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post #2071 of 2229
1/19/13 at 11:18pm
Hi guys,

I'm looking at this receiver online, but looking to definitively know if this will handle/upscale sub-480i signals for retro game consoles. Does anyone have an NES, Genesis, SNES, etc. hooked up to this? Quality is of less importance than the functionality. If not, would the 809?

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post #2072 of 2229
1/20/13 at 1:25am
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For more money I don't think I would get the 809 over the 717. It does have more watts per channel (more than my speakers can safely take) and the MultEQ XT system, but for a couple of reasons I don't like the 809 better:

-No connections in the front panel
-No Zone 3 (which I could use)
-My original budget was $400 and as is with the remanufactured 717 I'm looking to spend more than that. Spending even more for the 809 is not in my plans.

809 has Z3 pre-outs
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post #2073 of 2229
1/20/13 at 3:31am
Wao, that's one full front pannel and very well designed with the lid on the 809. The Z3 pre-outs, that meants I would need an amp for that Z3 right? Not bad, rather not need one for Z3 but atleast its there on the 809. Thanks gents.
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post #2074 of 2229
1/21/13 at 1:28pm
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Unfortunately I got the error message after it competed the 1st round.

Thanks to Audyssey's website support, I learned that I had incorrectly connected my surrounds in a 5.1 setup to the rear surround terminals instead of the (regular) surround terminals. Once I corrected that, it ran fine.
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post #2075 of 2229
1/24/13 at 4:23pm
Ended up buying this receiver. Buddy of mine had the same model and I was able to confirm retro consoles of all types work.

The only thing I cannot get to work is the PC port. I know of the setting that needs to be made to PC In. It is set to "-" like the manual states. However, what is not working is my Dreamcast via a VGA box. The box is functional; it hooks up and works to my current TV just fine. The issue is that my new TV will not have VGA in, so the receiver needs to pull its weight.

Is there another setting that I'm missing for the PC port to pick up this signal? I've tried the different modes (through, direct, etc.) and can't get anything. I have audio, so the system is certainly working. Does the receiver not pick up a 640x480 signal via VGA by chance? That's the only thing I can think of.
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post #2076 of 2229
1/24/13 at 7:48pm
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Originally Posted by Gamereviewgod View Post

Ended up buying this receiver. Buddy of mine had the same model and I was able to confirm retro consoles of all types work.

The only thing I cannot get to work is the PC port. I know of the setting that needs to be made to PC In. It is set to "-" like the manual states. However, what is not working is my Dreamcast via a VGA box. The box is functional; it hooks up and works to my current TV just fine. The issue is that my new TV will not have VGA in, so the receiver needs to pull its weight.

Is there another setting that I'm missing for the PC port to pick up this signal? I've tried the different modes (through, direct, etc.) and can't get anything. I have audio, so the system is certainly working. Does the receiver not pick up a 640x480 signal via VGA by chance? That's the only thing I can think of.

Have your tried setting the resolution of the pc input at 480 P?
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post #2077 of 2229
1/24/13 at 10:23pm
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Have your tried setting the resolution of the pc input at 480 P?

There is a setting I didn't see. How is that changed?
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post #2078 of 2229
1/25/13 at 4:25am
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Originally Posted by Gamereviewgod View Post

There is a setting I didn't see. How is that changed?
Page 44 of the manual:
■Resolution
Through:
Select this to pass video through the AV receiver at
the same resolution and with no conversion.
Auto:
Select this to have the AV receiver automatically
convert video at resolutions supported by your TV.
480p (480p/576p), 720p, 1080i, 1080p:
Select the desired output resolution.
1080p/24:
Select this for 1080p output at 24 frames per second.
4K Upscaling:
Select this for an output resolution four times that of
1080p, resulting in 3840 × 2160 pixels.
You can specify the output resolution for the HDMI OUT
MAIN and have the AV receiver upconvert the picture
resolution as necessary to match the resolution supported
by your TV.
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post #2079 of 2229
1/25/13 at 9:47am
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Page 44 of the manual:...
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Nope. Thought we were on to something. Part of me wonders if it's the TV. My new one arrives tomorrow, so I'll give it a test then and report back. Thanks for the help!
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post #2080 of 2229
1/27/13 at 8:27pm
Replaced my 706 with a 709 a couple months ago...I've just been trying to use the second HDMI output to a separate HDMI input on my TV so as to use day/night custom settings on the separate TV inputs. Initially, it seemed to be working fine, however, then some issues started (video freezing, but OSD working on STB, video freezing but audio continuing with BR player, etc.), now I'm not getting a signal at all from the second output from the receiver to the TV. I switched cables, HDMI inputs on the TV and sources, and have narrowed the problem down to output 2 on the receiver.

