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post #121 of 1176
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Originally Posted by ibuyufo View Post

I'm not sure how that is terrible? If you decide to adjust the volume on the TV it probably shows the volume indicator on the screen so I fail to see the difference.

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Originally Posted by Dregan View Post

Im actully looking forward to the on screen volume because the way my stuff is setup when im sitting on my couch i have to do complete 180 degrees a turn round to see the volume level

That is true about the TV, but I haven't used that volume control in years. The Onkyo I have been using does not display anything on the screen.

Also, from minute to minute, I don't care about the number that corresponds to my volume level, I just care that the volume sounds the way I want it to.

I guess what is terrible is that this fairly minor "feature" can't be set by the user, because it is affecting whether or not someone will buy the AVR.

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post #122 of 1176
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Originally Posted by next365 View Post

To make sure I understand this correctly, if I'm watching a movie or TV show that requires me to constantly use the remote to adjust the volume because of loud/quiet scenes, a volume level indicator will constantly pop-up on the screen?

Yes... as mentioned by others a graphic volume indicator (rectangular black box with a white slide bar) will Pop-Up EVERYTIME you adjust the volume in any direction.

There is No way to disable the on screen volume display. Love it or hate it... it's all a matter of personal opinion. Some like it, some don't care either way, some absolutely hate it. The good news it's only on the screen for the second or so you are making the actual adjustment then immediately disappears. Personally, it doesn't bother me although I think its pretty worthless.

NOTE TO YAMAHA: I adjust the volume to a comfortable listening level that my "ears" hear... not to an indicator bar that my eyes see. Simply put... I can adjust the volume with my eyes closed. In other words... as a manufacturer, why you would hard code a feature that actually causes you to lose a percentage of sales. Please consider giving your customers the option to turn off this questionable feature.

FYI: I previously owned the V667 and now the V867. Both units have the on screen volume display. Some members have been holding their breath that Yamaha will release a firmware update that will allow us to turn it off... but I think the chances are pretty slim.
post #123 of 1176
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Originally Posted by farkem View Post

Mainstream receivers are not currently able to stream video over the network. [There are one or two htib combo bluray/receiver oddballs]

Well that makes sense, thanks for the info. I can still simply connect my PC via HDMI and Optical as a separate "Scene", but that's not really streaming, its just a 2nd monitor and alternate sound output, but ultimately it gets the job done.

BTW, Watching Inception last night, all that dream stuff, made me fall asleep. I then dreamed that the movie was a lot better than it actually was in real life
post #124 of 1176
I have found the more EASY way to Add and SAVE Vtuner rado stations
First you will need to go and the Vtuner site and sign up
Best way to do that is to go to Page 69 of the Yamaha 867 Cd and click on the Vtuner
website....
You will need to add your Email and new password along you will need to get the
MAC Address off of the 867(that is your Vtuner access code}
You find the station you want to add to the 867 from the PC and save everything.
Then you will have all the stations on the 867 at your hands

The Pros
you are able to add many stations without looking them up each time you
want to listen to your radio stions on the 867
You are able to listen to 7 speakers with Internet radio

The Cons
If you are listening to a Tv station or Dvd at a nice listening audio level and you want to listen to a Radio station,,,put your ear plugs on because the Radio will
be 3-5 times louder then the Tv or DVD you were watching.


Only thing to do is lower the audio before you go into the internet radio so
not having to get a headach........................JT
post #125 of 1176
Logitech Harmony One Universal Remote
Any of you good folks can tell me how to Add NETWORK to this control?
I cannot find Network at all on Logitechs website when the contol is hooked up.
And also the button to Shut off the Internet radio.....Thanks JT
post #126 of 1176
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Originally Posted by Johnnytuinals View Post

Logitech Harmony One Universal Remote
Any of you good folks can tell me how to Add NETWORK to this control?
I cannot find Network at all on Logitechs website when the contol is hooked up.
And also the button to Shut off the Internet radio.....Thanks JT

Isn't the one a learning remote? Put it in learning mode and send the command to it.

