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I am building a house and need advice on how to place the in-wall & in-ceiling speakers. I don't have the speakers yet but will be needing to tell the builder where I want them to cut holes for the rear, front L&R and center channels. It will be a 5.1 setup. They were originally going to do 4 in-ceiling speakers but I think I am going to be able to get them to cut holes for in-ceiling in the rear and in-wall above the fireplace for the LCR speakers.

I guess my question is: what size and placement of the holes should I tell them for the speakers without knowing the speakers I will be using and the size of my TV? Is there a standard size for a round, in-ceiling speaker? Is there a standard placement for in-wall speakers for LCR?

Also, I have a decent 5.1 set of speakers now but they aren't in-wall. Would I be able to use them or would it not work?

Thank you in advance!
Tsetse Fly
post #2 of 6
Well, we need to know what 5.1 you are talking about...and what you mean by "would that work" in a discussion about in-wall.

Since you didn't supply a picture, we have no idea what to tell you.
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Originally Posted by Tsetse Fly View Post

I am building a house and need advice on how to place the in-wall & in-ceiling speakers. I don't have the speakers yet but will be needing to tell the builder where I want them to cut holes for the rear, front L&R and center channels. It will be a 5.1 setup. They were originally going to do 4 in-ceiling speakers but I think I am going to be able to get them to cut holes for in-ceiling in the rear and in-wall above the fireplace for the LCR speakers.

I guess my question is: what size and placement of the holes should I tell them for the speakers without knowing the speakers I will be using and the size of my TV? Is there a standard size for a round, in-ceiling speaker? Is there a standard placement for in-wall speakers for LCR?

Also, I have a decent 5.1 set of speakers now but they aren't in-wall. Would I be able to use them or would it not work?

Thank you in advance!
Tsetse Fly

You can't tell them what size holes to cur because you don't have the speakers. You can have them run the cable and then put a blank wall cover roughly where you will want the speakers (this is what my builder did for our in-ceiling speakers in the upstaris livingroom). Just make sure they give you 6ft or so of slack on the speaker wire.

I would use this is a guide for speaker placement:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WC91ZXX...placement.html

Ideally you want your main in-wall speakers tweeters at ear level.
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ack_bk, thanks for the info! The builder didn't seem to know a lot about how it is done and said I would need to talk to the A/V guy before he does anything. I probably misunderstood him when he told me about it. I was thinking he would go ahead and cut holes and put covers over them so that I could put speakers in whenever I wanted. He has an option to get speakers for an extra charge but I figured I'd want to pick them out myself. Anyway, if I can talk to the A/V guy and tell him where I want the wire to go then I can do the rest later. On the placement, I'll take a look at that guide. I won't be able to get them at ear-level since they will be above the fireplace. I will look into putting the left and right speakers to the left and right of the fire place if that would be possible. I know this won't be an ideal HT setup since there will be wood floors and a bigger, open room but I am trying to make the most of it. Thanks again for the info!

schan1269, I will be putting in a standard 5.1 surround setup. As mentioned in my first post, I am wondering about the placement of Rear L&R, Front L&R and Center speakers. The sub will be placed on the floor next to the A/V equipment. On the in-wall, I am just asking if you can use any speaker as an in-wall as long as it fits in the wall or if there would be a problem with the sound since it isn't made specifically for that. Here is a link to my current speakers. The picture doesn't show the depth of the speaker but you can kind of see the shape in the center channel.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...ss=Speaker&p=i

Thanks guys,
Tsetse Fly
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ack_bk, thanks for the info! The builder didn't seem to know a lot about how it is done and said I would need to talk to the A/V guy before he does anything. I probably misunderstood him when he told me about it. I was thinking he would go ahead and cut holes and put covers over them so that I could put speakers in whenever I wanted. He has an option to get speakers for an extra charge but I figured I'd want to pick them out myself. Anyway, if I can talk to the A/V guy and tell him where I want the wire to go then I can do the rest later. On the placement, I'll take a look at that guide. I won't be able to get them at ear-level since they will be above the fireplace. I will look into putting the left and right speakers to the left and right of the fire place if that would be possible. I know this won't be an ideal HT setup since there will be wood floors and a bigger, open room but I am trying to make the most of it. Thanks again for the info!

schan1269, I will be putting in a standard 5.1 surround setup. As mentioned in my first post, I am wondering about the placement of Rear L&R, Front L&R and Center speakers. The sub will be placed on the floor next to the A/V equipment. On the in-wall, I am just asking if you can use any speaker as an in-wall as long as it fits in the wall or if there would be a problem with the sound since it isn't made specifically for that. Here is a link to my current speakers. The picture doesn't show the depth of the speaker but you can kind of see the shape in the center channel.

http://www.us.onkyo.com/model.cfm?m=...ss=Speaker&p=i

Thanks guys,
Tsetse Fly

I would definitely get speakers made for in-wall use. Since you may not have the most ideal placement, you may want something with a pivoting tweeter:
http://www.amazon.com/SpeakerCraft-A.../dp/B0017LBYCE

Again, don't know the budget, the size of your room, but something like this has a pivoting tweeter and is an enclosed speaker so you won't have nasty in-wall speaker loss. If you are not scared of Ebay you can typically find recommended sellers who sell Speakcraft even cheaper.

If you have more money, it will open up more options
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the information! I'll definitely check those out!
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