Originally Posted by JimWilson
I'd be more then happy to give him the low down on XTZ, but I think he had a size restriction and the 99 series are not really all that small.
I *would* like to consider the XTZ 99 W.10.16 if it is suitable for my room size. I read your review and know that you are high on it. I believe that you even kept the unit. The ported/sealed option is intriguing.
Any idea how it would compare to the SB12-NSD?
I compared dimensions and their volumes are almost identical. The XTZ is a bit taller and deeper, but narrower so it will take up less linear wall space. I have the green light for either of these from my wife.
I took the XTZ all the way to the checkout to see what it would cost. Unfortunately, I have to pay sales tax in IL. Not sure if that means that there is a physical presence in IL like a warehouse, or if this is just due to our governor's quest to get more revenue from online shopping. WI charged tax as well, so having a relative buy it for me won't work either.
Cost in gloss black is $580 vs. $680 for the SVS. That's close enough to get the better one and ignore cost.
The web site had a "Get A Quote" option that makes it sound like prices might not be hard and fast. Don't know exactly how that works. Perhaps it applies only when ordering multiple products.
Lest I be accused of just sitting back and waiting for the good people on this thread to give me answers
, I tried to do my DD and investigate other options. This would not be a comprehensive, no-stone-unturned project, but I wanted to make a reasonable effort to make sure I didn’t miss something better.
Jim said that my options were limited and he was right. Finding something Minx-compatible for our room in my size and price range is difficult. I decided to narrow the search to subs mentioned in this thread, both the ones that were suggested specifically to me and ones that I found in other posts. In particular, Bazzy had an extensive list a number of months ago.
I didn’t want to complicate the issue (I’ve been accused of that in the past
), and I erred on the side of excluding rather than including. To get overlap with the sats, I required 200 Hz. I also set a minimum power of 300W. I felt that I could find a single sub solution and set a limit of $1000. The size limit was arbitrary and capricious.
My parameters are not a guarantee that they would work in our room, but it would be a starting point. Here is all I came up with:
Emotiva X-Ref 12
Martin Logan 700W
Martin Logan 1000W
My wife eliminated the SB-1000 (“Wood grain? Are you kidding?”). An AVS Forum thread on the SB12-NSD convinced me that it was superior to the Emotiva. There just didn’t seem to be any reason to pick either CA sub over the SB12-NSD, other than size. I’m sure the x300 would be too small. My adult ADD kicked in and I got bored and moved on without ever evaluating the Martin Logans.
So the winner was the SVS SB12-NSD. I know that Jim feels it is too small for our 2700 ft^3 room. I feel that it will be fine based on our usage. The Audioholics review gave it Certified Medium rating, so that makes me feel better about it. I would prefer to be more in the middle of the size range rather than at the top end, but I think I’ll be fine. I like the broad, flat response curve.
I *did* give consideration to two smaller, cheaper subs like the ESW-M8. It came down to more even coverage vs. lower bass for movies. I chose lower bass. I just need to find the best location in the room and reserve that spot for me
The XTZ was not on my radar when I did this. I would like to put it up against the SB12-NSD and I will have my answer.