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post #931 of 1176
Having an issue with my cable box outputting the Dolby surround sound to my reciever. I am on comcast and have a Cisco RNG200N.

When I attempt to select a 'Surround Decoder', all I am able to use is the 'Straight' option. I have browsed the various settings in the (terrible) comcast menus, and cannot find anything to allow the dolby processing to pass through.

When using my Apple TV, I am easily able to select the various Dolby (and Nero) modes.

Sounds like an issue on the cable box end, right? Thoughts, anyone?

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post #932 of 1176
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Originally Posted by Marco Esquandola View Post

Having an issue with my cable box outputting the Dolby surround sound to my reciever. I am on comcast and have a Cisco RNG200N.

When I attempt to select a 'Surround Decoder', all I am able to use is the 'Straight' option. I have browsed the various settings in the (terrible) comcast menus, and cannot find anything to allow the dolby processing to pass through.

When using my Apple TV, I am easily able to select the various Dolby (and Nero) modes.

Sounds like an issue on the cable box end, right? Thoughts, anyone?

A place to start:
http://forums.comcast.com/t5/Xfinity...o/td-p/1196135
post #933 of 1176
Is there a way to fully customize an input's audio AND video source?

I want to have the following setup:

Input HDMI 1
Video: HDMI1
Audio: HDMI 1

Input HDMI 2
Video: HDMI 1
Audio: Audio 1

I know I can change the audio source of HDMI 1, but I want to have one input that is HDMI 1 with HDMI 1 audio and another that is HDMI 1's video with an analog audio so that I can output it to a amp for distribution throughout the house.

Is there any sort of advanced menu that allows for fully customizing / assigning input sources? Thanks.
post #934 of 1176
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Originally Posted by rstarr View Post

Is there a way to fully customize an input's audio AND video source?

I want to have the following setup:

Input HDMI 1
Video: HDMI1
Audio: HDMI 1

Input HDMI 2
Video: HDMI 1
Audio: Audio 1

I know I can change the audio source of HDMI 1, but I want to have one input that is HDMI 1 with HDMI 1 audio and another that is HDMI 1's video with an analog audio so that I can output it to a amp for distribution throughout the house.

Is there any sort of advanced menu that allows for fully customizing / assigning input sources? Thanks.

Easy. Select the input then hit up. This will allow you select the audio input for any HDMI input (except for a different HDMI input and a few other exceptions). Watch for the up arrow on options. You can save the configuration with the white Scene button - hold it down for 5 seconds and it will say "saved". I use "CD" for HDMI1 when using music. I used "DVD" for HDMI1 when watching movies. I wish there were more white buttons.

I don't know if this is your solution, but it does allow changing the audio source for an HDMI input. If it doesn't work, you may need a different AVR or someone else will help.
post #935 of 1176
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco Esquandola View Post

Having an issue with my cable box outputting the Dolby surround sound to my reciever. I am on comcast and have a Cisco RNG200N.

When I attempt to select a 'Surround Decoder', all I am able to use is the 'Straight' option. I have browsed the various settings in the (terrible) comcast menus, and cannot find anything to allow the dolby processing to pass through.

When using my Apple TV, I am easily able to select the various Dolby (and Nero) modes.

Sounds like an issue on the cable box end, right? Thoughts, anyone?

How is the AVR receiving audio from the cable box? HDMI? Coax/SPIDF?

I would imagine there is an option to pass through DD to the AVR but you may have to go into the maintenance menu of the cable box to turn that feature on and that may not be accessible through the normal menus. You will just need to do some digging on the net and see what you can find for that model number.
post #936 of 1176
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Originally Posted by cmmiller101 View Post

In the speaker setup, the receiver has a range of Hz for the subwoofer with 80Hz as the default. For the 12" PSW505, should I leave it there at 80Hz or should I adjust it?

On the back of the subwoofer there is a phase toggle switch. What is the difference in the phase option of 0 or 180? If I am running only 1 subwoofer, does it matter which one I select?

I don't have any other speakers in my system besides the two front speakers and the sub. My only concern is that I had to change my front speakers to "small" to get any sound out of the sub. My front speakers are Klipsch (RLF? 10s) and have two 10s in each of them and by turning them to "small" I don't get as much sound out of them. . .I almost prefer having the bass come out of them as opposed to that sub. . .any suggestions?

Thanks again!

Leave it at 80hz and play your music/movies and see how you like it. It really depends on your speakers and what range they can do. I have my crossover set to 90hz for my speakers. I would just play with it and see what sounds the best to you as there are no hard and fast rules.