I've heard that the harmony support people are pretty good and update models as they become aware of them, so maybe contact them.

Not sure what you mean by shut off the internet radio, repeatedly pressing net cycles through the different net functions, pc/internet radio/pandora etc.
post #127 of 1176
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Originally Posted by Dregan View Post

I have a similar setup, i just orderd the 867 today myself, my setup consist of polk Series II from newegg wich are the M70's fronts, cs2 center, M30's X 4 for surrounds and dual PSW505 Subs, im coming from a sony STR-DG820 AVR.
My display is a epson 8350 Projector on a 100" screen and the only thing i will be hooking up is my PS3 and 360

Why are your subs in back?

I have a cs20 sitting on my Velodyne sub just below the screen and 50s as l/r.

I'm assuming that you have a couch in front of the projector. We sit behind a table mounted Mitsubishi.

If you have the speakers, give height a try too.
post #128 of 1176
elton- the volume bar that pops up on the screen when you adjust the volume is it just in the corner of the screen?
post #129 of 1176
some pre-purchase Q's:
(a) I know that it has 2 HDMI outputs. My question is how many menu buttons do you have to press to switch from one to the other, or are they both always on?
(b) does it have a pre-out for the sub
(c) how well does the auto room setup EQ work (as good as teh Audessey XT)?

TIA
post #130 of 1176
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

Why are your subs in back?

I have a cs20 sitting on my Velodyne sub just below the screen and 50s as l/r.

I'm assuming that you have a couch in front of the projector. We sit behind a table mounted Mitsubishi.

If you have the speakers, give height a try too.

because thats where they sound best in my room, belive it or not iv tried them in the front where my towers are in the corners and they sound terrible no bass at all, wich mean my towers prolly dont hit as hard as they should eather. And yes the couch is front of the projecter, the subs fire directly into the back of the couch.
post #131 of 1176
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Originally Posted by Elton Noway View Post


Yes... as mentioned by others a graphic volume indicator (rectangular black box with a white slide bar) will Pop-Up EVERYTIME you adjust the volume in any direction.

There is No way to disable the on screen volume display. Love it or hate it... it's all a matter of personal opinion. Some like it, some don't care either way, some absolutely hate it. The good news it's only on the screen for the second or so you are making the actual adjustment then immediately disappears. Personally, it doesn't bother me although I think its pretty worthless.

NOTE TO YAMAHA: I adjust the volume to a comfortable listening level that my "ears" hear... not to an indicator bar that my eyes see. Simply put... I can adjust the volume with my eyes closed. In other words... as a manufacturer, why you would hard code a feature that actually causes you to lose a percentage of sales. Please consider giving your customers the option to turn off this questionable feature.

FYI: I previously owned the V667 and now the V867. Both units have the on screen volume display. Some members have been holding their breath that Yamaha will release a firmware update that will allow us to turn it off... but I think the chances are pretty slim.

Funny to me people are complaining that it shows the volume on screen. Know how many people whine because they can't see a volume level on other receivers? I've read about people in these forums who wont purchase or will return a receiver because there is no volume overlay.
post #132 of 1176
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Originally Posted by cgott42 View Post

some pre-purchase Q's:
(a) I know that it has 2 HDMI outputs. My question is how many menu buttons do you have to press to switch from one to the other, or are they both always on?
(b) does it have a pre-out for the sub
(c) how well does the auto room setup EQ work (as good as teh Audessey XT)?

TIA

A They are both on by default, but you can change that. That's how I have that set up.

B yes

c Never used Audessey, so I can't say. It was fast and gives multiple calibration points, I used 2. It was much faster and than Pioneer mcacc. mcacc gave ybbalanced l/r last time I used it, so I had to go in and manually fix it.

It sounds good to me. I use height speakers and figured out what/where they were without having to do a special setting.
post #133 of 1176
I just noticed this reciever dosent show what it is decoding on the Front LCD, does it show on screen or something ? How are you suppose to know what kind of singal it decoding ?
post #134 of 1176
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

A They are both on by default, but you can change that. That's how I have that set up.

