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post #151 of 2352
I picked up one of these a couple of weeks ago to replace a Yamaha RX-V867 that I was unhappy with.

The Yamaha was a nice receiver and worked flawlessly, but it never sounded right. I have 2 12" subs in a small room, and I could not integrate them well with the Yammy. The Yamaha version of Dynamic EQ was weak...and I was constantly fiddling with the settings. And too I agree with the other poster that said this receiver seems to run out of steam when pushed hard, especially on music. It just sounded unnatural to me when pushed hard.

Anyway, I run this with some Polk Monitor 60's for fronts, CSII for the center, and 30's for the surrounds (5.2). I have used Onkyo in the past, and was always impressed with the richness of the sound. This one did not dissapoint. After dialing everything in and level matching my subs, everything sounds terrific. The subs blend in well and having Dynamic EQ and Audyssey in general is much better for me. This is my man cave system in an 8x10 room. I have another system in the living area that is higher end that is run with a Denon AVR. But this Onkyo is no slouch. Hope I have no reliability issues. I am well aware of the issues with the x08 series. In fact I did an install for my father in January with a 708. So far so good.

Has anyone run into any reliability issues yet? This thread is not very active. Is this unit not a good seller among the enthusiasts? It sure does have a lot to offer for the money.
post #152 of 2352
Is it possible to turn off the illuminated volume knob? I'm guessing the answer would also apply to the 809.

Thanks
post #153 of 2352
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Originally Posted by squigly1 View Post

Is it possible to turn off the illuminated volume knob? I'm guessing the answer would also apply to the 809.

Thanks

Yes. Press the "dimmer" button on the unit. First press switches off the iluminated volume bottun. Second and third press dims the display.
post #154 of 2352
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Originally Posted by mde8965 View Post

Has anyone run into any reliability issues yet? This thread is not very active. Is this unit not a good seller among the enthusiasts? It sure does have a lot to offer for the money.

I feel as though the "no news is good news" applies here, especially when considering you're on a forum with many people who are very particular about what they like. That being said, the recent price drops on the 809 may have persuaded a lot of potential buyers to upgrade to that unit instead.

My first 709 lasted about two weeks before failing. Onkyo replaced the unit and it has been smooth sailing ev since.
post #155 of 2352
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Originally Posted by THe_Flash View Post

That being said, the recent price drops on the 809 may have persuaded a lot of potential buyers to upgrade to that unit instead.

My first 709 lasted about two weeks before failing. Onkyo replaced the unit and it has been smooth sailing ev since.

True. The 709 has come down in price at various times too. I was able to get mine for a good but under $600. If the price difference has been only $50 when I was ready to buy I would have bought the 809 too...
post #156 of 2352
question regarding the 2 HDMI outs...

can I use 1 HDMI out to video 1 on my TV for satellite and HDMI out #2 to video 2 on my TV for Blu-ray? I'm asking because I have different picture settings on my TV for satellite and Blu-ray....
post #157 of 2352
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Originally Posted by mde8965 View Post
I picked up one of these a couple of weeks ago to replace a Yamaha RX-V867 that I was unhappy with.

The Yamaha was a nice receiver and worked flawlessly, but it never sounded right. I have 2 12" subs in a small room, and I could not integrate them well with the Yammy. The Yamaha version of Dynamic EQ was weak...and I was constantly fiddling with the settings. And too I agree with the other poster that said this receiver seems to run out of steam when pushed hard, especially on music. It just sounded unnatural to me when pushed hard.

Anyway, I run this with some Polk Monitor 60's for fronts, CSII for the center, and 30's for the surrounds (5.2). I have used Onkyo in the past, and was always impressed with the richness of the sound. This one did not dissapoint. After dialing everything in and level matching my subs, everything sounds terrific. The subs blend in well and having Dynamic EQ and Audyssey in general is much better for me. This is my man cave system in an 8x10 room. I have another system in the living area that is higher end that is run with a Denon AVR. But this Onkyo is no slouch. Hope I have no reliability issues. I am well aware of the issues with the x08 series. In fact I did an install for my father in January with a 708. So far so good.