Set the phase to 0. For a more indepth look at what phase does (and a great all around primer about subs you should read anyway) see this: http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=95817

Setting the speakers to small simply tells the AVR that your system is "bass managed". That means you have a sub hooked up and the AVR will send anything below the crossover (80hz in this example) to the sub for playback. Assuming you have a decent sub, that is much better than letting your two front speakers handle full range. Odds are, you front speakers can't "dig down" and hit low freq. like your sub can.

This really doesn't affect how much "sound" comes out of your setup though When I play two channel music with my system I can crank my system up so loud it would damage my hearing!

Did you make sure all the speakers you DON'T have are turned off in the setup menu? Presense is turned off? Rear surround are turned off? Center is turned off (you might not be able to turn that off)? Secondly, did you run the YPAO program in the speaker setup menu?
post #937 of 1176
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

Easy. Select the input then hit up. This will allow you select the audio input for any HDMI input (except for a different HDMI input and a few other exceptions). Watch for the up arrow on options. You can save the configuration with the white Scene button - hold it down for 5 seconds and it will say "saved". I use "CD" for HDMI1 when using music. I used "DVD" for HDMI1 when watching movies. I wish there were more white buttons.

I don't know if this is your solution, but it does allow changing the audio source for an HDMI input. If it doesn't work, you may need a different AVR or someone else will help.

This will allow me to change the audio input for HDMI 1 but it will not allow me to change the video input of HDMI 2. And I cannot save one scene with HDMI 1 having HDMI 1 audio and another scene with HDMI 1 having analog audio as the scene button doesn't change the audio input. That chnage is set until you dig back into the settings and change it.

Unless I am missing how you do this?
post #938 of 1176
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Originally Posted by rstarr View Post

This will allow me to change the audio input for HDMI 1 but it will not allow me to change the video input of HDMI 2. And I cannot save one scene with HDMI 1 having HDMI 1 audio and another scene with HDMI 1 having analog audio as the scene button doesn't change the audio input. That chnage is set until you dig back into the settings and change it.

Unless I am missing how you do this?

I might be missing something too. Video is on HDMI1 always? That, with its audio is Scene 1. That gets set by holding down the BR/DVD button until the front panel says "saved". Next you go into setup, inputs, HDMI1, and change its audio to "Audio1" (example). Clear out and hold down "CD" until it says "saved".

This should allow HDMI1 to have two different audio inputs BUT not at the same time. When I hit the white "Radio" button I get "Audio1" and not the tuner. To use my Blu-ray for movies I hit the white BR button. To use the same input for SACD/CD/Pandora I hit "CD" to get DSP.

As for the other part about outputs: sorry, no idea. You might try the V667 thread. A lot of smart people there.
post #939 of 1176
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

I might be missing something too. Video is on HDMI1 always? That, with its audio is Scene 1. That gets set by holding down the BR/DVD button until the front panel says "saved". Next you go into setup, inputs, HDMI1, and change its audio to "Audio1" (example). Clear out and hold down "CD" until it says "saved".

This should allow HDMI1 to have two different audio inputs BUT not at the same time. When I hit the white "Radio" button I get "Audio1" and not the tuner. To use my Blu-ray for movies I hit the white BR button. To use the same input for SACD/CD/Pandora I hit "CD" to get DSP.

As for the other part about outputs: sorry, no idea. You might try the V667 thread. A lot of smart people there.

Yeah, the scene buttons do not allow you to set audio source for an input for a scene. That is to say, once I set HDMI 1's audio source as Audio 1, pressing a scene button will never change that audio source setting. I cannot setup a scene that changes HDMI 1 back to having Audio 1 as its audio source. I'll see if the folks in the 667 thread have any info. Thanks.
post #940 of 1176
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Originally Posted by rstarr View Post

Yeah, the scene buttons do not allow you to set audio source for an input for a scene. That is to say, once I set HDMI 1's audio source as Audio 1, pressing a scene button will never change that audio source setting. I cannot setup a scene that changes HDMI 1 back to having Audio 1 as its audio source. I'll see if the folks in the 667 thread have any info. Thanks.

You're right. Sorry.
post #941 of 1176
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Originally Posted by JoeKustra View Post

You're right. Sorry.

No worries. Thanks for the effort. I might just have to get a HDMI splitter to send that HDMI 1 input to that other input as well.
post #942 of 1176
Starting yesterday (2/24/2012), when I try listening to Sirius Internet, all I get is "not connected" on the display. I have tried:
- receiver reboot
- router reboot
- cable modem reboot

All the other internet streaming medias work fine like pandora.

I wonder if Sirius has made server side changes and if so if Yamaha will need a firmware update or if this is specific to me? Anybody else seeing this yesterday/today?
post #943 of 1176
I know it can't add Cinema DSP 3D to DTSHD-MA without changing it to legacy DTS but can it add DSP 3D to PCM without changing the PCM audio?
post #944 of 1176
Another ARC question for all you experts. Read the manual, read me TV (Sony KDLnx720) manual and got ARC to work just fine. BUT.... v867 will shutdown randomly when using ARC for Pandora on the TV. I did swap out the cables as before my flat cable was skipping, new cable fix it as it has more shielding I think.