B yes

c Never used Audessey, so I can't say. It was fast and gives multiple calibration points, I used 2. It was much faster and than Pioneer mcacc. mcacc gave ybbalanced l/r last time I used it, so I had to go in and manually fix it.

It sounds good to me. I use height speakers and figured out what/where they were without having to do a special setting.

thx.
Anyone ever hear both this and the Marantz SR8001 and compare sound quality?
post #135 of 1176
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Originally Posted by eliteconcept View Post

elton- the volume bar that pops up on the screen when you adjust the volume is it just in the corner of the screen?

No... the volume bar (Black with White lettering) is approximately 80% of the screen width, centered from left to right across the bottom of the screen. Here are a few pics so you can see what it looks like. The TV in this photo is a 50" Samsung but the video format was set to 4:3 when I took the picture. Sorry, I wasn't trying to take a great photo... just trying to show what the volume bar looks like.

NOTE: The volume bar indicator CANNOT be turned off, adjusted, moved, resized or changed in any way. It is what it is.

post #136 of 1176
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Originally Posted by RobNH View Post

Yeah, but what are those features?

When I look at the specs of the 867 and the 671, I don't really see much difference.

Take a look at the back panels.
post #137 of 1176
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Originally Posted by Dregan View Post

I just noticed this reciever dosent show what it is decoding on the Front LCD, does it show on screen or something ? How are you suppose to know what kind of singal it decoding ?

Please consult your owner's manual regarding the use of the "info" button.
post #138 of 1176
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Originally Posted by RobNH View Post

So has anyone been able to summarize the advantages of the RX-v671 over the RX-v867?

From all of the threads I've read here on both models, the 671 is newer with:

1. Better GUI than the 867
2. USB port (867 does not)
3. Better Networking capability?

Is that pretty much it or are there more?

Pricing Differences:

Yamaha MSRP: ---- $599 ---- $899

So, the 671 is newer, with a better price. However, why is the older 867 priced higher at BestBuy and have a higher MSRP from Yamaha? Even though it's older, is it a better unit?

If the 671 is a better unit, I have no problem paying the additional $120, but I just want to make sure I get the better unit, and I'm having a hard time comparing/understanding the differences between the two.

The 867 has more features than the 671 which explains why the MSRP of the 867 is greater than the 671. The 867 only costs less today because it is being discontinued. NET: The 671 cost more than the "current discontinued price of the 867" because it was just released and is part of their new line up.

Better GUI than the 867? I haven't heard much on that claim. Please elaborate.
No USB on the 867. That is correct!
Better Networking capability? Haven't heard much on that claim either. Please elaborate.

Compare for yourself and it should be clear which is the better value for the money.
post #139 of 1176
Elton,
Thanks for the pictures that helps. Thats not bad. The onkyo volume overlay is better and less intrusive, but still thats not too bad.
post #140 of 1176
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post
A They are both on by default, but you can change that. That's how I have that set up.

B yes

c Never used Audessey, so I can't say. It was fast and gives multiple calibration points, I used 2. It was much faster and than Pioneer mcacc. mcacc gave ybbalanced l/r last time I used it, so I had to go in and manually fix it.

It sounds good to me. I use height speakers and figured out what/where they were without having to do a special setting.
So can you have the two HDMI ports outputting different content at the same time? or is it the same content that is output on both the ports?

I am in need of a receiver that can handle 2 independent streams (one processed and one in pass thru mode) at the same time.
post #141 of 1176
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I am in need of a receiver that can handle 2 independent streams (one processed and one in pass thru mode) at the same time.
I don't think the Yamaha 867 can do that. You can out to both jacks simultaneously, or one or the other. But not two different outputs at the same time. You can download the manual at Yamaha's website.
post #142 of 1176
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Originally Posted by afrogt View Post

I don't think the Yamaha 867 can do that. You can out to both jacks simultaneously, or one or the other. But not two different outputs at the same time. You can download the manual at Yamaha's website.