Has anyone run into any reliability issues yet? This thread is not very active. Is this unit not a good seller among the enthusiasts? It sure does have a lot to offer for the money.
I have a Yamaha 663 and have never felt it sounded good. I tried Onkyo before the Yamaha 3 years ago, and the sounded better but had a 'buzzing' problem when using HDMI. I thought surely Onkyo has their stuff together by now and went to buy the 709 today. The sales guy talked me into buying an open box 808 for about the same price as the 709 sale price. It works but the Audyssey setup only gets as far as the first speaker tone, then it locks up and doesn't do anything else...ugh! Does this company ever make a product without a glitch??? They sound great..but. I've tried calling their support number, and now have listened to them telling me I will served 'soon' for about 25 minutes. I am boxing this thing up and taking it back. Maybe will give the 709 a try. Any input is appreciated.
post #158 of 2352
^^
For better audio fidelity, the 709 is the better buy as it uses the more advanced version of Audyssey MultEQ XT.
post #159 of 2352
Hello


I buy this model 2 days ago and I have a problem.
When I connect XBOX or a SONY foto camera ( play movies from camera ) to a HDMI port I have pictures but I don't have sound. I try different HDMI port but no sound. If I conect XBOX or camera direct to my LCD TV ( same HDMI cable ) I have sound and pictures.
I try factory reset, sound is not on mute. The receiver works fine on radio station or from my DVD conected to analog input.
Is any settings I missed or is a damage unit ?
I have latest firmware

Thank you
post #160 of 2352
Just received my 709 + Polk 60's from Newegg, and have a few questions:

TV is a Sony KDL55HX800

1) Is there a way to test and make sure I have my bi-amps wired correctly?
2) Does the Audyssey feature only work with X.1 surround setups? If not, how do I force the calibration for a Stereo speaker setup?
3) After playing with the OSD, I see that the EQ settings are either On/Off. I'm assuming there is no presets for the EQ?
4) Does anyone have a good overall EQ setting that would be a good starter setup?
5) Is there a way to get 8 Ohm's instead of 6?
6) Is my right speaker going to be a problem in the current position (sound hole covered partly by the fireplace bricks)? Should I get some short stands?

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Auto

post #161 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Autocratic View Post

Just received my 709 + Polk 60's from Newegg, and have a few questions:

TV is a Sony KDL55HX800

1) Is there a way to test and make sure I have my bi-amps wired correctly?
2) Does the Audyssey feature only work with X.1 surround setups? If not, how do I force the calibration for a Stereo speaker setup?
3) After playing with the OSD, I see that the EQ settings are either On/Off. I'm assuming there is no presets for the EQ?
4) Does anyone have a good overall EQ setting that would be a good starter setup?
5) Is there a way to get 8 Ohm's instead of 6?
6) Is my right speaker going to be a problem in the current position (sound hole covered partly by the fireplace bricks)? Should I get some short stands?

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Auto



4) If you select 6 OHM from settings, reciever work with speaker beetwen 6 and 16 OHM

You have conected any device thru HDMI input ?
I connect XBOX and a Sony camera and I have pictures but I don"t have sound .
I don't know if is a broken unit or I missed any settings

Thank you
post #162 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Autocratic View Post

1) Is there a way to test and make sure I have my bi-amps wired correctly?
2) Does the Audyssey feature only work with X.1 surround setups? If not, how do I force the calibration for a Stereo speaker setup?
3) After playing with the OSD, I see that the EQ settings are either On/Off. I'm assuming there is no presets for the EQ?
4) Does anyone have a good overall EQ setting that would be a good starter setup?
5) Is there a way to get 8 Ohm's instead of 6?
6) Is my right speaker going to be a problem in the current position (sound hole covered partly by the fireplace bricks)? Should I get some short stands?

1. Just unplug the bi-amp wires as there's likely no real advantage to it.
2. Audyssey works with a 2.0 setup. There's no "forcing" required. Just run it.
3. Audyssey is an ON/OFF EQ process.
4. How ever it comes out after running it.
5. Answered by previous poster.
6. Certainly not going to help. Stands would likely improve the audio.
post #163 of 2352
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

1. Just unplug the bi-amp wires as there's likely no real advantage to it.
2. Audyssey works with a 2.0 setup. There's no "forcing" required. Just run it.
3. Audyssey is an ON/OFF EQ process.
4. How ever it comes out after running it.
5. Answered by previous poster.
6. Certainly not going to help. Stands would likely improve the audio.

