The Plains Theater - Page 27

Well, my hat channel came in yesterday....... You guessed it, not the right stuff I took a piece of what I'm looking for and showed them, and they are trying to order some. I've also found another supplier, but it's nearly an hour drive one way to get it. That will be a last resort if my local supplier can't find it. It's been a pretty consistent story everywhere I've called though. The first thing they say is, "No one uses that stuff anymore. Let me check and see if we've still got some in the yard."

Carry on

You hit the nail on the head! I'm trying to keep a good attitude about it because my local supplier is MUCH cheaper on their drywall than anywhere else in town. One of our cars sprung a leak yesterday, so my wife is driving the truck. You know you've put off that trip to the shop too long when you get that steady stream of steam out of from under the hood at the traffic lights

If we haven't found some channel locally by the time we get the car back, I'll just bite the bullet and make the drive. No point in cutting corners now

in all honesty, I've thought several times about coming to help. It'd be cool to have a South East meet. Of course, then the reality of having a wife, two kids, a job, and grad school come crashing down........... Thanks, Fred..... Thanks for bringing that up!

J/K. I wish you were closer, I'd love meet you and see what you've got going on in person. It would certainly help with my motivation seeing someone else with the illness

Thanks guys!

auburnu008, believe me, I'm way more anxious to watch a movie than you are BTW, when they start building your room, if you use clips and channel you should double check the channel they use. The stuff from Marjam is a mixed bag. Some IS 25 ga., but some is definitely NOT.

RT, I hope it doesn't sound like I'm whining. I realize you guys don't get to "hear" how I mean everything I post. While a lot of this is a frustration, I really try to look on the positive side of it. After all, I'm building a room that I've wanted to build for YEARS! It really can't be too bad I'm still having fun, it's just moving a little slower than I'd hoped

Nick, Aye Aye, Cap'n!

I'm working, but I doubt it's anything you guys are interested in!

In other news unrelated to the theater, the diagnosis on the car is a hole in the radiator. We're waiting on parts for that. We're also having a whole home dehumidifier installed on Monday or Tuesday. Our house has been entirely too humid since we moved in. One of the drawbacks to spray foam insulation I'm told. Fortunately, our HVAC contractor is going to install it for his costs (which is cheaper than I can get the unit online). It's a bummer that we're having to do it, but at least our HVAC contractor is standing by his word to make his installs right for minimal cost. He told us up front that if the upgraded HVAC unit wouldn't deal with the heat/cool/humidity, then he would only charge us for the additional equipment at his costs with no labor.

No worries I've probably read the same article. The new dehumidifier also has a fresh air exchanger as well (ERV maybe).

We actually upgraded to the two stage compressor to deal with the short cycles times and it worked well last summer. Unfortunately, this winter has been mild enough that the AC doesn't run, but it's been crazy humid and damp! So I think even a conventional home would have issues this year. Our contractor said they just don't see winters like this down here.

All that said, we compared power bills from a year ago, and we went from a house that's 1/3 the size with conventional insulation to our new home and our power bill did not change. So I think the foam was a good decision. We'll see

Radiator was $250. It's a CRV that's about 10 years old, so no intercoolers or fancy business like that. It's the beater, and the daily driver since my truck gets about 11mpg down hill with a tail wind. My wife's been driving the truck, but I should get it back tomorrow. I'm going to try to get that channel tomorrow. We'll see until then, I'm taking a building vacation, too

Oh, before I go on construction vacation, here's a quick update. I've got my door in (temporarily). This will give me an idea of where to run my DW so that I can minimize the gap around the door. I'm sure I'll need to tweak it a bit afterwards. Let me tell you, hanging one of these by yourself..... it's a bit of a challenge I think I mentioned it before, but it's worth mentioning again, I didn't order a door on an exterior jamb (I ordered an interior door), but this is what I got. It will probably work out for the best, though. Those jambs are ~1-1/4" thick rather than the standard jambs (3/4" maybe?). So it should make for a sturdy door.



And a view from the inside



Here's a picture showing how far the jamb overhangs the landing on the other side. I took off the metal threshold, and I'll have to make something to cover the edge of the hardwoods as well as hide the bottom of the jamb. A more pressing issue is I'll have to come up with a way to support my threshold. Right now I'm leaning towards laminating some 2x + plywood with GG between to make up the difference. I'm open to suggestions, though.



Here's another picture to help show what I'm dealing with. The door and jamb will hang over the clips+channel+DD unless I put something on the landing inside the room to support it. I have no idea why they stopped the hardwoods there instead of running them the rest of the way out.

There are a few reasons I wanted the door to swing in. Primarily because this door is at the end of a short, narrow, hallway that will have 3 doors in it. I was afraid that a door could get opened into the hallway and block the other doors from being opened. Also, while it's not a residential building code that I'm aware of, it's generally a good practice to have the doors swing into the room.

With that said, had I thought about this issue further in advance, I may well have considered other options for door swings.

And yes, I will have clips and channel under the door. I'm waiting to run the bottom row of channel around my room until I get most of the stuff off the floor. It'll make it easier setup my laser level and door the room in two passes. Also, I need to get this threshold support business worked out so I'll know how low to put my clips and channel.


Hinge side framing is plumb, so I screw directly to that. The other side is a bit off, but I think I've got between 1/4" and 1/2" on that side. So I think I'll be able to shim it. I wasn't expecting my door to have 1-1/2" jambs on it, or I would have made my opening a bit larger.

Are you suggesting that I put clips and channel on the support as well, or just laminate DD+GG onto the threshold support?

You beat me to it, Fred

Awesome! I think we're on the same page with what to do here (thanks for the diagram BTW). It's not ideal from a soundproofing standpoint since it couples directly to the framing, but I'll probably do that support with two layers of something with Green Glue between. On top of that, the door is coupled to the framing, so I don't think it will make much difference having that piece at the bottom.

Thanks again for the feedback!!!!!
Edited by J_P_A - 3/14/13 at 2:40pm

I'm worried about the threshold rocking when it's stepped on. Even if I used 1-1/4" stock (not sure where I would find it), it will be cantilevered out about 2-1/2". I'm just afraid it would either break, or would eventually work loose over time.

Well, the hat channel saga continues. Anyone care to venture a guess as to where this is going?

Yep, you guessed it. Still no 25 ga. hat channel. I made the drive today to the next drywall supplier. It only took 45 minutes, so a little better than I expected. However, while this place had 25 ga channel, it did not have hemmed edges. FAIL

They did point me to another place in the same town, and I figured, "why not; I'm already out here." I found this second place, and nope, they don't have it either. BUT, they at least recognized the stuff. Said they could order it, but they'd have to wait until they had a big enough order to put it on the truck. Hopefully only another three days or so. Baby steps. We're getting there in baby steps They did seem surprised that I was using 25 ga on the ceiling. They're familiar with Genie clips, so I don't know if they use 20 ga on the ceiling instead.

I'll admit, there's been more than once that I've started to wonder if the good Lord is trying to tell me something If this last place doesn't pan out, I'm probably going to take the hint!