The Official Yamaha RX-V867 Owners Thread - Page 26

Originally Posted by joegovernale

I have a duplicate of your system and the same issue. I cannot get any audio, including OTA, via the HDMI cable. I can get audio from the Samsung TV (MP3s, OTA and others) when I connect an optical cable from the Samsung audio out to the AV4 optical input on the AVR and switch the AVR audio inputs manually.

Is anyone able to pass audio through the HDMI cable? If so, what are your HDMI settings. It would be nice to determine whether the issue is with the Samsung TV not outputting the audio or the Yamaha receiver not accepting the signal. I have contacted Samsung and Yamaha support with no help.

The AVR option choices through SETUP>HDMI>TV AUDIO INPUT does not include HDMI, only the non-HDMI inputs and the default is set to AV4. The Yamaha manual (page 106 and 123) confuses the issue. Page 123 shows the single HDMI cable connection and page 106 describes the ARC setup (TV audio input choices are AV1-4 or audio 1-2, HDMI1 default=AV4).

Originally Posted by gregoryperkins

Is the arc working for tv? If you are using a cable box, just slap an antenna on, or cable and scan for channels.

Why are you trying to play through the tv? You can push directly to the 867 with w7 or pull from a dlna server.

Originally Posted by RobertTX

I was messsing with the "gadgets" that the TV has and one is a music folder which shows all the files on my pc and plays them back through the TV speakers but I thought it should push the audio via ARC to my receiver. Like joegovernale stated I can't figure out what is /or is not working properly. I've tried various configurations of the setup decribed in the maunal on both pages 106 and 123 to no avail.

Originally Posted by RobertTX

Equipment:
Samsung PN64D8000 TV
Yamaha RX-V867 AV Reciever

HDMI cable connected at HDMI Out #2 of the RX-V867 going into HDMI 2 (ARC) of the TV.

RX-V867 has HDMI ARC "on" and chose AV4 as the source to which audio signals will be assigned.

The 64D8000 has the sound set to "external"

I can get the music to play on the TV but I am not getting the sound to go back to the AV receiver via the HDMI ARC.

Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by JChin

Hi RobertTX, maybe I'm reading wrong but isn't HDMI-2 Out should be AV1 as the input source by default?

HDMI Control - On
Control Select - Out2 (TV2)
ARC - On
TV Audi Input - AV1
Audio Output - Amp

Set Samsung tv AnyNet+ and AnyNet Receiver to "On".

Also after the settings, try turning tv off and on and receiver off and on as well.

Originally Posted by RobertTX

I also set the TV AnyNet+ to on but it doesn't show any receiver as being available.

Maybe the RX-V867 isn't an AnyNet device.

Re-started both units but no joy.

Thanks for all the suggestions - I'll try every one of them.

Originally Posted by RobertTX

Maybe the RX-V867 isn't an AnyNet device.

Originally Posted by JChin

Thats the problem, tv is not auto detecting HDMI connection. Maybe try a soft reset on the tv. Disconnect HDMI cable at tv and unplug tv power cord for a few minutes. Connect HDMI cable to tv (HDMI-2 for ARC), plug in power cord to wall outlet and turn on tv. Go into AnyNet+ menu and check settings and if device (receiver) is detected.

Originally Posted by 123

hi guys.

I'm using this avr to power 2 small speakers and a 10" sub I just picked up (previous sub that matched the 2 small speakers did not have a built-in amp). The sub works, but it seems like my setup is very treble-heavy. I calibrated the system with YPAO and it set the speakers to 0 and the sub to +1.5. So I tried upping the sub to +3.0 and it didn't really help (still treble-heavy). Before I keep increasing the sub output, I want to try a few other things. I've read that when running small speakers, you may want to increase the LPE for the sub to a higher frequency. How can I go about doing this with the receiver? I couldn't find anything in the gui. And another thing, the sub I have has its own LPE settings: 40Hz, 80Hz, 120Hz, and off/LPE. I set it to off/LPE since i presume this gives the AVR control. This is what I should do, correct?

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by gregoryperkins

Joe, the correct answer is to buy 3 new large speakers for the front and put the 2 smalls as rears!

Never miss an opportunity to upgrade your system!

Originally Posted by JoeKustra

Easy way to make the sub work hard is to use Setup->Speaker->Manual Setup->Configuration-> Extra Bass. The crossover is a bit more complicated since I never heard of LPE. If that means "no control", then that would be my choice. Obviously you have subwoofer to "use/on" also. This way you can also leave your fronts to large unless you might damage them. Also, check the front display, since it shows active speakers. One should be SW.

Originally Posted by gregoryperkins

Joe, the correct answer is to buy 3 new large speakers for the front and put the 2 smalls as rears!