2. Well I'm obviously doing it wrong, somehow. On both Audyssey setup options, I always get an error at the end of the test because there is no sound detected from the other speakers. The small picture during the test always shows a 5.1 surround setup no matter what I change in the other speaker settings.
post #164 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Autocratic View Post


2. Well I'm obviously doing it wrong, somehow. On both Audyssey setup options, I always get an error at the end of the test because there is no sound detected from the other speakers. The small picture during the test always shows a 5.1 surround setup no matter what I change in the other speaker settings.

If I recall correctly, that picture doesn't change during the one reading test. I'm not sure if it does during the multi-read test, but I do recall the system only attempting a signal from the speakers it detected during the first pass. I also can tell you that my 709 began to fail and error at the Audyssey setup repeatedly before the unit failed and had to be replaced. Hopefully the latter isn't what is happening to yours.
post #165 of 2352
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autocratic View Post

Just received my 709 + Polk 60's from Newegg, and have a few questions:

TV is a Sony KDL55HX800

1) Is there a way to test and make sure I have my bi-amps wired correctly?
2) Does the Audyssey feature only work with X.1 surround setups? If not, how do I force the calibration for a Stereo speaker setup?
3) After playing with the OSD, I see that the EQ settings are either On/Off. I'm assuming there is no presets for the EQ?
4) Does anyone have a good overall EQ setting that would be a good starter setup?
5) Is there a way to get 8 Ohm's instead of 6?
6) Is my right speaker going to be a problem in the current position (sound hole covered partly by the fireplace bricks)? Should I get some short stands?

Thanks in advance for any help.

-Auto


i am amazed that your 709 is not frying up in cabinet like that, ouch the heat
post #166 of 2352
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Originally Posted by walexw View Post

Hello


I buy this model 2 days ago and I have a problem.
When I connect XBOX or a SONY foto camera ( play movies from camera ) to a HDMI port I have pictures but I don't have sound. I try different HDMI port but no sound. If I conect XBOX or camera direct to my LCD TV ( same HDMI cable ) I have sound and pictures.
I try factory reset, sound is not on mute. The receiver works fine on radio station or from my DVD conected to analog input.
Is any settings I missed or is a damage unit ?
I have latest firmware

Thank you

you have sound at least i have sony camera also my picture would blink and go in n out handshake issue also with my bluray player , i am hoping a new firmware will correct this , spoke with onkyo they quoted mid september ...
post #167 of 2352
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Originally Posted by mde8965 View Post

I picked up one of these a couple of weeks ago to replace a Yamaha RX-V867 that I was unhappy with.

The Yamaha was a nice receiver and worked flawlessly, but it never sounded right. I have 2 12" subs in a small room, and I could not integrate them well with the Yammy. The Yamaha version of Dynamic EQ was weak...and I was constantly fiddling with the settings. And too I agree with the other poster that said this receiver seems to run out of steam when pushed hard, especially on music. It just sounded unnatural to me when pushed hard.

Anyway, I run this with some Polk Monitor 60's for fronts, CSII for the center, and 30's for the surrounds (5.2). I have used Onkyo in the past, and was always impressed with the richness of the sound. This one did not dissapoint. After dialing everything in and level matching my subs, everything sounds terrific. The subs blend in well and having Dynamic EQ and Audyssey in general is much better for me. This is my man cave system in an 8x10 room. I have another system in the living area that is higher end that is run with a Denon AVR. But this Onkyo is no slouch. Hope I have no reliability issues. I am well aware of the issues with the x08 series. In fact I did an install for my father in January with a 708. So far so good.

Has anyone run into any reliability issues yet? This thread is not very active. Is this unit not a good seller among the enthusiasts? It sure does have a lot to offer for the money.

