2011 Mitsubishi 3D DLP Owners Thread (740/840 series) - Page 41

Originally Posted by Savatage316

Im not sure man, it just seems though that you bought this set and dont have any of the pieces to compelte the puzzle that makes it dazzle. Not having HD cable, not having blu ray, not having HDMI hookups....all these things are what makes the new tvs what they are and im just sayin, no wonder youre not feeling the tv.

Its like buying the body of a ferrari but not having the engine that is meant to go with it and being disappointed.

You gotta get the right devices and connections and the tv im sure will blow you away.

Originally Posted by Savatage316

I understand though that in the past there were ways to maybe cut some corners not anymore my man. Blu Ray, HD cable...these things are imho automatic when owning some of the new sets. I couldnt imagine anything less, even a dvd player that so called upconverts...its just not even in the same ballpark as a BD player, not even in the same ballpark.

If you upgrade everything else, youre going to really see the difference.

Originally Posted by Dee L. Peabody

I can't argue most of your points... I do have a 2011 model home receiver (Yamaha) so that piece is the right kind for this TV. I have a DVD player with 1080p upconversion. I was good with the movie reproduction, although, my wife noticed no difference between the DLP and CRT picture.

The strobe effect is something alarming and puzzling. I saw a split screen where they were showing Miami on one screen and the Lakers on the other. The Miami game had live action on the split screen and that was flickering...the Laker game was in time out and didn't flicker when the Heat game did. I don't think that has anything to do with the pieces I have in play.

I'm going to buy a blu-ray and I might go HD satellite. Not sure.

Isn't it refreshing to see a guy not gush over an 82" TV?

Originally Posted by Dee L. Peabody

Once I get the "pieces" I'll be sure to report back to you. I hope you're right.

BTW, my wife thinks the strobe effect on basketball games is people taking pictures. I don't think so, or people are taking a whole lot of pictures.

Originally Posted by Witchboard

I've double checked the manual and it does not indicates specifically where the IR emitter is located. I'm presuming it's on the control panel, but I do not see the typical window associated with IR. Can anyone confirm?

Originally Posted by Witchboard

I thought this was the first year the emitter was internal. I thought all previous years you had to have an external emitter. I'm not sure. Likely my problem is the glasses are just a little off as they are not Mitsus.

Originally Posted by gtgray

I have the 92" and for Live TV I am running native resolutions outs of a Tivo HD and doing all the processing in DVDO DUO video processor. The set is calibrated and the set and any reasonable content looks fabulous. I marvel at how much better it is than my 2009 82".. because of the Video Processor I have some extra tricks up my sleve and the whole thing is just plain WOW!

Originally Posted by GEP

The LG brand glasses most likely are not compatible with the TV's internal emitter. The LG brand active shutter glasses are not "universal" which means that they are not compatible with all of the different IR emitter protocols.

The Mitsubishi internal emitter protocol is different than the LG emitter protocol.

The Xpand X-103 universal active shutter glasses are compatible with the Mitusbishi but under the Panasonic setting. The Xpand 3DG-X103 made for Mitsubishi TVs are compatible without any special setting. Panasonic glasses are compatible. Any glasses made to be compatible with Panasonic TVs are compatible. However since LG uses a different protocol than Panasonic, LG glasses most likely are not.

Originally Posted by gtgray

If you are you running an 82" inch display and you are not watching an HD soure you are missing most of what the TV can do. Blu-Ray will make that obvious. I have the 92" and for Live TV I am running native resolutions outs of a Tivo HD and doing all the processing in DVDO DUO video processor. The set is calibrated and the set and any reasonable content looks fabulous. I marvel at how much better it is than my 2009 82".. because of the Video Processor I have some extra tricks up my sleve and the whole thing is just plain WOW!

Low stands my friends, lamps on bright, calibrated sets and very good sources are what makes the 82" and 92" sets display the picture they are capable of. The clear models are so sharp with a good source it will knock you out. I am not big on using the internal tuner or video processing. It might be better than in the past, but I just always send 1080P to my big sets.

Originally Posted by garry01

To gtgreg - You recently posted that you had your TV calibrated. If it is not to much trouble, please post your settings. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Witchboard

Thanks for the clarification. I'll pick up a set of X103 and make sure that it's not an issue with the TV, then resell the LGs I guess. Shame as the LG glasses are really comfortable.

