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post #1231 of 3948
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Originally Posted by innatetech View Post

So, I was able to get the screen filled and looking normal by starting from scratch: resetting the Mits to factory, wiping the MythTV appearance settings, and blowing away my xorg.conf. I adjusted Myth's display manually and it looks like scaling to 1830x1030 with about 40 pixels right horizontal offset, and 20 pixels down vertical offset fills the frame just about right. Scaled video through VDPAU looks fine, so I am happy.

Although I would appreciate it if someone more experienced could tell me whether or not the skew of the overscan is normal before I get too comfortable....

The Service Menu has controls for vertical and horizontal position. It has a factory setting for the specific display but you can change it up and down, left and right.
post #1232 of 3948
I recently purchased the WD82740 but have had some issues. The first one I had to send back because there were black dots on the screen on the inside and could not be wiped off. Mitsubishi was very easy to deal with and sent out a new one ASAP. I just got the new one yesterday and once I plugged it in I noticed that it smelled like electronics burning. Is this normal? The first one I got did not smell. Also I thought I heard a fan turn on and thought that it really lowed but I don't here it anymore. Is there more than the one fan in the back?

Also I do not know if it is related but when I have the color temperature to low (I think that the term) the reds flicker in the right hand top corner. I noticed this while browsing Netflix on the Xbox and the red back ground was flickering slightly. If I switch color the temperature to cool the flickering goes away.
The TV has only been on for maybe 4 hours now. Are there issues just the tv breaking in or should I asked for a replacement.

Thanks
post #1233 of 3948
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Originally Posted by garthed View Post

I recently purchased the WD82740 but have had some issues. The first one I had to send back because there were black dots on the screen on the inside and could not be wiped off. Mitsubishi was very easy to deal with and sent out a new one ASAP. I just got the new one yesterday and once I plugged it in I noticed that it smelled like electronics burning. Is this normal? The first one I got did not smell. Also I thought I heard a fan turn on and thought that it really lowed but I don't here it anymore. Is there more than the one fan in the back?

Also I do not know if it is related but when I have the color temperature to low (I think that the term) the reds flicker in the right hand top corner. I noticed this while browsing Netflix on the Xbox and the red back ground was flickering slightly. If I switch color the temperature to cool the flickering goes away.
The TV has only been on for maybe 4 hours now. Are there issues just the tv breaking in or should I asked for a replacement.

Thanks

do you only see this with Netflix on the XBOX? Download the ASV HD709 disc and run it on a Blu-Ray player. It has full red screens and various test patterns. If you still have red flickering in the corner like that it is probably an issue with the light engine. I suspect it is something with the Xbox and Netflix.
post #1234 of 3948
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Originally Posted by enthuzist View Post

Has anyone had Geek Squad do a calibration on the 840's? BB is offering me a a few free ones with a 92840 purchase.

If BB's price for the 92840 is competitive and they are just offering some free calibrations as an additional incentive or special promotion, I don't see what you can lose. I think most of those dealers will price-match, so some free calibrations could certainly get you headed in the right direction. And you could always go in a different calibration direction down the road. If they are inflating the purchase price in order to offer you "free" calibrations, then that might not be as good a deal depending on the number and quality of the calibrations.
post #1235 of 3948
Here are my calibrated settings for my WD82840. Try them out and see how they work for you.

Oppo 93 BD player, settings for movies

ADV2 for Dark Room – changes made in menu

Edge off
Video noise off
Bright 40
Contrast 54
Color 30
Tint 31
Sharpness 26
Gamma 2.2
Red High 1006
Green 1023
Blue High 959
Red Low 4
Green 0
Blue Low 3

ADV1 for Day Room – Use all the ADV2 settings and change these settings for daylight viewing.

Bright 50
Contrast 63
Color 32
Gamma 2.0


Changes made to SC-57 Receiver for TV viewing. Video up scaling is turned on for Magnavox cable box only. Turned off for Oppo player.

Video Parameter settings on remote:

Video Conv on
Res 1080p
PCinema on
BNR +3
MNR +5
Bright -3
Contrast -5
Chroma +2


Good luck with these settings and happy viewing.

Bill
post #1236 of 3948
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Originally Posted by mthomas47 View Post

If BB's price for the 92840 is competitive and they are just offering some free calibrations as an additional incentive or special promotion, I don't see what you can lose. I think most of those dealers will price-match, so some free calibrations could certainly get you headed in the right direction. And you could always go in a different calibration direction down the road. If they are inflating the purchase price in order to offer you "free" calibrations, then that might not be as good a deal depending on the number and quality of the calibrations.

I see what you are saying and the calibration was an incentive due to doing a lot of corporate business with them. However it appears that it isn't a worthy incentive from what others are posting. I like the idea of getting everything they will test and do in writing prior to any commitment.
post #1237 of 3948
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Originally Posted by bsoko2 View Post

Here are my calibrated settings for my WD82840. Try them out and see how they work for you.

