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post #1231 of 2249
3/11/12 at 3:36pm
I have a couple questions just picked up the 709 and I did a full setup my question is what do i set dynamic volume too(low,medium, or high), dynamic eq(on or off), thx loudness(on or off), and dolby volume(on or off)? Any recommendations would be much appreciated!!!
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post #1232 of 2249
3/11/12 at 3:53pm
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Originally Posted by moejenn517 View Post

I have a couple questions just picked up the 709 and I did a full setup my question is what do i set dynamic volume too(low,medium, or high), dynamic eq(on or off), thx loudness(on or off), and dolby volume(on or off)? Any recommendations would be much appreciated!!!

My opinion, and how I have my system setup is:

Dynamic Volume OFF
Dynamic EQ OFF

THX OFF (After the excitement of THX wore off, I use Straight Decode on all muti-channel signals, Dolby PL II Movie for 2-channel TV/movies and either Stereo or All Channel Stereo for 2-channel music depending on my mood. )

Dolby Volume OFF ( I used it for a little while and while it sounds great at volume levels -12db and quieter, it does something really harsh to the sound when you get anywhere near 0db. )

I found that Dynamic EQ makes dialog harder to hear because it raises the surrounds, and raises the sub level as well, and it just seems to muddy it up. It makes the sound seem artificial to me......................... Others love it, I don't.
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post #1233 of 2249
3/11/12 at 5:20pm
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My opinion, and how I have my system setup is:

Dynamic Volume OFF
Dynamic EQ OFF

THX OFF (After the excitement of THX wore off, I use Straight Decode on all muti-channel signals, Dolby PL II Movie for 2-channel TV/movies and either Stereo or All Channel Stereo for 2-channel music depending on my mood. )

Dolby Volume OFF ( I used it for a little while and while it sounds great at volume levels -12db and quieter, it does something really harsh to the sound when you get anywhere near 0db. )

I found that Dynamic EQ makes dialog harder to hear because it raises the surrounds, and raises the sub level as well, and it just seems to muddy it up. It makes the sound seem artificial to me......................... Others love it, I don't.



Thanks for the inputs I'll give those a try and see how I like it and report back thanks again!
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post #1234 of 2249
3/11/12 at 8:30pm
Not sure if anyone else has seen this. I have the 709 and everything works perfectly, except my PS3. When I use the PS3, the video cuts out the HDMI resyncs, over and over. There is no pattern, I could be playing a game or watching a blu-ray. I've changed the HDMI cables, I plugged my Xbox and Tivo into the same port using the same cable and they work fine. The same PS3 worked great on my 605 that the 709 replaced. Am I missing something here?
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post #1235 of 2249
3/11/12 at 8:52pm
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How do I turn on auto standby so it turns off after a half hour? Supposedly the US default setting is off.

I found it. Mine was already set to on.
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post #1236 of 2249
3/12/12 at 6:51am
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Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

My opinion, and how I have my system setup is:

Dynamic Volume OFF
Dynamic EQ OFF

THX OFF (After the excitement of THX wore off, I use Straight Decode on all muti-channel signals, Dolby PL II Movie for 2-channel TV/movies and either Stereo or All Channel Stereo for 2-channel music depending on my mood. )

Dolby Volume OFF ( I used it for a little while and while it sounds great at volume levels -12db and quieter, it does something really harsh to the sound when you get anywhere near 0db. )

I found that Dynamic EQ makes dialog harder to hear because it raises the surrounds, and raises the sub level as well, and it just seems to muddy it up. It makes the sound seem artificial to me......................... Others love it, I don't.

I tried THX and Dolby and never use it any more.

I keep Audyssey settings on. With 709, both Dynamic Volume and EQ goes hand in hand you cannot choose one and leave the other off. Like D.Bone has said, Audyssey raises the sub / surround levels high. So after the auto setup I always go back and manually raise the L/R/Cs and reduce the sub/surrounds.
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post #1237 of 2249
3/12/12 at 7:48am
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I found it. Mine was already set to on.

Didn't turn it self off after 2hrs so I'm missing something.
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post #1238 of 2249
3/12/12 at 8:16am
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I keep Audyssey settings on. With 709, both Dynamic Volume and EQ goes hand in hand you cannot choose one and leave the other off.

