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post #1861 of 2352
I have a question regarding the Audyssey MultEQ Movie / Music curves + RE-EQ.

I have read through the Audyssey 101/FAQ/Setup Guide and also A Guide to Audyssey in the blu-ray.com forum. I am confused by some Onkyo specific statements in the blu-ray forum guide. I have a 3.0 system.
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There is no way to have Audyssey Flat in Onkyo products without having the THX mode engaged.
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In Onkyo receivers with THX, if you turn on Re-EQ and you are not in THX mode, then you will be using the Audyssey Reference curve plus Re-EQ.

Now when I set up my Audyssey, then for inputs Game (Xbox 360) and TV/CD (Sharp with ARC), using the Receiver > Home > Audio > Audyssey menu, I can select Off/Music/Movie curve as also RE-EQ On/OFF independently of each other. Does this conflict with the above 2 quotes which are from Chris Kyriakakis (Audyssey) himself?

Also, when I switch to NET input, using the same above menu, I can select Audyssey Off/Music/Movie curve but now the RE-EQ option is disabled. Is RE-EQ disabled for NET input?

I have never seen the RE-EQ(THX) option? Where is it? Or rather is it not Active because of my 3.0 system?
post #1862 of 2352
hello,

We just picked up a 709 demo unit from the local BB Magnolia store. They were unable to locate the remote and the Audyssey setup microphone and are ordering replacements. So my question is, is it possible to do a basic manual speaker setup using the receiver buttons instead of the remote? I just want to set speaker size and levels. I downloaded a user manual and will read through it again.

Thank you
post #1863 of 2352
I dont think there is speaker sizes on onkyo 709

For now Set your Speakers all to 80 and LPF of LFE to 120.

measure distances with a measuring tape for now and set those.

If you have a left or right speaker too close to you, turn volume down on it or too far turn it up ETC

this wil work til ur mic gets in
post #1864 of 2352
ok,

i reset the receiver back to "factory" settings. I went through the setup menu and st the speaker levels. I had my wife hold the radio shack meter while i raised and lowered the level loudness at the receiver. I have an external amp powering my DIY subs and have it connected to the sub pre-out. Should i connect it to the pre-out meant for external sub amp? Also i noticed that the picture brightness is a lot brighter with more pop when i am using the PS3. When this was connected to my Pioneer it was not this bright. I did not mess with any of the picture settings in the set up menu. Could this be that the pioneer was causing it not to be as bright maybe? For now i just have to wait for BB to order the remote and mic so i can really set it up.

Thank you.
post #1865 of 2352
The HDMI blacked out on mine again. Unplugging and replugging fixed it but my poor wife was stuck at home all night with no TV while I was at work. Do I have a lemon or is this really happening to everyone? Since a reset fixes things it seems like a software issue to me, but who knows. I definitely can't live with this behavior since my unit is plugged in behind the wall and it's a project just getting to the plug. Gonna try the breaker next time.

Past my return window and regretting it. Features and sound-wise I can't find another comparable receiver from another brand. Did they fix things in the newer model?

Sound off if you have the HDMI problems. I want to know if it's isolated or not.
post #1866 of 2352
I've had mine since last December without a single glitch, but I'm waiting for any issue like this to happen, and I'll be going back to Yamaha. I like my 709, but I hate the feeling of dread every time I hit the power button. mad.gif
post #1867 of 2352
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Originally Posted by D Bone View Post

I've had mine since last December without a single glitch, but I'm waiting for any issue like this to happen, and I'll be going back to Yamaha. I like my 709, but I hate the feeling of dread every time I hit the power button. mad.gif

I feel the same but can't find a single affordable alternative feature wise...and aside from this damn HDMI think the Onkyo receivers sound awesome. Big toroidal power supplies, burr brown DACs and Audyssey paired with ample power get the job done.

I hope I can resolve this. Maybe I just got a flaky one.
post #1868 of 2352
Thought i would just give my impression after a few days of playing around with the receiver.

First off since i do not have the Audyssey mic or the remote i have a done a quick and dirty setup. I am using a PS3 for blu-ray and it is set to Bitstream. Here are my x-over settings.

