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post #61 of 346
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

Well! What do you think of the converter?

I didn't get to play with it last night. Watched Coriline another BR anaglph magenta/green movie. 3D is very good. It was too late to try. I Will try to run the 2D through it tonight to see how it fairs in conversion. I don't have the theater that handles side by side so I will need to do anaglph since I don't have DLP glasses. Not sure which ones to get yet.
post #62 of 346
Forgot to mention. That site for side by side, once the download manager is installed it is charging for the service not the movies. Need to research more.
post #63 of 346
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

I didn't get to play with it last night. Watched Coriline another BR anaglph magenta/green movie. 3D is very good. It was too late to try. I Will try to run the 2D through it tonight to see how it fairs in conversion. I don't have the theater that handles side by side so I will need to do anaglph since I don't have DLP glasses. Not sure which ones to get yet.

I think the VIP dlp link glasses are cheap enough and don't tint the image any. Bummer you didn't get the Theater unit but in this case I have to keep it disconnected anyway. Not sure yet how or where I will install this converter. I thnk it may be best connected directly to the projector and use DLP link glasses so you can use frame sequential output instead of side by side.
post #64 of 346
Listed input signal types are: 2D, 3DTV, 3D DLP

Listed output signal types are: Pass-through, 3D Red/Cyan, 3D Side-by-Side, 3D Frame Sequential.

The affordable 3D DLP projectors currently use the 3D frame sequential format.

Will this device allow for input of 3DTV from Directv, which is side-by-side, to be ouput in the frame sequential format?

Will this accept any of the frame packing 3DTV formats output by the PS3, and output them in frame sequential? I believe these are 1080p 24hz for movies, and 720p 60hz for games.
post #65 of 346
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

I think the VIP dlp link glasses are cheap enough and don't tint the image any. Bummer you didn't get the Theater unit but in this case I have to keep it disconnected anyway. Not sure yet how or where I will install this converter. I thnk it may be best connected directly to the projector and use DLP link glasses so you can use frame sequential output instead of side by side.

I found a pair that got good reviews for 52 bucks on Amazon. I have so many things on my plate to try:
1. Check out the 2D to 3D converter
2. Check out the new HDMI switcher
3. Try out the HDFury on Cable box to make sure it works. Bought a power connector and placed on old blacberry charger I took the connector off for the Displayer
4. See if my HDFury2 will allow me to go in through component and bypass the scaler for use with HD7100 and the TX-100. It's a HDCP compliant HDMI to RGB/component converter with up to 1080p resolution.
post #66 of 346
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Originally Posted by action_jackson View Post

Listed input signal types are: 2D, 3DTV, 3D DLP

Listed output signal types are: Pass-through, 3D Red/Cyan, 3D Side-by-Side, 3D Frame Sequential.

The affordable 3D DLP projectors currently use the 3D frame sequential format.

Will this device allow for input of 3DTV from Directv, which is side-by-side, to be ouput in the frame sequential format?

Will this accept any of the frame packing 3DTV formats output by the PS3, and output them in frame sequential? I believe these are 1080p 24hz for movies, and 720p 60hz for games.

It might work with DLP link and projectors that have a VESA emitter output. When I said it wouldn't work with frame pack it may have been output frame seqential that the VIP wouldn't pass. The manual says it may not work with 24p 3D frame pack from a 3D bluray player. Yet is shows that as a valid setup. It contradicts itself.
post #67 of 346
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

It might work with DLP link and projectors that have a VESA emitter output. When I said it wouldn't work with frame pack it may have been output frame seqential that the VIP wouldn't pass. The manual says it may not work with 24p 3D frame pack from a 3D bluray player. Yet is shows that as a valid setup. It contradicts itself.

According to what I have seen in the manual that if you supply it side by side
720p/1080p 50/60 hz it will work. I did not find any indication of of inputting frame packed.
post #68 of 346
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

According to what I have seen in the manual that if you supply it side by side
720p/1080p 50/60 hz it will work. I did not find any indication of of inputting frame packed.

So it should work with DTV broadcast 3D, but not PS3 or blu-ray, correct?
post #69 of 346
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Originally Posted by action_jackson View Post

So it should work with DTV broadcast 3D, but not PS3 or blu-ray, correct?