Anyone have any thoughts? I'd really like for this to work without needing a switch or to physically change inputs on the TV.
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post #2081 of 2229
1/28/13 at 4:03am
Contact Onkyo customer support.
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post #2082 of 2229
1/28/13 at 4:18pm
HDMI hand shaking can play up. Before contacting Onkyo Support, try leaving unplugged overnight, if no different, a full reset should restore things to normal.

Write your settings down first though.
Edited by wl1 - 1/28/13 at 10:19pm
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post #2083 of 2229
1/28/13 at 4:57pm
What is the HDMI "handshacking" ?
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post #2084 of 2229
1/28/13 at 5:03pm
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

HDMI handshaking can play up. Before contacting Onkyo Support, try leaving unplugged overnight, if no different, a full reset should restore things to normal.

Write your settings down first though.


The video dropout sure seems like a handshake issue, though it's weird that it's having no problem with one output. I'll try unplugging overnight.

Also, I did call Onkyo, they didn't have any ready answers but told me they would check out this set up in "the lab" and call me back.
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post #2085 of 2229
1/28/13 at 7:13pm
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Originally Posted by Gamereviewgod View Post

Nope. Thought we were on to something. Part of me wonders if it's the TV. My new one arrives tomorrow, so I'll give it a test then and report back. Thanks for the help!

Just an update on this that the new TV didn't have a magic fix. Figured it was a long shot. I may just kill this feature in my set-up.
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post #2086 of 2229
1/29/13 at 7:38am
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Originally Posted by Miami Guy View Post

What is the HDMI "handshacking" ?

A handshake is just the way two connected HDMI devices interact. Sometimes they work seamlessly, other times, not so much so, e.g., delays in finding AV signals, drop out, etc.
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post #2087 of 2229
2/3/13 at 4:15pm
I'm seeing tons of motion blur when running my satellite signal through the AVR scaler. I tried to run "through" mode, and the ticker on ESPN is almost unreadable. I have no problem letting my display do the deinterlacing, but this can't be okay; correct me if I'm wrong.



Also, still waiting on an answer from Onkyo on the second output issue - I need to call back.
Edited by Johanne - 2/4/13 at 10:20am
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post #2088 of 2229
2/4/13 at 8:41am
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I'm seeing tons of motion blur when running my satellite signal through the AVR scaler. I tried to run "through" mode, and the ticker on ESPN is almost unreadable. I have no problem letting my display do the upscaling, but this can't be okay; correct me if I'm wrong.



Also, still waiting on an answer from Onkyo on the second output issue - I need to call back.
Try pressing the VCR and Return button simultaneously, and using the Skip feature. Is it the same?
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post #2089 of 2229
2/4/13 at 10:20am
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

Try pressing the VCR and Return button simultaneously, and using the Skip feature. Is it the same?

Is this the function that allows one to bypass the processor? If so, I'll check it out, but I expect it would be the same, as I don't see it on "direct," which as I understand it also bypasses the processor.
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post #2090 of 2229
2/4/13 at 11:45am
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Is this the function that allows one to bypass the processor? If so, I'll check it out, but I expect it would be the same, as I don't see it on "direct," which as I understand it also bypasses the processor.
Direct still has the processor in the chain, it's just not meant to be doing anything. But the Skip turns it off.
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post #2091 of 2229
2/5/13 at 6:40am
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Originally Posted by wl1 View Post

Direct still has the processor in the chain, it's just not meant to be doing anything. But the Skip turns it off.

Really, I guess my point is that I don't feel I should have to turn off the processing to avoid severe motion blur during deinterlacing on this level of AVR. Sure, it's not a discrete video processor, but with an $800 MSRP, it should be able to handle basic tasks like deinterlacing.
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post #2092 of 2229
2/5/13 at 6:21pm
I finally set this receiver up and have a few questions.

1) I've noticed quite a bit more variation from source to source than my old receiver. While that is expected somewhat, I also notice a large difference between my HD and SD feeds on my comcast box, is this normal? Is there something I need to adjust? It never did this before.

2) Its a bit slow in switching inputs. I'm assuming this is b/c I'm using HDMI in/out and its handshaking at source changes, any way to stop this (eg leave output on all the time or something?)

Thanks!
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post #2093 of 2229
2/6/13 at 10:02pm
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Originally Posted by wsf0817 View Post

I finally set this receiver up and have a few questions.

1) I've noticed quite a bit more variation from source to source than my old receiver. While that is expected somewhat, I also notice a large difference between my HD and SD feeds on my comcast box, is this normal? Is there something I need to adjust? It never did this before.
Thanks!

I'm having a similar issue, although there have always been differences for me. From games to movies, I'm moving the volume about 40 either way. Seems drastic compared to my previous receivers.