That's just what I was going to say!
post #143 of 1176
I have wireless headphones with stereo RCA plugs as inputs. Which output jacks would I attach to? "Audio Out"? I assume that I would not be able to hear HDMI or digital audio inputs. Would I be able to hear Internet Radio/Pandora/digital mp3 files on my computer? I guess that I can connect a cable box/BRP/DVR by both HDMI and analog audio so I can hear the output.

What if I were to use the Zone2 analog out instead? If I changed to "Party Mode" would I then be able to hear all inputs, even digital, in my headphones?

Most of the time I will be listening to TV but will also want to hear music occasionally.

Thanks.
post #144 of 1176
I have some too and I put them on the pre-out LR and they work! It passes the digital signal. I've only tried it on the net radio, but I assume it would work on all outputs.
post #145 of 1176
Using preout L-R is an interesting option. It should pass everything. However, if you are watching/listening to a movie with full surround sound will you miss information from the other channels? Would you need to change the mode to 2-speaker stereo? Or is that all you really want for headphones? The front two channels would be fine for news-type shows; would there be an advantage to using the headphone jack (with simulated 3D sound) for watching a surround-sound movie?

Thanks
post #146 of 1176
Just hooked up my 867 last night. I personally like the volume display.

It's the first time I've used YPAO. It's really nice to give you a good starting point. I made some minor adjustments - increased levels on the center channel and sub. It also caught the fact that I accidentally reversed the polarity on my rear right speaker.

So far, I'm pretty happy with the unit, and at $432 shipped, I smile even more.

I still need to check for the firmware update and do a little more sound adjusting, but I'll get to that over the next week.

The one thing that I do NOT like is the remote. Ugghhh!!! Since I only use this in the HT for just watching movies, it's not a big deal, but one day when it gets replaced and relegated to the game room where multiple sources will be used and such, I'll have to change to a learning remote that isn't so busy, small, non-backlit and poorly laid out.

But when the remote is my only complaint so far.... I'll take that.

Now, to add 2 more speakers, replace a sub and install the transducers into the seats.
post #147 of 1176
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Originally Posted by crimemastergogo View Post

So can you have the two HDMI ports outputting different content at the same time? or is it the same content that is output on both the ports?

I am in need of a receiver that can handle 2 independent streams (one processed and one in pass thru mode) at the same time.

I have been trying to find out more about this HDMI 2 port setup as well. The manual does not talk about this much. It does have the ability to turn each port off or on so I am guessing that it is the same output for both. I would like to have one output set at 720P and the other 1080P. I don't think this is going to happen but turning off the port for the 720p tv should switch the source back to 1080P.
post #148 of 1176
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Originally Posted by scottwood2 View Post

I have been trying to find out more about this HDMI 2 port setup as well. The manual does not talk about this much. It does have the ability to turn each port off or on so I am guessing that it is the same output for both. I would like to have one output set at 720P and the other 1080P. I don't think this is going to happen but turning off the port for the 720p tv should switch the source back to 1080P.

FWIW:

http://www.home-theater-systems-advi...a-rx-v867.html
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The second HDMI output is one of my favorite features as it allows sending the same video to your TV and projector simultaneously without having to switch or split the HDMI signal (and that can be troublesome besides being a PITA) or you can feed a bedroom TV the same signal as from your theater or living room.
post #149 of 1176
Those of you with DirecTV, have you programmed the DirecTV remote to handle the volume? If so, which code did you use?

Thanks.
post #150 of 1176
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Originally Posted by SoundChex View Post

FYI: I have an RX-V667 which I suspect has the identical ('current year') IR code set. I also have an approx 5 year old HTR-5860 ("same as" the RX-V657). The HTR-5860 remote has separate "System Power" and "Standby" buttons . . . which also function as discrete on|off commands for my RX-V667.

Thanks. I received the 867 today and found the Harmony does have discrete on/off commands.
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