Fronts and Backs Polk Audio RT55 - 80hz "THX"
Center - AV123 X-CS - 80hz "THX"
Sound Splinter 2 x 12 inc DIY subs with 1400w Tapco Juice amp - LPF of LFE set to 120hz @ -8.5db level

So far i am liking this 709, I guess if i can put it in words, it sounds "richer" and "warmer" with more "depth" compared to the Pioneer VSX-918V that it replaced. Have not had a real chance to really put it through the paces yet. We had picked up The Hunger Games the other day since the kids wanted to see it so we watched that and the Forest Fire scene sounded good. I found the center channel voices to be just a little low though but otherwise everything sounded good. Put some GH Metallica on and had it cranked up pretty decent for a hour or so and it sounded very good. The receiver was just barely warm so there were no heat issues and it was a lot cooler then the pioneer was.

I have been reading this whole thread and the Audyssey Thread also, just trying to get myself familiar with the Audyssey setup process and any other little tips and tricks with this receiver.

Thank you
post #1869 of 2352
I installed a specially switched power outlet for my 709 to make power cycling easier.

So yes, I'd say HDMI issues are pretty common.
post #1870 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Category 5 View Post

The HDMI blacked out on mine again. Unplugging and replugging fixed it but my poor wife was stuck at home all night with no TV while I was at work. Do I have a lemon or is this really happening to everyone? Since a reset fixes things it seems like a software issue to me, but who knows. I definitely can't live with this behavior since my unit is plugged in behind the wall and it's a project just getting to the plug. Gonna try the breaker next time.
Past my return window and regretting it. Features and sound-wise I can't find another comparable receiver from another brand. Did they fix things in the newer model?
Sound off if you have the HDMI problems. I want to know if it's isolated or not.

I have had this HDMI issue on several occasions. (Updated firmware around March 2012). The problem last occurred on Monday of this week, previous time was about 45 days ago.
post #1871 of 2352
Hey Guys,
I noticed my receiver was still very warm many hours after i turn it off. So, i tried turning RIHD off since i no longer have a need for that functionality hoping the receiver will completely shut off . However, the receiver is still very warm after i shut it off.

Any idea on how to completely shut it down? Note, the only component i have connected to the receiverthat's powered on 24/7 is the DVR cable box.

Thanks!
post #1872 of 2352
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Originally Posted by skiracer_blah View Post

Hey Guys,
I noticed my receiver was still very warm many hours after i turn it off. So, i tried turning RIHD off since i no longer have a need for that functionality hoping the receiver will completely shut off . However, the receiver is still very warm after i shut it off.
Any idea on how to completely shut it down? Note, the only component i have connected to the receiverthat's powered on 24/7 is the DVR cable box.
Thanks!

When in Standby, what is shown on the Display of the 709?

It should be completely blank. Then Standby power is <1w, so don't worry.

If you have Through(?) or Net then you need to turn these off too. Else Power is ~30w, so may stay warm.
post #1873 of 2352
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

When in Standby, what is shown on the Display of the 709?
It should be completely blank. Then Standby power is <1w, so don't worry.
If you have Through(?) or Net then you need to turn these off too. Else Power is ~30w, so may stay warm.

Just looked at my display carefully and it says "Z2 which is Zone 2". I initially thought it just said "ZZ" and thought it was in some sort of sleep mode so i just ignored it.

Just read the instructions on how to turn off Zone 2 and now my receiver turns off with the display completely blank. Thanks!!
post #1874 of 2352
ZZ - biggrin.gif
post #1875 of 2352
Originally Posted by Semp1

Honestly. You really should keep the video processor on skip. It affects the video signal in a negative way. Unless you need something truly upscaled there really is no reason to keep it on and even then I could bet most TV scalers are still better. It truly is terrible in every sense of the word. Whether or not you realize the Onkyo's affect video that should be left alone. Run some tests running 3:2 pull down and 24fps with it off and on. I bet you see a difference. And not the "Direct" setting. Completely Skip it. Use a calibration disc if you have one. Preferably Spears & Munsil. Also pay close attention to scenes that pan from point A...............to.................point B. You'll see frame skips. Most people don't notice this at first but once you do you never can stop noticing it.