8x10 room room i am shocked if Audyssey works my room is 8'width and 15' long onkyo told me my room is to small thats why my speakers drop to like -9db after Audyssey
post #168 of 2352
^^
Not sure why you are shocked? The Onkyo sets the speakers to -9db obviously because the room is small and must tone down the speaker volume accordingly; however, Audyssey filters are still working.
post #169 of 2352
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Not sure why you are shocked? The Onkyo sets the speakers to -9db obviously because the room is small and must tone down the speaker volume accordingly; however, Audyssey filters are still working.

thanks jdsmoothie, only reason i understand since my speakers are in the -9db ,i have to pump the volume between 70 to 75 hear it a bit good,then 90 to max for good theatre sound with setting of IntelliVOL at +12db ,then i notice my reciever is producing a lot of heat.
post #170 of 2352
Rather than raise, InteliVolume ... why not just raise the speaker trim from -9db to closer to 0db, unless you only want that one source affected?
post #171 of 2352
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Rather than raise, InteliVolume ... why not just raise the speaker trim from -9db to closer to 0db, unless you only want that one source affected?

as i spoke with onkyo they told me to raise all my speakers to +5db , boy this reciever does have power and its really loud @ 40 - 50 ,only reason i like to use audessey seting i thought each speaker needs to be in different db range or is it just the feet and hertz ? thanks jdsmoothie
post #172 of 2352
^^
Not sure I understand the logic of just randomly raising the speaker trims from -9db to +5db, rather than raising it a few db at a time to see if it's appropriate and then raising it a few more db if desired. And no clue what you mean by each speaker needs to be in different db range?
post #173 of 2352
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Not sure I understand the logic of just randomly raising the speaker trims from -9db to +5db, rather than raising it a few db at a time to see if it's appropriate and then raising it a few more db if desired. And no clue what you mean by each speaker needs to be in different db range?


And no clue what you mean by each speaker needs to be in different db range?
Example A : Front Left -3db Center -1db - Front Right -4db

B : Front Left +5db Center +5db- Front Right +5db

Choose A Right?

I just going to pick up a SPL meter later today from radio shack, see how well that'll work setting each speaker @75db

what volume shall i set my 709 when doing SPL volume 60?
post #174 of 2352
Hey guys. I am looking into purchasing this receiver for my first HT set up. I pretty much had my mind set on it until a couple people told me to stay away from Onkyo because they are prone to over heating. What do you guys think? I really like this receiver but ever since I heard that, I have been looking at Yamaha's and Denons.
post #175 of 2352
Got mine ordered from Vanns today for a pretty good price I think. I've been using a Sony da5es for nearly a decade now, I think it was time to upgrade. I loved the sony, so hopefully the onkyo won't let me down.
post #176 of 2352
Hello, I don't own a 709, but was wondering if anyone has connected a seperate power amp. How do you control it with no 12 volt trigger? Is there perhaps a menu option to turn zone 2 trigger into main system trigger? Thanks for the info!
post #177 of 2352
^^
AFAIK, you just have to turn Zone 2 ON which in turn turns the amp ON ... doesn't matter if it's being used for the main zone speakers. Although you can also use a smart power strip like this one as well.
post #178 of 2352
anyone has this reciever in a small room? can you kindly post your setting
hope not to much to ask, thank you
post #179 of 2352
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Originally Posted by ObsceneJesster View Post
Hey guys. I am looking into purchasing this receiver for my first HT set up. I pretty much had my mind set on it until a couple people told me to stay away from Onkyo because they are prone to over heating. What do you guys think? I really like this receiver but ever since I heard that, I have been looking at Yamaha's and Denons.
Onkyo seems to have solved the hot running issue on these newer models..but their QC is still rather suspect. Last years models had a lot of problems, and their customer service has not dealt with it very well judging by the postings on the x-08 series threads Time will tell on this new series.
post #180 of 2352
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Originally Posted by AlanBuck View Post
Onkyo seems to have solved the hot running issue on these newer models..but their QC is still rather suspect. Last years models had a lot of problems, and their customer service has not dealt with it very well judging by the postings on the x-08 series threads Time will tell on this new series.
Onkyo seems to have solved the hot running issue ,not to sure my 709 after 20mins cannot touch the right top side front were amp is -its way to hot it can burn my hand....
maybe i crank it too high ear bleeding type of loudness playing audio CDs.
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