That's not quite right. You can have DEQ ON with DV OFF. That is in fact the default setting after you run Audyssey. You can change DEQ to OFF on the last screen after running Audyssey, that way it will be global, and you don't have to change it for each input.
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post #1239 of 2249
3/12/12 at 8:19am
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Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

That's not quite right. You can have DEQ ON with DV OFF. That is in fact the default setting after you run Audyssey. You can change DEQ to OFF on the last screen after running Audyssey, that way it will be global, and you don't have to change it for each input.

yeah, i'm not sure if i am "playing by the rules" but i definitely think my setup sounds better with DEQ on and DV off.
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post #1240 of 2249
3/12/12 at 10:00am
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You would actually be in the majority of Audyssey featured AVR owners ... Dyn EQ - ON (all the time) with Dyn Vol - OFF (only used for TV for loud commercials and perhaps late night movie watching). Also keep in mind that TV dialog from the center channel can be improved by setting the Dyn EQ Reference Offset (p. 52) setting to 10db so as not to have to raise/lower the individual speaker channel levels.
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post #1241 of 2249
3/12/12 at 10:47am
Should Audyssey be set to movie, music, or off?
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post #1242 of 2249
3/12/12 at 10:56am
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Audyssey must be set to ON in order to use either Dyn EQ or Dyn Vol; however, as unlike setting up the various settings on an HDTV, AVR settings are subjective and will differ from person to person as we all have different hearing capabilities (especially as we age and lose the higher frequency capability) as well as different quality speakers and different room dynamics. Use the setting which sounds best to you.
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post #1243 of 2249
3/12/12 at 3:30pm
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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You would actually be in the majority of Audyssey featured AVR owners ... Dyn EQ - ON


Never have been one to follow the crowd..............




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Originally Posted by moejenn517 View Post

Should Audyssey be set to movie, music, or off?


I have mine set @ Music. For the life of me, I can't hear a difference between Movie or Music. I have 45yr old ears, so your mileage may very!
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post #1244 of 2249
3/12/12 at 4:10pm
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Never have been one to follow the crowd..............







I have mine set @ Music. For the life of me, I can't hear a difference between Movie or Music. I have 45yr old ears, so your mileage may very!

mine is set to music as well, out of necessity since i have that "movie curve" bug some of us have after the last firmware update. sounds fantastic on the music curve though. took me a couple of re-measurements to get everything sounding right but now i'm getting really big impact bass without any hints of distortion.
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post #1245 of 2249
3/12/12 at 4:17pm
^^
The Audyssey Music curve is the same as Audyssey FLAT.
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post #1246 of 2249
3/12/12 at 8:27pm
I appreciate all the help y'all given me this is my first onkyo receiver coming from a Sony STR-DG820 which is a HUGH difference in technology. Not use to all the bells and whistles. Any other suggestions or recommendation you may have I would appreciate it!!
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post #1247 of 2249
3/12/12 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by 03rkc View Post

And technology takes a giant step backwards. I'd laugh but for that much money it's sick.

Try reading the owner's manual. Seek and thee shall find!
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post #1248 of 2249
3/13/12 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by Turboo2u View Post

Try reading the owner's manual. Seek and thee shall find!

Find it for me because I can't?
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post #1249 of 2249
3/13/12 at 7:20am
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Find it for me because I can't?


Here you go: http://63.148.251.135/redirect_servi...709_En_web.pdf
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post #1250 of 2249
3/13/12 at 9:30am
I have my Onkyo TX NR709 fopr a couple of months now and love it but i find it lacks power or it has no bottom end if you know what I mean.I had a Harmon Kardon AVR 210 which was only 40 watts before and to be honest it seems to be just or more powerful than the 709.Is there something that I might have done like maybe using banada plugs to plug into the inputs on the back of the receiver (even though I did the same thing with my 210 and it didn't seem to affect it) or is there something I turned on or off that would diminish power to the extent where I have to turn it up to 70 to watch TV. I thought I notice the difference going from a 40 watt receiver to one that over 100 watts immediately I would really appreciate it if someone could explain what I'm doing wrong. Power is not a big deal now since I moved into an apartment but I'm planning to buy a house in couple of years then i could use the power.
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post #1251 of 2249
3/13/12 at 10:18am
^^
Relax. You're likely not doing anything wrong, the banana clips certainly aren't hurting anything. The 709 uses a logarithmic volume scale which requires the volume to normally be at 60-80 for TV and movies. To provide more headroom to the 709, if you're using a dedicated sub, after running Audyssey, ensure the front mains are reset to 80hz (if set to FULL RANGE).
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post #1252 of 2249
3/13/12 at 11:45am
Also, you say it "lacks power or it has no bottom end", but what is happening is if you ran Audyssey, it smoothed out room mode humps, which results in flatter bass response. If your room had a massive room gain at say 50hz-80hz, which is very common, then you just got used to the "punch" of your sound. Just give it some time, and chances are you'll start to hear and feel different bass notes that you never heard before, because your massive bass hump masked the rest of the bass frequencies, and resulted in a single note, boomy system.
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post #1253 of 2249
3/13/12 at 2:15pm
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+1

