The Official Panasonic GT30 Settings Thread - Page 37

i had my set since early this year and applied the firmware updates 2.1 and upgrade to the latest. did Dave-O settings and called it quits. today, i tried to eyeball a new 55Gt50 just recently delivered for work and had it configured to standard settings. IMHO, i think my 55gt30 is still leap and bounds better that this new set. yes, it is over 100 hours of use becuase we have it use to display new information.
i just a chance to run some blu-ray disk on it during the night when it is not in use. heheh, wanted to share this as i am thinking of upgrading my 55GT30 to a VT or GT maybe a 60' but for what is worth, i dont see spending money on this. the difference is small, i can see it
now, all this started for me when i get the 42G10 and i fell in the Fb issue trap back then. this unit sucks and i had to give it to some friend who wanted a TV for his gf for cheap.
the 55Gt30 is well built and as i said above is no different from a 55gt50. again this is IMHO only

GT50 has improvements on THX mode, but in no way warrants upgrading from a gt30. My opinion, if you have a gt30 the next tv you should buy would be on OLED when they're eventually priced for mortal men.

Has anybody updated the firmware to 2.22 released 6/7/2012? Does it have any effect on the color calibrations? (it claims to be a Skype correction)

No effect.

Had similar problems . . . detailed below.

So when I first loaded the S&M dvd and ran though the many setup screens (superficially), everything looked good. The settings were close to perfect and, as you know, these were adjusted by "eyeball"!

-Pluge Low: two bars visible; no adj needed!
-Pluge High: Still perfect, no adj needed!
-Color Bars: Settings were very close, so not changed.
-Sharpness: no problem with current setting!
-Clipping: All levels visible; no adj needed!
-Image Cropping: That blew my mind; the TV was PERFECTLY adjusted at the factory. Amazing!
-Dyn Range High: All levels including peak visible; no adj needed!
-Dyn Range Low: 17 and 18 visible; no adj needed!
-11 Step C-Gray Scale: All 11 levels clearly visible; no adj needed!
-Geometry: Perfect . . TV was setup perfectly at factory.

However there is a "CONTRAST" test that is a dandy. Not sure how realistic it is b/c there's a split screen where HIGH contrast video is viewed along with LOW brightness video. Even though the Pluge Low passed perfectly, this simulation more mimics REAL world complex video.

Anyway with my current settings (in my signature; changes made for increased HI-light and LO-light tracking), I could only see the #22, #23 and #24 black bars in the lowlights (supposed to see from bar #18) and on the highlight side, the upper white bars were "crushed". So contrast is too high and brightness is too low!

To fix that, wasn't easy! Had to basically set the HDMI = "graphics" and AGC = 0. Then reset the contrast =+64 and brightness = 71. Color set 51. Now I have an "almost" reference picture . . . but it sucks big-time. There's absolutely no life or depth to the on-screen video.

I haven't mentioned the color. . . suffice to say it was closer than my settings said and, like Peter, I had to add +3 to the tint. . . which says it was a bit "red" . . . . go figure! But as we all know, when the AGC = 0 and HDMI content = "graphics", the color changes drastically.

However, there's absolutely no way that I would watch that video so my "old" settings were installed (with new Cont and Bright settings to give improved HI- and LO-light tracking) to get 'decent' video again.

If I feel the "urge" I will post the difference to show what video looks like from a well-calibrated set (from a pro) vs a user setup video. The lack of difference will astound you!
Edited by JForge - 8/4/12 at 10:22am

Thanks for your time, I cant stand Graphics being on, The picture is lifeless, dull, and boring, kind of like my marriage JK! But i know exactly what you mean. I would rather have the colors pop, then to be "reference"

Any recommendations on Pros near the Philly area to calibrate my GT30? Thanks guys.

Johnkb24, you'll want to contact Chris Eberle with Precision Video. ceberle@hvc.rr.com. He does tours in eastern PA, and is ISF certified.

I'm going to try a calibration this week with AGC turned on. When I turn it on now, it pushes my colors way out of whack. It certainly does add detail to dark signals, though. Slightly alleviated by turning the color down to 38 and pushing the tint to +3. That's without equipment though, just eyeballing. Hopefully I can come up with the punchy look that AGC does provide with proper color performance as well.