I have an onkyo NR709 with the last firmware upgrade connected to a projector, with camera spans the picture was really bad, missing a lot of frames. No smooth motion at all.
First I thought it was due to mine projctor but then I found this post from Semp 1 and turned the video processing off.
Hardly no frame skips anymore, is so much better to watch the big screen now.

This is how you can turn your video processing off:
1) On the unit itself, press VCR/DVR and the Return buttons at the same time and hold both buttons
2) "Video processing USE" should show on the front display
3) While still holding down the VCR/DVR button, release the Return button, then press again and that will cycle between "Video processing USE/Skip"
4) Use = ON / Skip = OFF

I advice you specially when you have a big screen to turn it off (you can allways turn it on again smile.gif)

Twan
post #1876 of 2352
When I operate in USB mode or NET mode the on screen menues relayed to my TV (Samsung UN55d7900) gets "snowy". Is this an HDMI output problem with the reveiver?
post #1877 of 2352
Ok, I need some help.

I've got the Left, Right, Center speakers, and Subwoofer hooked up to my reciever.

I recently built a pair of open baffle speakers, Isaac build over on PE Techtalk, and I've hooked them up to the Zone 2 / Front High connection.

I also have my old Playstation 1 plugged into the "Game" RCA connections.

When I enable Zone 2, I can barely hear the Open baffle speakers if i put my ear up to them.

I'd like to listen to a CD played on my PSX through my Open Baffle speakers only. Is this possible? I can't seem to find any info on how to turn off the front speakers when Zone 2 is enabled.

Thanks
post #1878 of 2352
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Originally Posted by greywarden View Post

Ok, I need some help.
I've got the Left, Right, Center speakers, and Subwoofer hooked up to my reciever.
I recently built a pair of open baffle speakers, Isaac build over on PE Techtalk, and I've hooked them up to the Zone 2 / Front High connection.
I also have my old Playstation 1 plugged into the "Game" RCA connections.
When I enable Zone 2, I can barely hear the Open baffle speakers if i put my ear up to them.
I'd like to listen to a CD played on my PSX through my Open Baffle speakers only. Is this possible? I can't seem to find any info on how to turn off the front speakers when Zone 2 is enabled.
Thanks

Press the zone 2 button at the top of the remote and then the vol button to turn up the volume on zone 2. To turn off zone 1 while listening to zone 2, press the receiver button in the "remote mode" section and then the power button. Zone 1 will turn off leaving zone 2 on. Always press the zone 2 button on top of the remote to make any adjustments to zone 2.
post #1879 of 2352
I have had the 709 for quite a while and am just now trying out the DLNA music playback. The problem I'm having is that it takes ~20 seconds to "initialize" the network when I bring it out of standby even with a wired network connection (says "initializing" in the display). I have the latest firmware. The other problem is that it launches right into Pandora playback when I bring it out of standby even when I was last playing from DLNA?
post #1880 of 2352
I turned off video processing,and the onkyo wont play from my set top box onto my pc monitor unless i put it back on,and now when i select Vcr/Dvr it shows the name dock on the display,

Please help,i did not change the name of my Vcr/dvr,and i dont have an Onkyo dock.

Thanks
post #1881 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Mr.Gadget View Post

I have had this HDMI issue on several occasions. (Updated firmware around March 2012). The problem last occurred on Monday of this week, previous time was about 45 days ago.
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Originally Posted by Category 5 View Post

The HDMI blacked out on mine again. Unplugging and replugging fixed it but my poor wife was stuck at home all night with no TV while I was at work. Do I have a lemon or is this really happening to everyone? Since a reset fixes things it seems like a software issue to me, but who knows. I definitely can't live with this behavior since my unit is plugged in behind the wall and it's a project just getting to the plug. Gonna try the breaker next time.
Past my return window and regretting it. Features and sound-wise I can't find another comparable receiver from another brand. Did they fix things in the newer model?
Sound off if you have the HDMI problems. I want to know if it's isolated or not.

