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post #1501 of 2352
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Try cycling the VieraLink and RIHD settings to OFF then ON again. Then unplug the power to both devices for about 10-15 minutes.
post #1502 of 2352
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Originally Posted by tydas View Post

How about this for overkill, Logitech Squeezebox Touch! the WAF would be very high though! Looks so easy to operate

Since it does have both optical and rca outs i'm wondering if this can go to both zone 1 and 2? zone 2 for when listening to music on deck while still watching tv and zone 1 for when listening to music in main living area?

Yup.
post #1503 of 2352
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Try cycling the VieraLink and RIHD settings to OFF then ON again. Then unplug the power to both devices for about 10-15 minutes.

Thanks for the suggestion jdsmoothie, unfortunately no luck. Receiver volume not working and still getting 'Feature not available' under Viera Link.
post #1504 of 2352
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Originally Posted by LansdaleHokie View Post


there's no way to get sound to Zone 2 from digital sources. Toslink and HDMI are both digital connections. If you want to hear music from your Tivo on your Zone 2 speakers you have to connect via red / white rca cables.

Correct. It actually has a little blurb about it in the manual for the 709. A little disappointed in this. Incidentally I was able to accomplish it with a ps3 as the input source using dual audio output, but then your audio gets crippled to 5.1 Dolby digital and of course if you run the zone 2 rcas out to a second receiver and attempt to play the same source as zone 1, you get 2 audio streams that are out of sync.
post #1505 of 2352
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Originally Posted by PeterBecker View Post

Thanks for the suggestion jdsmoothie, unfortunately no luck. Receiver volume not working and still getting 'Feature not available' under Viera Link.

Which HDMI input are you using for the TV? Try TV/CD in case you haven't already.
post #1506 of 2352
Is my 709 bad or is it a set-up issue?

I am normally a denon guy, but I just purchased an onk 709...I just couldn't pass it up for under 400 bones delievered.

Anyway I got it delivered today and set it up in my bedroom to test it out (I didn't have time to pull apart the living rm HT to install it today). The bedroom set up consists of 2 polk monitor 40s and no other speakers. I connected the speakers up and connected ps3 and sat receiver up via HDMI and HDMI out to the tv. Ran audessey and started listening. First thing I notice was a very audible hiss/static/distortion sound coming from mostly the left channel, even at very moderate volume levels (-30 on the dial). I shut it down checked all connections and fired it back up...same issue. I swapped my left speaker for one of my sons monitor 40s to rule out speaker problems...same thing. I reset the processor and reran audeyssey and no change. I tried multiple source content - direct tv, ps3 music files, ps3 bluray, amazon instant video and no changes.

I then started playing with some different settings, and it seems that there is virtually no noise when in the "direct listening mode". All other modes seem to exhibit the noise. So my question is this, is the noise I am hearing due to being set up only as a 2 channel rig, therefor any extra processing the avr tries to do doesn't work properly or is the 709 bad? I'm thinking it is bad, but as I am new to onkyo's, I was wondering if there is a setting that needs to be adjusted or if the "direct listening mode" is the correct mode for my 2 channel bedroom set up. Or possibly could a bad HDMI cable cause this noise? I also didn't have time to check the firmware to see if it is current.
post #1507 of 2352
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There should be no issue with just running 2CH stereo and Audyssey will work as well. Note however, that Onkyo has a recall on most models mfr'd from Nov '11 - Jan '12 as noted in this post with static at low volume being one of the issues. So you'll want to check the serial number as your unit may need to be returned for recall repair.
post #1508 of 2352
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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There should be no issue with just running 2CH stereo and Audyssey will work as well. Note however, that Onkyo has a recall on most models mfr'd from Nov '11 - Jan '12 as noted in this post with static at low volume being one of the issues. So you'll want to check the serial number as your unit may need to be returned for recall repair.


Thanks JD, I knew the onks had a recall, I just haven't looked into it yet. Will do right now. I kinda bought the 709 without really thinking too much about the onk issues over recent years. Hopefully that is the issue and I can get it resolved quickly.
post #1509 of 2352
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Originally Posted by howardru View Post

Which HDMI input are you using for the TV? Try TV/CD in case you haven't already.