Thanks,I look forward to a your cal with agc...2.2 mid panel with +2 AGC would be great.

Hey GW could you measure the color for standard mode with normal color temp.The reason I ask is I use standard mode when I watch espn sc and fox news to avoid ir and would like to get the color about right and I can never get a get a good measurement using a cal disc.

Also any tips you can give me in regards to your prior sm w/b settings.Fleshtones looked good but I see to much of a green hue in the high end when looking at the greyscale ramp & steps so I had to revert back to default sm values.

Thanks buddy appreciate it.

Yes, it does . . . now you know why I like it on. W/o it, the colors and screen pop goes flat.

However, as you read, with it on along with high CONTRAST settings, there's a white crush evident on S&M BD DVD disc for the "CONTRAST" test. However, I not seen this with other DVD tests only that DVD.

That's why my COLOR settings are consistently "low" . . . around 28 to 32 or so. With AGC greater than "0", you needn't advanced the color setting but if the RGB isn't decently balanced, the colors look like baby-mush!

BTW, when you do your cal, give this a try . . . just for the hell of it; Set HDMI = "graphics" and AGC = 0 and Panel brightness = HIGH. I found with the previous parameters set, setting panel to HIGH gives a great picture. I'm still working on it myself so would be interested in what you find.
Edited by JForge - 8/6/12 at 8:55am

I have the 60" GT30. I did the firmware updates I love you settings..Should I put my W/B settings back to "0" ?

Is that meant for me??? If so, try the settings in my signature. There's no offset correction changes in the SM or Pro Settings for W/B.

Yes,it was meant for you.I've been using the 6/23/12 and the 7/25/12 settings.Why are the w/b settings now at 0?

When a change is made, I don't keep the previous settings . . . but I do remember that the Pro Settings were not "0"s however, don't remember what the offset values were.

To give you the 'whole' story, I found that my settings, in the SM W/B or Pro Settings, sometime don't 'take' . . . but if I do a "reset to defaults", the picture changes . . . magically and is great! So, at present, the TV does not require any Pro Settings or SM W/B changes . . . thus, they're all "0". [BTW, the reset-to-defaults is done for BOTH menus.]

Feel free to experiment with values that may improve your picture. It can't hurt.

BTW, when you do your cal, give this a try . . . just for the hell of it; Set HDMI = "graphics" and AGC = 0 and Panel brightness = HIGH. I found with the previous parameters set, setting panel to HIGH gives a great picture. I'm still working on it myself so would be interested in what you find.
Edited by JForge - Today at 9:55 am

I have been using Panel brightness on HIGH for sometime now and am pleased with the results in a room with west facing windows in a bright environment. Here are my "Custom" settings:
Contrast: 90
Brightness: 59
Color: 47
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 15
Warm 2
W/B High R: -8
High G: 0
High B: -3
Low R: 0
Low G: -4
Low B: 0
Gamma: 2.2
HDMI: Graphics
All other settings at default position

Hi Jorge,

I incorporated your Custom settings and am very glad I did. Once again, thanks for sharing your hard work!

It's been a while since you have updated either Vivid (which started all this) and THX.

Are you still using modes other than Custom? Personally I have been very happy with Vivid in a brightly lit room watching sporting events.

JForge, tried your settings again today, realizing that the first time I tried them I did not have AGC on. With it on, it looked great! I didn't change my SM values, that's the only difference . What's funny is that to the naked eye it is REALLY close to my THX settings.

Peter, I will give it a shot as soon as the olympics are over. My wife isn't surrendering the TV for 2 or 3 hours until it's over. She's obsessed. As far as the green on the greyscale ramp...I'll give it a look, but I didn't run into that at all and have found my color/contrast performance to be spot on. I did scale back to 40 on color on custom, which cooled the image a bit. Of course that's just my set. I'm becoming convinced that they built these GT30s in 50 different factories across the globe, as there seems to be very little consistency.

JForge's settings have been great from the get go, thats what ive been trying to tell all of you!!!!

I'll check them out tomorrow and let you know. Tnx for posting them.