@miester -
You need to give the Audyssey setup at least 2-3 weeks to adjust to what "reference" sound (ie. what the mixer intended) should be, before making any "preference" changes back to the boomy bass in which many are more accustomed to hearing.
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post #1254 of 2249
3/13/12 at 6:00pm
Hi all,

I've had this receiver for a couple months now, and am noticing at volumes louder than -20db (I'm using the THX volume method, not the absolute) that music seems to sound a bit crunchy and compressed in the midrange. I listen to a lot of rock and metal, and am wondering if I'm simply pushing this receiver too hard. I visited a high end audio store today and the gentleman there said distortion is not created by driving speakers too hard, but by the speakers outputting the distortion created by the amp. I'm no expert but this felt like it must be only partly true. The amp is rated at 110 watts and my speakers say they can handle a max amp power of 150 watts but aren't intended to be driven consistently at those power levels. They are JBL s26 Studio bookshelf models and have only a 5.5" woofer and a 1" tweeter.

Has anyone gotten clean sound when listening to modern recordings at reference level on this amp? Would upgrading to more much more powerful bookshelf speakers or floorstanding towers give me cleaner sound, or am I simply pushing this receiver's power amp too hard? Any thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated.
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post #1255 of 2249
3/13/12 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Curmudgeon76 View Post

Hi all,

I've had this receiver for a couple months now, and am noticing at volumes louder than -20db (I'm using the THX volume method, not the absolute) that music seems to sound a bit crunchy and compressed in the midrange. I listen to a lot of rock and metal, and am wondering if I'm simply pushing this receiver too hard. I visited a high end audio store today and the gentleman there said distortion is not created by driving speakers too hard, but by the speakers outputting the distortion created by the amp. I'm no expert but this felt like it must be only partly true. The amp is rated at 110 watts and my speakers say they can handle a max amp power of 150 watts but aren't intended to be driven consistently at those power levels. They are JBL s26 Studio bookshelf models and have only a 5.5" woofer and a 1" tweeter.

Has anyone gotten clean sound when listening to modern recordings at reference level on this amp? Would upgrading to more much more powerful bookshelf speakers or floorstanding towers give me cleaner sound, or am I simply pushing this receiver's power amp too hard? Any thoughts and advice would be greatly appreciated.

Need a little more info. Did you run Audyssey? What x-over setting? What listening mode? 2-channel or multi-channel music?

My system consists of the 709, 4 Klipsch WB-14, 1 Klipsch WC-24 and a Cadence CSX-12 Mark II sub. I have run Audyssey, and my x-over for all 5 speakers is 90hz. I use either Stereo or All Channel Stereo as my listening modes for 2-channel CDs, depending on my mood, and I like it loud too. I have heard no signs of distortion, no matter how loud I go, and I play at 0db routinely.
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post #1256 of 2249
3/13/12 at 7:53pm
I have this Receiver for about two weeks now. All of the sudden the iOS/Android app will Not connect with the receiver. I confirmed it is connected to the Network and Network control is enabled. Any suggestions???
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post #1257 of 2249
3/13/12 at 9:12pm
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I have this Receiver for about two weeks now. All of the sudden the iOS/Android app will Not connect with the receiver. I confirmed it is connected to the Network and Network control is enabled. Any suggestions???

DISREGARD! This was resolved by completing a Factory Reset. Hope this is Not an ongoing problem and solution.
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post #1258 of 2249
3/14/12 at 4:33am
Hello!

I seem to have a slight problem with the set-up on this otherwise splendid receiver.
Yesterday, I got my bass shakers (sinus basspumps III). Along with that I got a Dynavox Spark II. I've also got a normal subwoofer.

I'll try to explain, please ask if you need some clarification (I'm really quite bad at explaining stuff simple..)

I figured, since the receiver is a 7.2 I'll just hook up the sub in one SW-input (lets call it SW1) and the Spark II into the other (SW2). It doesnt work. Only the normal subwoofer works, not the shakers. When I swap so that the normal subwoofer is in SW2 and Spark II is in SW1, only the shaker works!

I don't really have a clue what to do here. Is there an option in the receiver to activate the second SW-input?

Oh, and the spark II is connected as such:
709 > RCA (m-m) > y-split (f-m/m) > spark II.

Ideas?
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post #1259 of 2249
3/14/12 at 4:44am
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Both sub preouts should be active. The dual preouts are nothing more than an internal "Y" splitter so you may want to simply connect a "Y" splitter to SW1.
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post #1260 of 2249
3/14/12 at 4:54am
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Both sub preouts should be active. The dual preouts are nothing more than an internal "Y" splitter so you may want to simply connect a "Y" splitter to SW1.

I have a Y-splitter connected to the SW1 right now, connected to both the Spark II and the subwoofer.

It just annoys the hell out of me that I cannot use both of the preouts. I don't understand why.
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