I'm using HDMI 2 (ARC). Have also tried resetting TV to shipping condition, still no luck with Viera Link ('Feature not available')

Last test is to restore the 709 to factory settings, which I am trying to avoid. If need be will try that though, and then look to Onkyo or Panasonic for a solution.
post #1510 of 2352
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Originally Posted by tydas View Post

I understand however you could use DLNA on the AVR to play your Itunes library on your PC and then use the Onkyo app to control the music..not exactly airplay but does allow remote functionality with iphone to play library...

The music library doesn't have to reside on your PC for DLNA. My music library is stored on an Android-based device, with the Onkyo remote app installed. It is connected to my home network via Wifi, and the Onkyo TX-NR709 via Ethernet. I can use the Onkyo app to browse music collection, then play (stream) it directly to the 709. (I noticed it puts the receiver on the "net, DLNA" as source) It even displays metadata (ID3 tag and album art) on the TV.

That's pretty much the equivalent functionality of Airplay audio streaming that people are looking for... you just need to have your NR709 connected to a Wifi access point/router. Unfortunately, this is for Zone 1 only - but I understood that Zone 2 support was very bare-bones (analog inputs only) for the NR709.

I cannot speak for the IOS flavor of the Onkyo app though - I do not own any Apple products.
post #1511 of 2352
Thought I'd try this question one more time - anyone? It's obviously not an issue on a typical album of songs, but in much progressive rock, or on live albums, it's a definite annoyance..

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Originally Posted by frank3si View Post

I was very happy to discover that this Onkyo can play back lossless FLAC files from USB cards or storage devices attached to the USB dock on the front panel. However, mine seems to be inserting a second or two of silence between tracks, which is not desirable when one song is supposed to flow directly into another. Playing the same files via VLC Media Player on my PC yields seamless playback, so I know it's not the source material.

Has anyone else noticed this, and is there a cure, or is this just the Onkyo analyzing the file in preparation for playing it?

Cheers!
post #1512 of 2352
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Originally Posted by PeterBecker View Post

Hi everyone

I'm a new member and have recently purchased an Onkyo 709. Very happy with it so far!

Does anyone use their 709 successfully with Viera Link?
I have a new Panasonic P50GT50, and Viera Link has only worked once.

Basically when the 709 is on and I change volume using the TV remote, the receiver volume should change and not the TV's. No sound comes out of the TV when the 709 is on (even when TV volume is turned up) which is correct, so the TV knows the sound is coming from the receiver, but it still doesn't change the receiver volume anymore.

I have seen it work once. When changing volume with the TV remote, the TV displayed Home Theater Volume and the 709 volume changed.

Now it doesn't. When I go to Viera Link it says 'Feature not available.' I gather the issue could be the TV, not the amp, but I'm not sure.

Virea Link is set to on on the TV, and RIHD is on on the 709.

I have read posts suggesting turning off everything for a few minutes and trying again, this didn't help. I have also read that Viera Link only works properly with Panasonic products, so maybe it was a freak chance that it worked once.

Any ideas? Is this a TV or a receiver issue?

from what I have read.. you need to have the HDMI from the receiver to the tv on HDMI 1 (tv). then turn on the settings in the tv and receiver. it should work. it wont work on HDMI 2 and 3 on the tv.

Jacob
post #1513 of 2352
At least on the V20, ARC is on HDMI2 to be able to use that, that's where I had to setup mine and it works fine..
post #1514 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

from what I have read.. you need to have the HDMI from the receiver to the tv on HDMI 1 (tv). then turn on the settings in the tv and receiver. it should work. it wont work on HDMI 2 and 3 on the tv.

Jacob

Note that on some TVs, HDMI1 is the ARC input, while on others (eg. Panasonic) HDMI2 is the ARC input.
post #1515 of 2352
NR709 = NR809 minus Isf controls, Zone 3, back USB (and some other minor differences)

Is this about right?
post #1516 of 2352
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

Note that on some TVs, HDMI1 is the ARC input, while on others (eg. Panasonic) HDMI2 is the ARC input.

my panasonic gt25 has it on HDMI 1.