As long as it is side by side half
post #70 of 346
That's why I asked if there were SBS Blurays cause they show it working with a bluray player yet they say may not work with 24p.
post #71 of 346
I should try connecting it directy to my Acer and find out if I get a double image with blurays. I don't have dlp link glasses but a double image would confirm if it works or not.
post #72 of 346
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

I should try connecting it directy to my Acer and find out if I get a double image with blurays. I don't have dlp link glasses but a double image would confirm if it works or not.

I ordered my dlp link glasses from Amazon. I had 4700 points to use =47 dollars so they only cost me 10 bucks. I'm setup to play around tonight. I'm terying to find out how I can use downloads from 3DSBS site. If I can get them into a file my media player can use I should be able to stream them to this converter. I don't want to waste money although they have a nominal 10 dollar charge for a month which is not much. Although when their screen appears it doesn't look like I can proceed because I get the hour glass.
post #73 of 346
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

I ordered my dlp link glasses from Amazon. I had 4700 points to use =47 dollars so they only cost me 10 bucks. I'm setup to play around tonight. I'm terying to find out how I can use downloads from 3DSBS site. If I can get them into a file my media player can use I should be able to stream them to this converter. I don't want to waste money although they have a nominal 10 dollar charge for a month which is not much. Although when their screen appears it doesn't look like I can proceed because I get the hour glass.

I don't want to spend money on DLP link glasses. I love the RF glasses and contast is very good in most scenes. Dlp link will be washed out. The darkest scenes could be better even with the RF glasses. They would be worse with DLP link. I am used to an RS1 so blacks are pretty black in 2D especially with my long throw setup. Other than that the Acer looks great. Colors are much better than an RS1 before calibrating with my Duo. Acer isn't far off with color out of the box. My Duo makes it thow a nice image in 2D.
post #74 of 346
Confirmed...does not work with frame pack from blurays. It will process SBS and convert 2D to 3D. It will output frame sequential for dlp link or SBS for us VIP owners.
post #75 of 346
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

Confirmed...does not work with frame pack from blurays. It will process SBS and convert 2D to 3D. It will output frame sequential for dlp link or SBS for us VIP owners.

I didn't try 3D BR but checked out the 2D to 3D anaglyph in which I thought it did a respectable job. Sometimes depending on scene colors was not easy on the eyes but I think using DLP Link might work out better. Looked like it did pass through fine. Would love to get some side by side source material.
Did see it created for side by side and double image for DLP.
post #76 of 346
Yup! Same here but it doesn't bypass frame pack so I have to remove it from the signal path to the projector.
post #77 of 346
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

Yup! Same here but it doesn't bypass frame pack so I have to remove it from the signal path to the projector.

Check out a comment I left on the JVC thread.
post #78 of 346
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

Check out a comment I left on the JVC thread.

Might be good to post a link to it if you want someone to find it. Which JVC thread? I did look at last pages of RS40 and 50 posts but no luck....
post #79 of 346
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Originally Posted by RonF View Post

Might be good to post a link to it if you want someone to find it. Which JVC thread? I did look at last pages of RS40 and 50 posts but no luck....

This topic

A call to all JVC users wishing to use the VIP 3D Theatre device
post #80 of 346
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Originally Posted by Ronomy View Post

Confirmed...does not work with frame pack from blurays. It will process SBS and convert 2D to 3D. It will output frame sequential for dlp link or SBS for us VIP owners.

Forgetting 3D Blu-Rays for a minute, Have you tried taking the VIP out of the equation and letting the converter use a 2D or a 3D SBS input and go directly to a 3D ready projector using 3D frame sequential DLP mode as the output?? If this works then there is no need for a VIP or 3dxl if all you want to do is 2D conversion and access the 3D SBS channels from Directv or other SBS sources..
post #81 of 346
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post

Forgetting 3D Blu-Rays for a minute, Have you tried taking the VIP out of the equation and letting the converter use a 2D or a 3D SBS input and go directly to a 3D ready projector using 3D frame sequential DLP mode as the output?? If this works then there is no need for a VIP or 3dxl if all you want to do is 2D conversion and access the 3D SBS channels from Directv or other SBS sources..

I'm going to try this once I get my DLP Link glasses. It does a descent job using the red/cayan option for 2D conversion. trying to get side by side source material other than cable requires some research. 3DSBS.com advertises available side by side material but not sure how to get the downloads and get them compiled to stream to the unit.
post #82 of 346
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post

Forgetting 3D Blu-Rays for a minute, Have you tried taking the VIP out of the equation and letting the converter use a 2D or a 3D SBS input and go directly to a 3D ready projector using 3D frame sequential DLP mode as the output?? If this works then there is no need for a VIP or 3dxl if all you want to do is 2D conversion and access the 3D SBS channels from Directv or other SBS sources..