Do I have a broken v867? I would assume if I got ARC to work, my settings are correct.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks!
post #945 of 1176
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Originally Posted by rrrracerx View Post

Another ARC question for all you experts. Read the manual, read me TV (Sony KDLnx720) manual and got ARC to work just fine. BUT.... v867 will shutdown randomly when using ARC for Pandora on the TV. I did swap out the cables as before my flat cable was skipping, new cable fix it as it has more shielding I think.

Do I have a broken v867? I would assume if I got ARC to work, my settings are correct.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Could you expand on "shutdown"? I use Pandora daily from a Sony TV EX700 or BR S370 WITHOUT CEC/ARC and have never had a problem. Are you using the V867 to receive Pandora or the TV? I find the Sony has a better sound. The BR is best. The V867 is not so good.
post #946 of 1176
Thank you for responding!

I am using the the Sony TV web to get to Pandora. The problem seems to cause the v867 to go into standby mode, only the light in the upper left corner is on. I have to hit the power on button, AV4 shows up again, and music will then go out my speakers. This happens at random time and at different volume levels.

I researching the Bravia Sync options now but believe like I said above my settings are correct. I recently removed my base from xover to input and see if that changes anything.
post #947 of 1176
I gave up on Pandora because the quality is so poor compared to stations like soma fm. I think the 667s come pre programmed out of the box to one of their stations - Groove salad, when you hit net radio. Some of the stations have very high bitrates, 128-192. Pandora seems like 64k.
post #948 of 1176
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Originally Posted by gregoryperkins View Post

I gave up on Pandora because the quality is so poor compared to stations like soma fm. I think the 667s come pre programmed out of the box to one of their stations - Groove salad, when you hit net radio. Some of the stations have very high bitrates, 128-192. Pandora seems like 64k.

Pandora will be 64k unless you pay for it. Then it jumps to 192k. Even at 192k it sounds less clear than some IP radio stations. You can configure all the yradio stuff at:

http://yradio.vtuner.com/setupapp/ya...gin/SignIn.asp

I never used my MAC address after the first login.

[There are several SOMA, none higher than 128k]
post #949 of 1176
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Originally Posted by rrrracerx View Post

Thank you for responding!

I am using the the Sony TV web to get to Pandora. The problem seems to cause the v867 to go into standby mode, only the light in the upper left corner is on. I have to hit the power on button, AV4 shows up again, and music will then go out my speakers. This happens at random time and at different volume levels.

I researching the Bravia Sync options now but believe like I said above my settings are correct. I recently removed my base from xover to input and see if that changes anything.

Like I said, I disabled CEC and ARC on the TV & V867. Have you applied the firmare update? It gets you Pandora on the V867 as a NET option. Should you select the station, it sticks without needing the TV to be powered on since the V867 has no screen saver or album art.
post #950 of 1176
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Originally Posted by cmmiller101 View Post

Good question -- it was a gift so I don't really know the exact price, but I'm guessing it was upwards of $700. I'm pretty sure it came from best buy but they had to drive to another best buy location that had it in stock since the one near us didn't have it in stock. Good luck!

Got mine at the Egg for $399.00 in October 2011. I think they dropped to about 379 or 389 before they were all gone. They are no longer available anywhere that I've seen. The RX-V471 is on NewEgg at @ $349 but this is a 5.1 model. It does have a front USB which eliminates the need for a dock for your iPod or phone device. The RX-V571 is 7.1 and also has the front USB.

On the 867 I can stream using the Harmony App but IMHO hard wire is best. In my spare time I'll try using the USB on my Panasonic TV and the ARC just for grins.

One thing missing from these units as far as I can tell is the HDMI Out 2 which we use for the bedroom TV. Control is via Harmony 900 RF.
post #951 of 1176
I have all of my music ripped and sitting out on a windows server. I installed the squeeze box server on it and could access the music from my squeeze box radio. The 867 sees it too and can play the music from there, but it's so much easier with the Yamaha app (I have 15k songs). The 3.0 looks great on an ipad. If you haven't tried it and want access to your music, go for it.

This applies to the new receivers too.
post #952 of 1176
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Originally Posted by Vancelot View Post

Curious about this also. Are there any release notes about this update?

I never saw an answer posted to this question. Here is the answer:

This firmware includes the following improvements.
1. Improves Rhapsody online music service connectivity (For USA model only)
2. Improves DVI-HDMI conversion cable connectivity
post #953 of 1176
I have the RX-V867. Standby/Passthru mode has been enabled. My PlayStation 3 is connected to the HDMI(3) input of the RX-V867 and the HDMI output goes to my TV.

