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post #1 of 7
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Well,

This should be a whole topic by itself. The opinion whether it's better (more enjoyable) for your speakers to be "highly revealing" or colored "just right".

Typically, for those who have not listened to enough speakers with critical thought, highly revealing (high resolution) speakers which produce fewer overtones and you are able to hear deeper into the mix. Speakers that do this well typically don't "image" well (the perception of depth and space within the sound, which is often a 'coloration' from room acoustics and NOT part of the source recording). Highly accurate speakers can many times be described as 'cold' and sometimes even 'bright' (because whether people want to accept it or not, MOST recordings have strong sybllance in the high frequencies.

Speakers which contain coloration are actually more common, even among "high end" speakers than most people want to believe. If a speaker utilizes any 'dipole' dispersion in it's design, it's intending to use room reflections to give the impression the soundstage is much wider and deeper than it really is. A great number of audiophiles pay great amounts of money to get the colored sound they really like (ie, dipole electrostats and tube amplifiers, targeted acoustic room treatments to shape how smooth the reflected sound seems). You know you have speakers coloring the sound when you find everything you play on them seems to sound really 'good'. Truly "revealing" speakers don't sound good unless the source recording sounds good. With revealing speakers, you get what you put into them. With colored speakers, you might actually enjoy music MORE. So, just because a speaker is "accurate" doesn't mean people will like it.

I think most people may be surprised which speakers the ACTUALLY prefer. I say you may want to have a pair of nice sounding speakers with the perfect colorations for those recordings that aren't the best or have limited resolution. Dipole speakers and working to 'smooth out' the midrange with a tube amp & soft room treatments can actually give an illusion of depth and quality that isn't really within the source recording. Also, buy a pair of accurate speakers for those high resolution recordings which need no 'help' and will sound fantastic when put to the test.
post #2 of 7
Lots of people choose euphonic distortions - whether by choosing speakers, tube amps, vinyl etc.
post #3 of 7
Timothy,

Your post doesn't support Sean Olive's findings from his double blind controlled case study, in which multiple listening groups were polled. These groups consisted of untrained people from a local college, audio salesmen, reviewers and trained listeners. The findings of the case study showed one commonality between the listening groups: the majority of each group preferred the more accurately measuring speakers in the order of best to worse measurements. It's amazing what speakers get chosen when bias is removed from the equation.

While I agree that many people intentionally color the sound, it doesn't mean they don't prefer accurate speakers. It could be explained by many reasons, such as compensating for crappy room acoustics or electronics, or poor recordings (as you mentioned). The subjective science of this industry has shown that the "better"measuring speakers will be preferred, especially if bias is removed.

The fact that the recording industry has no standard is definitely a problem, but that's a completely different topic, and it doesn't mean we should buy colored speakers to compensate for poor recordings.

I have attached the case study for anyone interested in reading it. Sean Olive (and Floyd Toole) are pioneers of the audio industry, and their work is highly regarded world wide.

P.S. No where in Toole's book does it say accurately measuring/highly revealing speakers don't image well. Where are you getting that misnomer from?

 

Olive_2003.pdf 270.64453125k . file
post #4 of 7
it amazes me all the people that claim to love accurate speakers but seek out and buy coloured

the majority of "audiophile" speakers imo are coloured
post #5 of 7
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Originally Posted by dlfromcanada View Post


the majority of "audiophile" speakers imo are coloured

I think you're right. That's odd, don't you think?
post #6 of 7
For me it depends on what i am listening to. For music i do like some coloration but still fairly accurate. for movies and especially video games i prefer it to be completely analytical.
post #7 of 7
I have been into audio equipment for over 30 years. I've had several speakers over the years and have listened to many nmore. I recently picked up a pair of Dunaudio contour speakers. They are the most accurate speakers I have ever owned. They reveal the sound recording like a window. For great recordings, this is a treat. For not so good recordings, well, maybe some color ain't so bad.
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