta/green. Since I have this unit coming I watched a BR Anaglyph last night.
Now don't laugh but it was Hanna Montana Concert. Suffered through the music but the 3D was pretty spectacular with no ghosting just the color issues with glasses although not that bad. But no battery issues or adjustments or flicker.

I have Journey to the center of the Earth in anaglyph and its not bad but i hate the two color system. 3D will full color is awesome. I watched How to Train your Dragon last night in 3D. WOW! Awesome 3D!

Blacks could be better although using the bright mode on the Acer gave the dark images a lot more punch. Bright images were not as good as using Movie mode though. Sharpness is not an issue with a 30 degree viewing angle. 720p looks fine at this distance.
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post #52 of 346
7/2/11 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

I have Journey to the center of the Earth in anaglyph and its not bad but i hate the two color system. 3D will full color is awesome. I watched How to Train your Dragon last night in 3D. WOW! Awesome 3D!

Blacks could be better although using the bright mode on the Acer gave the dark images a lot more punch. Bright images were not as good as using Movie mode though. Sharpness is not an issue with a 30 degree viewing angle. 720p looks fine at this distance.

I have silver screens so they aid contrast and blacks. Incidently the journey anaglyph 3D is not as good in my opinion as the the Hanna Montana one once you get past the music. There's a scene where they release the confetti that is something else near the end. Beware though screaming little kids. it's intersting you said it does a descent job of 2D to 3D conversion.
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post #53 of 346
7/2/11 at 12:21pm
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I have silver screens so they aid contrast and blacks. Incidently the journey anaglyph 3D is not as good in my opinion as the the Hanna Montana one once you get past the music. There's a scene where they release the confetti that is something else near the end. Beware though screaming little kids. it's intersting you said it does a descent job of 2D to 3D conversion.

Commercials even looked great! LOL

Journey was good under ground and falling down the lava tube.

I still need to try anaglyph with the converter on my JVC RS1. Maybe installing it between my Directv Receiver and Duo will be the best place for this.

Ow also it needs to be fed either 1080p or 720p. It will not work in 3D with a 1080i signal. It must be 720p/60 or 1080p/60! 50hz works too!
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post #54 of 346
7/2/11 at 12:54pm
the new toys just arrived. Will post my findings. Researching DLP link glasses to try with it.
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post #55 of 346
7/2/11 at 1:43pm
Vuzix has some titles although not blue ray that are side by side although somewhat expensive.
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post #56 of 346
7/2/11 at 1:59pm
Also check out this site:

http://www.3dsbs.com/3d-sbs-movies/
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post #57 of 346
7/2/11 at 4:00pm
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Also check out this site:

http://www.3dsbs.com/3d-sbs-movies/

Wow that site looks interesting!
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post #58 of 346
7/2/11 at 4:40pm
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Wow that site looks interesting!

I wonder what the catch is. They claim free downloads.
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post #59 of 346
7/2/11 at 5:09pm
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I wonder what the catch is. They claim free downloads.

Yeah I just ordered a new Avatar 3D BD off Ebay. I can't wait until March next year to buy one.
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post #60 of 346
7/3/11 at 8:30am
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the new toys just arrived. Will post my findings. Researching DLP link glasses to try with it.

Well! What do you think of the converter?
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