I have been interested in setting up a media server and have been testing the playability of my movies from the PS3 and my TV. While playing via the PS3 with the receiver in passthru/standby mode, if the movie is encoded with a 5.1 audio track, the only audio I hear coming from the TV is the sound effects. No dialogue. All is fine after powering on the receiver, but this cuts the sound from the TV. If I stream directly to my TV, this works fine. If I bypass the RX-V867 and hook the PS3 directly to the TV, that works fine too.

Any suggestions on what settings need to be changed to make the receiver feed 2ch stereo to my TV in passthru mode?

Also, I'd be curious to know if it is possible to allow the TV speakers to be used while the receiver is on.
post #954 of 1176
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Originally Posted by dboOnTheGo View Post

Also, I'd be curious to know if it is possible to allow the TV speakers to be used while the receiver is on.

I figured this part out. Setup-->HDMI-->Audio Output-->OUT1/OUT2 (on/off).

My focus was to enable sound to the TV in a different room using OUT2. Enabling this produces a slight delay. Not a big deal for OUT2 since it is in a different room, but it is real noticable on OUT1 since it is the main viewing room. Can this be sync'd somehow?
post #955 of 1176
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Originally Posted by dboOnTheGo View Post

While playing via the PS3 with the receiver in passthru/standby mode, if the movie is encoded with a 5.1 audio track, the only audio I hear coming from the TV is the sound effects. No dialogue.

Any suggestions on what settings need to be changed to make the receiver feed 2ch stereo to my TV in passthru mode?

Ok, so I have figured this out as well (sort of). Seems the PS3 remembers the audio settings for the receiver and if I want to play a movie in passthru mode, I need to goto Settings-->Sound Settings-->Audio Output Settings on the PS3 and re-discover the supported formats my TV supports. I know this isn't a PlayStation3 forum, but if anyone knows a way to have this happen automatically I'd love to know.
post #956 of 1176
Hi all,
Tried a search and did not find anything.
Will the remote in jack on the rear panel work with a standard IR repeater or is it just for communicating with other Yamaha units?
TIA
Charlie
post #957 of 1176
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Originally Posted by CD_in_NM View Post

Hi all,
Tried a search and did not find anything.
Will the remote in jack on the rear panel work with a standard IR repeater or is it just for communicating with other Yamaha units?
TIA
Charlie

The "remote port" is badly named. It is for remotely turning other units on when the receiver is on and in a mode that the remote devices are needed and turning those devices off when the receiver is powered off. I have mine hooked to a Belkin PF60 to power on and off both my TV and the Bias lighting behind it when a video mode is used. The remote signal turns off the TV and bias lighting when selecting a non-video signal like the radio.

You are better off using the android or iOS apps for controlling the receiver and hooking the receiver into a wired network and connecting the android/iOS device to the wireless portion of the network. You'll get more functionality, more "coolness" factor, and its all been designed to work together.

If you want to stick with IR, you'll need a more traditional IR repeater setup, but this implementation will probably be more expensive if you don't already own the equipment.
post #958 of 1176
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Originally Posted by iamaven View Post

The "remote port" is badly named. It is for remotely turning other units on when the receiver is on and in a mode that the remote devices are needed and turning those devices off when the receiver is powered off. I have mine hooked to a Belkin PF60 to power on and off both my TV and the Bias lighting behind it when a video mode is used. The remote signal turns off the TV and bias lighting when selecting a non-video signal like the radio.

You are better off using the android or iOS apps for controlling the receiver and hooking the receiver into a wired network and connecting the android/iOS device to the wireless portion of the network. You'll get more functionality, more "coolness" factor, and its all been designed to work together.

If you want to stick with IR, you'll need a more traditional IR repeater setup, but this implementation will probably be more expensive if you don't already own the equipment.

Thanks for the reply. I may be wrong, but it sounds like you might be referring to the trigger out jack.
I was wondering about using the remote in and out jacks that are above the trigger out jack on the rear panel. I bought an IR repeater unit a while back and am finally getting around to hooking it up. I was hoping to use a cable with 1/8 inch plugs to hook up my repeater directly instead of pasting the IR emitter on the front of the RX-V867. Looking at page 30 of the RX-V867 manual, about Scene Link, the picture shows an external device hooked up to the remote in jack and it indicates "Infrared signal receiver or Yamaha component". I was just hoping to get confirmation before I hook up the repeater.
post #959 of 1176
Yes, you should be able to feed an IR signal (the same one that would normally drive an IR emitter) directly to the remote in connector. It works on my RX-V1800.
post #960 of 1176
I currently have a Yamaha 867 and a 7.2 setup. Is there anyway to have 5.1 surround audio coming out of my rear speakers instead of my side speakers?
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