Originally Posted by DavidMP

Plus One! I'd love to see the settings from a calibrated TV. Thanks

Originally Posted by mthomas47

I love your enthusiasm for this set! It vindicates my own reaction to the new big displays, particularly with the clear screen, and the Duo makes it all even better. You did mean lamp setting on Natural rather than Bright, didn't you?

Originally Posted by bsoko2

So did I, that's why I paid to have it done. Our settings might not be for your room as lighting is different from room to room (might be close though). So lay out the green and have a ISF calibrator come in and do it for you. Or, you can do it yourself with the Spears & Munsil HD BD disc. You can calibrate the TV via the BD player with it. The calibrator guy used this same disc to do my TV. You just won't know if the color temp is dead on for 6500k. Those that bought a Oppo BD player, this disc comes free in the box. Now this doesn't complete the full calibration. You have a day setting and a night setting as well as a setting for HD TV as well as the BD player. A calibration guy will set all of this up on your TV. Cost with travel mileage of 126 miles round trip from the shop to my home, plus 3 hours of time in my home = $530. Was it worth the $$$$$, for me? Yes makes buying this big of a TV in the first place a worth while cost.

Originally Posted by import2nr

Hey What exactly does the DVDO DUO do? Are there different versions or models of it? Is there a section or thread dedicated to video processors? I am new to video processors and if there is a better quality picture to be had then I want in. lol

Originally Posted by gtgray

The DVDO DUO is first a swticher it has a bunch imputs and outputs.. 8 HDMI ports as a starter. It also is a scaler and deinterlacer. It converts interlaced and lower resolution video into 1080P or the output resolution of your choice with very high quality. It also has very hiqh quality zoom and stretch etc.

It also has a complete CMS ( Color Management System) Similar in some ways to what Advanced Mode offer, but with much more accurate control. It is also a pattern generator and has built in patterns similar to something like Digital Video Essentials. So it allows you calibrate much more accurate than the buit in controls. The graycale controls in the DUO allow you set 10 points of grayscale and gamma independently of each other. The built in control for grayscale is only a two point system, with some gamma presets to chose from. Color control on the DUO is also very much more precise than the Advance modes.

But what makes it almost magical is that the calibration software from either Chromapure or Calman will automatically calibrate the TV through the DVDO DUOto a level comparable to a good pro calibrator. On the DUO you plug in the meter to the PC, plug in the USB cable to the serial port on the DUO, aim the meter at the TV and select autocalibrate. 20 minutes later you have a full blown calibration inlcuding charts and reporting with no muss, no fuss and no real participation. Your job is basically to put the meter on the tripod or whatever, plug in the cables and let her rip.

Sure you can had tweak a bit after that, but really for the most part you are not going to improve it much beyond what the DUO and Chrompure do.

The DUO is about a grand. I paid $895 for mine a couple of years. A decent meter is $250 and probably less than $500 for software. There are always bundles and deals.

Originally Posted by innatetech

My remaining concerns in terms of a first day-shake down have to do with overscan and geometry.

I have a rather dramatic amount of overscan on this display at 1920x1080--a large part of the Myth home screen is being cut off on the left. I tried altering the scaling/offset within Myth, but the TV seems to be compensating somehow, leaving me in the same position.

Most basically, do other owners experience a rather dramatic amount of overscan on this display? Secondly, should the overscan be off-center? When the HTPC goes into screensaver, the spinning wireframe it displays is noticeably off-center to the left, and more of the picture is lost on that side--the overscan is skewed. Is this normal?

Originally Posted by gtgray

All you can do with Spears and Munsil is basic stuff... brightness, contrast, sharpness and check for clipping.

You can not calibrate grayscale and or color gamut using Spears and Musil. You will need a meter, a PC and software and a pattern source.. While You can select a gammain advanced mode the factory gamma curves traditionally are not that flat or accurate.

Originally Posted by Savatage316

Any places that you guys feel has the best and most frequent deals?

Originally Posted by enthuzist

Has anyone had Geek Squad do a calibration on the 840's? BB is offering me a a few free ones with a 92840 purchase.

Originally Posted by lujan

I had them do one on my 73833 but not for my 82740 yet as they said I should have 200 hours before doing a calibration. I liked the picture a lot after the 73833 calibration. As long as it meets ISF requirements, I don't think you need to pay $500 + for a calibration.