Jacob
post #1517 of 2352
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My point was that not all TVs use HDMI1 for ARC so it's important to check the TV Owner's manual to set it up properly.
post #1518 of 2352
ARC on my 50GT50 is on HDMI 2.

I have tried both HDMI 1 and 2, have tried resetting TV and AVR to factory settings, powering off for 30 mins. Also tried another cable (1m instead of 2m)
Still no Viera Link though.

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Originally Posted by tmu77 View Post

At least on the V20, ARC is on HDMI2 to be able to use that, that's where I had to setup mine and it works fine..

tmu77 does your Viera Link let TV remote power your AVR on and off as well as control volume?
post #1519 of 2352
I am a refugee from the TX-SR707 thread. My TX-SR707 just "died" (no sound from the speakers) 5 months after the warranty expired.

I am considering the NR709. Are there any festering problems with this product?

I hate rewarding Onkyo with another sale, but I like their price/feature and I'm familiar with their (now failed) product.

Anything to watch for before buying the TX-NR709?
post #1520 of 2352
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Originally Posted by alokeprasad View Post

I am a refugee from the TX-SR707 thread. My TX-SR707 just "died" (no sound from the speakers) 5 months after the warranty expired.

I am considering the NR709. Are there any festering problems with this product?

I hate rewarding Onkyo with another sale, but I like their price/feature and I'm familiar with their (now failed) product.

Anything to watch for before buying the TX-NR709?

Many of us are traveled the same path.....

So far, so good. Great receiver with great new features.. No reports of HDMI board issues.
post #1521 of 2352
although Customer Service is poor, so the AVS thread is very helpful mostly, but if you have something specific it will be a battle. I am still waiting for a response from Onkyo CS for an issue for 1 week.
post #1522 of 2352
i had a onkyo 707 and now moving up to the 809
no problems with the 707
post #1523 of 2352
Thanks for the replies. I am also considering Denon AVR2312CI or AVR2112CI which has Airplay and 3 year warranty ...
post #1524 of 2352
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Originally Posted by PeterBecker View Post

tmu77 does your Viera Link let TV remote power your AVR on and off as well as control volume?

Yes, on the TV I have Viera Link On. HDMI Content Type set to Auto - to allow the TV remote power button to turn off/on the Onkyo then just enable Power links.

This obviously allows you to use the TV remote Viera Link button to choose if you want the AMP speakers or just TV.
post #1525 of 2352
Hello fellow TX-NR709 owners,

NOOB alert!!!!!!!!!

Not only am I new to the forum but I'm new to surround sound and receivers. I recently purchased my so called setup. I have searched on Google and here but can't find any answers. I don't know if this is stupid and basic so please be gentle.

I ran the Audyssey calibration for 6 locations (at least 5 different times now) in my small living room. I watched Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, Thor, Tron Legacy, and others. Most of the sound is coming from the front left, right, and center speakers. Most of the bass is coming from the center and not the sub. I expected more enveloping sound in the room because when I'm at Best Buy listening to those setups the sub always seems to fire and sound seems to come from everywhere. I know part of the problem is inferior speakers. I do get sound from all speakers and the sub just not a lot from the surrounds and sub. I've read about surround sound setup and still don't fully understand everything I should do. I don't understand the different listening modes on the Onkyo even though I read the entire manual twice. Can someone enlighten me? What am I doing wrong? Would front high speakers help? Any help is greatly appreciated.

My setup...

Onkyo TX-NR709
Oppo BDP-93
Jamo S426 HCS3 Speakers (Using Floors and Surrounds, not the center)
Polk Audio CSI3 Center
Wire 14 AWG with bannana clips
Klipsch Sub SW-350

btw, what is 0, 180 phase on the sub and what should I set it to?
post #1526 of 2352
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Welcome to AVS Forum.