Never miss an opportunity to upgrade your system!

Originally Posted by 123

Yes, I believe LPE is "no control." There is definitely signal to the sub and it is working, it is just far too quiet. I will give the "extra bass" option a shot. What's the reasoning for setting my front speakers to large? YPAO automatically set them to small (and they are, in fact, quiet small).

Originally Posted by JoeKustra

The speakers came with a manual the gives their low frequency response. If it is 100Hz or higher, then small would be logical. Should it say 20Hz (a stretch) then it can't hurt to let them get some bass. My front speakers have a 6.25" woofer. And calling that a woofer is a stretch too. But the manual is funny, saying that 6.25 is a magic number. Ok, I don't expect the windows to rattle from the front bass, but I don't want them silent either. It's obviously a personal thing, and they are 5' off the floor in a rather live room (paneling). I have a 125w sub that works great. It's ported down, and no longer available or I would buy a second. I don't have a center front speaker, but I do have a rear difference speaker (Hahler effect). Like I said, I'm mostly music.

You have control. If setting them large or small makes a difference, do what sounds better. I don't know your primary content source or room characteristics. All that matters is you get the sound you like. Don't forget about those white Scene buttons. With one source you can have four different sound fields. Sadly, Scene buttons can't change a speaker size.

Originally Posted by seasound

I want to utilize the "Presence" speakers using Zone 2 output on the V867 for a 7.1 system. I also want to utilize my remote speakers using analog sound feed to other rooms in the house and on the Lanai. All remote speakers were previously fed from "B" on my old Yamaha HTR-5660 through a Niles Six-Pair Speaker Selector SS-6, outputting to remote impedance matching volume controls at 4 ohms. I see on page 30 of the OM that there are instructions for connecting an external amplifier using the pre-outs. It would seem to me that I could use the 1. Front (PRE OUT) jacks to send source to external amp, that would in turn output to the Niles SS-6 input, and output that to impedance matching volume control inputs at each remote speaker location.

I am a bit confused about the NOTE on page 30 of the V867 OM--"When a component is connected to the PRE OUT terminals, do not connect speakers to the SPEAKERS terminals corresponding to those PRE OUT terminals." That makes little sense to me, although the 2nd sentence on page 30 describes using an external amp to "enhance" the speaker output. Why can I not output to the Front Speaker L/R, as shown on page 17, and concurently PRE OUT (1) Front to simply do just what it says, i.e. PRE OUT (1) Front PRE OUT jacks? Why would the V867 care?

I would appreciate all feedback and if someone has done this, and it works, could you recommend a very basic single or double I/O, but decent, amp to serve remote speaker system? If I am misinterpreting (not unusal) the NOTE please explain. A confirmation that is doable would lead me to purchase amp and a set of duplicate Klipsch speakers to match the rest of my system.

I realize that I could test this using my old HRT-5660 as external amp configured to input V-867 PRE OUT to 5660 Front L/R PRE IN and out put Front L/R to the Niles. I resist because its a major pita to move the wall units, and my wife will be switching AS to CS (Autumn Stuff to Christmas Stuff) utilizing my I/O about two weeks from now and that would be a perfect time to move wall units, do the additional connections and hide the cabling that shows in the attached photo.

Thanks

Originally Posted by cbhpi

V867 Amp assignment should be 7.1 Normal, which will enable you to use your presence speakers for that purpose and allow zone 2 audio through the external amp.

Originally Posted by gregoryperkins

If you put it on the pre out, it will vary with zone1.

Originally Posted by cbhpi

Connect your "presence" speakers to the Zone 2/Presence speaker terminals on your V867.
Connect your external amp via patch cords to the Zone 2 Line Level out jacks on the V867.
V867 Amp assignment should be 7.1 Normal, which will enable you to use your presence speakers for that purpose and allow zone 2 audio through the external amp.

Originally Posted by seasound


Almost sounds to simple, but then again I have learned a lot in this quest. Anyone have a suggestion for a suitable external amp? Opps, should have asked that in the Amplifier thread but it does create more discussion about the V867 configurations.

Thanks

Originally Posted by CKarras

Note that volume control on Zone 2 must be by the external amp. The V867 will not vary volume on the line level output for Zone 2. That caught me out and I had to rewire for speaker level output making my external amp (w/o volume control) redundant at the moment. Anyone think of a use for it?

Originally Posted by cbhpi

But in doing so, the OP will violate the warning in the OM to which he has referred. Whether or not the warning is there for valid (rather than "legal") reasons, I don't know. I seem to recall, but can't be certain as I write this, that rdgrimes has stated that the warning is valid and shouldn't be ignored. (My apologies to rdgrimes in advance if memory serves me incorrectly.)