I have had this problem since I bought mine back in February. It has finally just become clear to me that , at least on my receiver, the HDMI pasthorough and connectivity fail after I have used the USB connection for music like Pandora (wireless connection) or connecting my Ipod. I have done all of the udating of firmware, etc. and the problem has proven to be quite consistent. Then I must reset the receiver (which fixes the HDMI signal) and go through the whole audessey/settings ritual again. Either I have to just use it for movies and TV or spend alot of time doing my resets. I understand that this is not the most expensive receiver out there but it is not cheap either. I am totally frustrated by this. Has any of you contacted Onkyo about the problem and gotten a response? Apparently this is not an isolated problem. I will try to call them this week myself.
post #1882 of 2352
I've owned my 709 since March and haven't notived any major HDMI issues. Every once in a while if my components are not already powered on (Time Warner Cable box - Cisco Whole House DVR specifically) then the HDMI switch does not recognize the signal when the component is turned on afterwards. IE... I have to turn on the cable box before I switch the receivers input over otherwise the 709 cant read the HDMI signal. Doesn't seem like a huge deal to me. BUT with all the speculation and issues people are claiming to have it DOES make me hold my breathe every time it does it to me for fear of other more serious HDMI switching issues.

I should note that I purchased my 709 from Amazon brand new. I have not ever and most likely will never connect the receiver to the internet for fear of having issues. I have a feeling that MOST of the issues experienced are caused by faulty firmware and issues through connecting online. Easiest way to avoid that is to not connect it. Anybody else not ever connected their receiver to the internet?

Other than that... I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE my 709. The sound is amazing. The Audessey setup was effortless. The features and interface are amazing. I'm seriously considering purchasing another one for a seperate setup if I can find one used for a little less. I should note that my 709 replaced an SR607 that is now in another room with a different setup that I also love. If it had been 3D compatible I would not have replaced it.
post #1883 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Mr.Gadget View Post

I have had this HDMI issue on several occasions. (Updated firmware around March 2012). The problem last occurred on Monday of this week, previous time was about 45 days ago.
There is a new firmware update a couple of months ago. Maybe that will help you out.
Is there a way to CHECK THE HOURS of the receiver? I just picked up an open box from Best Buy to replace my 807.smile.gif
post #1884 of 2352
Hello, new 709 owner here. Can any owners confirm if their faceplate is aluminum like Onkyo list on their website for the 709....mine is plastic.
post #1885 of 2352
I just purchased one of these yesterday at Frys for $249.00. If anyone is in the San Diego area and is looking to buy one when I picked mine up yesterday they still had one in stock. That is the price on the internet. If you reserve it online and pick it up in store they will sell it for that price.
post #1886 of 2352
^^^^
Is your faceplate plastic or aluminum?
post #1887 of 2352
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Originally Posted by trolly View Post

^^^^
Is your faceplate plastic or aluminum?

Plastic.
post #1888 of 2352
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Originally Posted by Doctor P View Post

I have had this problem since I bought mine back in February. It has finally just become clear to me that , at least on my receiver, the HDMI pasthorough and connectivity fail after I have used the USB connection for music like Pandora (wireless connection) or connecting my Ipod. I have done all of the udating of firmware, etc. and the problem has proven to be quite consistent. Then I must reset the receiver (which fixes the HDMI signal) and go through the whole audessey/settings ritual again. Either I have to just use it for movies and TV or spend alot of time doing my resets. I understand that this is not the most expensive receiver out there but it is not cheap either. I am totally frustrated by this. Has any of you contacted Onkyo about the problem and gotten a response? Apparently this is not an isolated problem. I will try to call them this week myself.
I've had my 709 since November and I've never had an HDMI problem. I use a USB wireless connection for Pandora and the receiver switches back and forth from different sources without a hitch. I do have the latest firmware, but it worked fine with the old firmware that it came with.
post #1889 of 2352
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Originally Posted by zwc0442 View Post

I just purchased one of these yesterday at Frys for $249.00. If anyone is in the San Diego area and is looking to buy one when I picked mine up yesterday they still had one in stock. That is the price on the internet. If you reserve it online and pick it up in store they will sell it for that price.

I went to our local Fry's a few weeks ago but they had none in stock. It was $299 at that time and the sales person said the price was for a "demo" model but they had already sold it. I ended up picking one up at the Best Buy Magnolia store. It was a "demo" as well and was just a bit more.
post #1890 of 2352
They must have found a couple laying around since the remodel of the store is the only thing I can think of. I went into the demo room and they also have a 709 demo being used to power the room as well. When I picked mine up the person helping me said they had one more in back but it was an open box item.
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