Ideally you should use all 8 mic positions that MultEQ XT is capable of doing, not just 6. Also are you using a mic tripod or boom mic stand as is suggested? After running Audyssey, did you ensure all speakers are reset (if necessary) to a minimum of an 80hz crossover? Refer to the Audyssey Setup Guide linked in my sig for more details.
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Can anyone confirm this bug. I have my HTPC hooked up to my new 709 and when I play 1080p 24hz material it shifts my screen left. It only does this through the main HDMI. HDMI Sub is fine. I have the monitor out set to through and the picture mode set to direct. I updated the firmware yesterday and I dont believe it was doing this pre update. Is there any way to return to a previous firmware? This is driving me mad. I want the osd so I would prefer to use the main HDMI output. If anyone else has seen this bug and resolved it let me know. Or, if you have any ideas please let me know.
post #1528 of 2352
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Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

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Welcome to AVS Forum.

Ideally you should use all 8 mic positions that MultEQ XT is capable of doing, not just 6. Also are you using a mic tripod or boom mic stand as is suggested? After running Audyssey, did you ensure all speakers are reset (if necessary) to a minimum of an 80hz crossover? Refer to the Audyssey Setup Guide linked in my sig for more details.

Thanks for replying jdsmoothie. Yes I used a tripod but will try the 8 position calibration and the link in your signature
post #1529 of 2352
I can get a 2112 at $XXX, a 2312 at $XXX + $100 or an Onkyo 709 at $XXX.92 (the XXXs are so I don't violate the price talk rules). I am replacing a Denon 3803 and I have owned a Denon CD player and DVD player. I have never owned anything by Onkyo. The features seem very close. I know the Onkyo has a boatload more inputs but something about that isn't selling me. We do not currently have any Apple products (but my wife is threatening to trade her BlackBerry for an iPhone). My system consists of the following:

Panasonic TC-65PS14, 65" Plasma
Dish DVR-522 SD DVR (planning to upgrade to Dish HD soon, currently connected to the AVR via S-video cable and optical audio cable & to the GoVideo via composite (Left-Right-Video) cable)
GoVideo VR 3390 DVD Recorder
Toshiba DVR-610 DVD Recorder (thought the GoVideo was dying) (Has HDMI)
OPPO BDP-83 BluRay Player (currently connected directly to the Panasonic with the audio run back to the AVR via optical cable)
Sony C601ES CD Changer (connected via optical cable)
Polk Audio RM 8 Front & Center, RM 7 Surrounds (x4)
Pioneer powered Subwoofer

Thanks in advance for any ideas you all can give me, especially whether the 2112 v. 2312 is worth the $100 difference.

Mark

PS - - I put this same post in the Denon xx12 thread.
post #1530 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Mark L. View Post

I can get a 2112 at $XXX, a 2312 at $XXX + $100 or an Onkyo 709 at $XXX.92 (the XXXs are so I don't violate the price talk rules). I am replacing a Denon 3803 and I have owned a Denon CD player and DVD player. I have never owned anything by Onkyo. The features seem very close. I know the Onkyo has a boatload more inputs but something about that isn't selling me. We do not currently have any Apple products (but my wife is threatening to trade her BlackBerry for an iPhone). My system consists of the following:

Panasonic TC-65PS14, 65" Plasma
Dish DVR-522 SD DVR (planning to upgrade to Dish HD soon, currently connected to the AVR via S-video cable and optical audio cable & to the GoVideo via composite (Left-Right-Video) cable)
GoVideo VR 3390 DVD Recorder
Toshiba DVR-610 DVD Recorder (thought the GoVideo was dying) (Has HDMI)
OPPO BDP-83 BluRay Player (currently connected directly to the Panasonic with the audio run back to the AVR via optical cable)
Sony C601ES CD Changer (connected via optical cable)
Polk Audio RM 8 Front & Center, RM 7 Surrounds (x4)
Pioneer powered Subwoofer

Thanks in advance for any ideas you all can give me, especially whether the 2112 v. 2312 is worth the $100 difference.

Mark

PS - - I put this same post in the Denon xx12 thread.

I am leaning towards 2312ci because of AirPlay. I have lots of apple devices.
As for 2112ci vs 2312ci, the first post in the Denon thread has some pretty good thoughts on that.
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