I did try this last night! If you have DLP link or a projector with an emitter output you can watch 2D converted to 3D and SBS 3D output as frame sequential. You just can't us it with Bluray movies.
post #83 of 346
If anyone has got this working on 2D to 3D conversion would you care to comment on the quality of the conversion? (I know, I know, I am not expecting "Alice in Wonderland" 3D quality conversion but in general is this device worth having?)

What 2D material (movies) seems to work best here? Name those movies that look interesting being converted.
post #84 of 346
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post
If anyone has got this working on 2D to 3D conversion would you care to comment on the quality of the conversion? (I know, I know, I am not expecting "Alice in Wonderland" 3D quality conversion but in general is this device worth having?)

What 2D material (movies) seems to work best here? Name those movies that look interesting being converted.
I only watched some TV with it and the 3D effect was very good. A lot of depth. However because it doesn't pass frame pack on Blurays I had to remove it so I don't plan to use it except for when I run a calibration I can use 2D test screens while in 3D mode.
post #85 of 346
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post
If anyone has got this working on 2D to 3D conversion would you care to comment on the quality of the conversion? (I know, I know, I am not expecting "Alice in Wonderland" 3D quality conversion but in general is this device worth having?)

What 2D material (movies) seems to work best here? Name those movies that look interesting being converted.
I ran it on Coriline, since I have the 3D anaglyph oh the movie. I did the red/cayan 2D to 3D mode and thought it did a descent job of adding depth to the scenes. I Think it will even be better once I get my DLP glasses. it can do side by side half which I'm trying to find material for. Since I only have the VIP Displayer this gives me access to this form of 3D. I'm glad I purchased it so far. Still need to use it more.
post #86 of 346
MKOSS and RONOMY:

Now that you have had a few days with the converter do you have any additional comments (good or bad) on the 2D to 3D Monoprice converter??
post #87 of 346
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post

MKOSS and RONOMY:

Now that you have had a few days with the converter do you have any additional comments (good or bad) on the 2D to 3D Monoprice converter??

I have not used it since i tried it. It will not pass Bluray 3D so I had to remove it. I only wanted it for 2D to 3D conversion but I have no easy way to leave it in my system so that I can watch 3D bluray. I have a VIP Theatre and that does everything except 2D to 3D conversion. I will probably only use the Monoprice converter to run a grey scale cal with the glasses and leave it disconnected. Sorry! Mkoss is getting DLP link glasses so he should be able to tell you how it works soon.

Ron
post #88 of 346
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post

MKOSS and RONOMY:

Now that you have had a few days with the converter do you have any additional comments (good or bad) on the 2D to 3D Monoprice converter??

I got the DLP glasses and will try some 2D to 3D this weekend and report on it. What I'm really interested in is getting some side by side 3D source material. I may subscribe to cable to get it.
post #89 of 346
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Originally Posted by HTFAN007 View Post

MKOSS and RONOMY:

Now that you have had a few days with the converter do you have any additional comments (good or bad) on the 2D to 3D Monoprice converter??

I thought I had a new version of Coriline which is 3D BR but it's the same movie as the anaglyph movie which I thought had good 3D. The 3D BR was even better using the 3D DLP Acer H5630. Now that I have my DLP glasses I decided to compare using the 2D to 3D DLP and was actually quite surprised at how good it is. I thought the anaglyph 2D to 3D was descent but this was much better. What a bargain at less than 100 dollars. I didn't watch the whole movie again which is quite long but can't wait to get my hands on some side by side material.
post #90 of 346
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Originally Posted by mkoss View Post

I thought I had a new version of Coriline which is 3D BR but it's the same movie as the anaglyph movie which I thought had good 3D. The 3D BR was even better using the 3D DLP Acer H5630. Now that I have my DLP glasses I decided to compare using the 2D to 3D DLP and was actually quite surprised at how good it is. I thought the anaglyph 2D to 3D was descent but this was much better. What a bargain at less than 100 dollars. I didn't watch the whole movie again which is quite long but can't wait to get my hands on some side by side material.

Did you say you watched a 3D bluray with the Monoprice converter using DLP link glasses?

Also how did the contrast look with DLP link turned on compared to the VIP and external emitter?

Did the dlp link glasses change the color temp or show a green cast on the image?
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