Yes, the CUSTOM mode settings produce the best overall video. Yes, I agree about the VIVID settings.

Wermey, the check is in the mail . . .

I've added direct links to my THX and VIVID in my signature. Updated today (8/6/12).

That explains why you didn't like them . . the AGC really changes the video. Glad you like them. I'm still experimenting w/ the settings I mentioned a post or two back.

Your THX must be great settings . . . my THX look similar but it lacks the screen brightness that Custom has. Right now I just leave it on Custom . . . works for day and evening viewing.

I made some adjustments, but they are strictly for my tastes, by no means are they measured results. I'll preface by saying my tastes are for a richer, natural less 'hot' image. I put the gamma back at 2.4, lowered the contrast to 75, and turned off the black extension. That's it though. Also, am I the only one that gets no difference between AGC +1 or turned all the way to +15? Seems like that should have been an on/off feature.

@Jforge

What color setting did you arrive at for THX using your Spears & Muncil disc?....Your THX settings in your sig is before you bought the disc.

I'am just baffled at how David K from cnet measured 52 for color in THX mode and D-Nice measured 45 in THX and then Dave o gets 48 in THX.

All these guys used a colormeter and its all over the place.I wonder which of the 3 is more accurate.

I got 52+3 with my DVE disc but i feel it can use some more tweaking.

Not sure what you're stating: what basic settings are you using?? Mine??
At times, I've seen a "little" difference but it's certainly not obvious. The only 'big' change is from 0 to +1, after that, it's mostly imagination!

If those are my settings, I'll give those settings a try . . .
Edited by JForge - 8/8/12 at 12:27am

I didn't actually use the S&M dvd for any "serious" THX work. The settings were arrived at using my trial . . plus time . . . plus more tweaking over more time.

Sorry, never really use that mode for any serious viewing, so it's a mystery why such difference settings . . . other than we all know that each set is different, so with different instruments in use by different calibrators, most likely gives different offset correction values.

@ Ghostwriter

I just purchased an i1 display 2 (xrite) colorimeter on ebay in excellent condition for $37,I plan on doing the curt palme greyscale & color cal for dummies to help me calibrate my 55GT30.

I'am hoping to calibrate the sm in cinema warm mode to calibrate THX and to come up with a great custom mode for the upcoming NFL season.

Any tips and pointers besides me blowing my tv up:eek:

I'am determined to slay this dragon one way or another.But please post your new cal settings when you do them in case I gaffe on mine.lol

Wow, what great settings!!! Absolutely the BEST I've seen to date and you're using "WARM2" no less. Congrats on these . . . even WHITE is WHITE! Never have seen such white balance using Warm2.

As I wrote in an earlier post, when the AGC= 0, that removes a lot of picture artifacts b/c of the way it works. Even looking close up (1 ft), the picture is pristine. You ended my experimentation with your settings. No need to improve on perfection!

Yes, it's a LITTLE softer video than my settings, not by much but overall your settings produce much better video.

I made some changes to Cont, Bright and Sharp but those are b/c of my personal preference.

Wermey, et al, give these a try!!!

Update: My unbridled enthusiasm of 4 hrs earlier, has now changed b/c my Panny changes the brightness level from "High" to "Low" or "Med" if the ABL [Automatic Brightness Limiter] kicks in. I've noticed this before when trying to use panel brightness set to "high". I can jog the brightness back to High and if I don't change the channel, it will stay. Anybody else see this problem?

So I find myself watching video that when it changes to "low" looks, most aptly, like "Standard" mode in the as-delivered factory default mode. You all know how bad that is.

So I've had to reluctantly go back to my "custom" settings.
Edited by JForge - 8/10/12 at 9:27am

Hi Jorge,

I agree with you that the settings above are very nice. There were two parameters that you and ggsantafe do not define:

Color Space: ? Normal

Black extension: ?0

Thanks again!

He stated that all other params are "default" so that would make Color Space = Normal and Blk Ext = +5.

So are they good? or great? How do they compare to my Custom?? How about some added explanation?

Not sure yet. I will make the changes you suggest and give it a few hours. Also waiting to see if ABL kicks in and what effect it has.