I'm also having a nightmarish time with bass management. My previous Yamaha handled the odd room config like a champ, and no matter what I do with the Onkyo, it refuses to pick up on the LFE properly. All of my bass is being sent to the ceiling where as almost nothing is head in the seating position. You'll stand up and suddenly everything sounds like it's shaking, while in the chair you can barely hear it. I've tried multiple calibrations, different subs of different sizes, and more. Frustrating.
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post #2094 of 2229
2/7/13 at 7:28am
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Originally Posted by Gamereviewgod View Post

All of my bass is being sent to the ceiling where as almost nothing is head in the seating position. You'll stand up and suddenly everything sounds like it's shaking, while in the chair you can barely hear it. I've tried multiple calibrations, different subs of different sizes, and more. Frustrating.
This is a result of the shape of the room and the placement of the sub in the room. The receiver can't do much about this.
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post #2095 of 2229
2/7/13 at 10:14am
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Originally Posted by wsf0817 View Post

I finally set this receiver up and have a few questions.

1) I've noticed quite a bit more variation from source to source than my old receiver. While that is expected somewhat, I also notice a large difference between my HD and SD feeds on my comcast box, is this normal? Is there something I need to adjust? It never did this before.

2) Its a bit slow in switching inputs. I'm assuming this is b/c I'm using HDMI in/out and its handshaking at source changes, any way to stop this (eg leave output on all the time or something?)

Thanks!

(1) what sort of difference/variation?

(2) what do you consider slow? I have two sources, PS3 and STB, and it can't take any more than 3 seconds to switch between them.
Edited by Johanne - 2/7/13 at 1:52pm
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post #2096 of 2229
2/7/13 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by Johanne View Post

Replaced my 706 with a 709 a couple months ago...I've just been trying to use the second HDMI output to a separate HDMI input on my TV so as to use day/night custom settings on the separate TV inputs. Initially, it seemed to be working fine, however, then some issues started (video freezing, but OSD working on STB, video freezing but audio continuing with BR player, etc.), now I'm not getting a signal at all from the second output from the receiver to the TV. I switched cables, HDMI inputs on the TV and sources, and have narrowed the problem down to output 2 on the receiver.

Anyone have any thoughts? I'd really like for this to work without needing a switch or to physically change inputs on the TV.


Just to follow up, I did discover what the issue here was. I had been trying to use the "both" setting for monitor out. For whatever reason, though, the AVR doesn't like sending the A/V signal to both inputs when only one is active. So, the sub output eventually stops sending a signal. Instead, what I needed to do was to switch on the AVR setup menu between "sub" and "main "as I use each. One extra step, but a lot better than changing HDMI inputs.

Bottom line: if you want to use both HDMI outs to the same display (for purposes of having 2 separate custom settings, in my case), you have to select "main" or "sub" each time based on which input/settings you want to use and then change the input on the display.
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post #2097 of 2229
2/7/13 at 8:44pm
Need some help frown.gif

So I have an 709 with the latest firmware 7/12, I just tried to run audyssey and something is very wrong. With the Subwoofer on or off, it automatically reads 94db. I adjusted manually via a rat shack spl meter to 75db from listening position, and attempted to move forward with calibration. I get to front left and it plays the tone and goes to speaker detect error. I retry it goes through to the fl c then to the right, then speaker detect error again. Any ideas of what could be causing this? The receiver has been flawless so far and I calibrated back in July fine after the firmware update. Could this just be a busted Mic?
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post #2098 of 2229
2/8/13 at 3:55am
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Originally Posted by Johanne View Post

(1) what sort of difference/variation?

Volume? Not sure how to quantify, but on SD channels I'll listen to it in the 30s and on HD, in the 50s.
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(2) what do you consider slow? I have two sources, PS3 and STB, and it can't take any more than 3 seconds to switch between them.

Probably 3-5 seconds. Its not a lifetime, I just didn't know if there was a setting that would make it quicker. It feels like it goes "oh... new input.... ok, where's the off switch.... found it.... ok... what new input?.... oh yea.... where's that switch for on?.... ok...there it is" its just awkward.
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post #2099 of 2229
2/8/13 at 7:23am
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Originally Posted by wsf0817 View Post

Volume? Not sure how to quantify, but on SD channels I'll listen to it in the 30s and on HD, in the 50s.
Probably 3-5 seconds. Its not a lifetime, I just didn't know if there was a setting that would make it quicker. It feels like it goes "oh... new input.... ok, where's the off switch.... found it.... ok... what new input?.... oh yea.... where's that switch for on?.... ok...there it is" its just awkward.

For the volume issue, try using the Dynamic Volume feature; for the source switching, that's normal in my experience.
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post #2100 of 2229
2/9/13 at 11:14am
Another issue.

I just hooked up my HTPC, which has HDMI output. I used to have it connected directly to the TV (same input) but now its running through the ONkyo.

For some reason the image isn't filling the whole screen. The computer detects that it is connected to the onkyo, and I can't seem to adjust the screen size via the computer. Any ideas?
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