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Good luck with these settings and happy viewing.

Bill

Thanks! My TV doesn't have enough hours for a real calibration yet, but I used your dark room settings and do see an improvement.
David
post #1238 of 3948
Trying to decide if a 92 inch will fit in my space. The tv will be placed as deep into a corner as possible. I looked at the specifications page but cannot determine the width of the rear of the tv so that I will be able to measure how far the tv will have to sit into the room to accommodate the 82 inch front width. It appears to be about the same width as the stand which is 40.2 inches. Can anyone give me the width of the rear of the set?
post #1239 of 3948
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Originally Posted by DocHollywood View Post

Trying to decide if a 92 inch will fit in my space. The tv will be placed as deep into a corner as possible. I looked at the specifications page but cannot determine the width of the rear of the tv so that I will be able to measure how far the tv will have to sit into the room to accommodate the 82 inch front width. It appears to be about the same width as the stand which is 40.2 inches. Can anyone give me the width of the rear of the set?

The back of the set is rounded, which makes it pretty hard to measure accurately, but I tried, and I would allow for a width of 45"-46" just in case. If you set it all the way into the corner, I think you would be out about 21"-22" from the corner. Mine is also in a corner, although further out than that. The good news is that your viewing distance can be surprisingly close (I am a bit inside the THX distance of 1.2 x diagonal) as long as you don't intend to watch much SD. 480i and 480p aren't so good up close on such a large and clear display, unless you are doing some additional video processing. It is an outstanding set.
post #1240 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Dee L. Peabody View Post

This isn't an HOA issue at all. It's a home warranty issue. The warranty given on the house states the roof warranty is voided if a satellite dish is affixed to it. That leaves a pole, or the chimney as my options. The DirecTV guy told me the HD dish couldn't be bolted to my chimney due to it's weight. I might call Dish and see if they can do it.

Oh, and I realize the worst possible connection is the 480i through the antenna. I use my receiver (when it isn't powering itself off) to upconvert the signal to 1080i. That doesn't look too bad...but I can't clearly make out the scrawl on ESPN. You would think that at 1080i the display could clearly produce the scrawl but it does a very poor job of it. I would be hopeful 1080p would be much better.

Your Dish installer should do it. I refused to let them put a dish on my roof. They attached it to the eaves of my house instead.

Mits DLP's don't upscale well. Feeding even a 52" DLP a SD signal is a waste of time. If you have SD sources (DVD, satellite, etc.) feed it via an external scaler of some kind. However, these sets shine with good HD sources like Blu-Ray, HD DVD, Xbox/PS3 games and even OTA.
post #1241 of 3948
Just ordered the 82740 from Best Buy.com. Discounted $1264 off their normal price with free shipping and 36 months zero interest. I was going to wait for the Sharp 80" with 3D but who knows when or how much it will be. What type and how many glasses come with the set?
Rick
post #1242 of 3948
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Originally Posted by stebrock View Post

Just ordered the 82740 from Best Buy.com. Discounted $1264 off their normal price with free shipping and 36 months zero interest. I was going to wait for the Sharp 80" with 3D but who knows when or how much it will be. What type and how many glasses come with the set?
Rick

Glasses are separate.

You can buy the Mitsubishi branded XpanD 3DG-X103s http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/accessory/3DG-X103, XpanD X-103s http://www.amazon.com/Xpand-X103-Uni.../dp/B00462RMS6, X-104s http://www.amazon.com/XPAND-X104LX1-.../dp/B0062G4728, or several other brands and off-brands.
post #1243 of 3948
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Originally Posted by stebrock View Post

Just ordered the 82740 from Best Buy.com. Discounted $1264 off their normal price with free shipping and 36 months zero interest. I was going to wait for the Sharp 80" with 3D but who knows when or how much it will be. What type and how many glasses come with the set?
Rick

If purchased in the store, then they would have gladly included the glasses.
post #1244 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

Glasses are separate.

You can buy the Mitsubishi branded XpanD 3DG-X103s http://www.mitsubishi-tv.com/accessory/3DG-X103, XpanD X-103s http://www.amazon.com/Xpand-X103-Uni.../dp/B00462RMS6, X-104s http://www.amazon.com/XPAND-X104LX1-.../dp/B0062G4728, or several other brands and off-brands.

Thanks for the info... Purchasing online was my only option.
post #1245 of 3948
STEBROCK,
Do not overpay for the Mitsubishi glasses,Xpand etc.
Everyone please check out these 3D Glasses... I've owned the WD-73740 for the past 3 months,finally bit the bullet with the 3d glasses after researching and price swapping for two months. These glasses are amazing in both quality and definitely price. You can even pick your own color choice as well as adult and children sizes. If you go to their website, there are lots of reviews and product info to be found. I called their phone# and actually talked to their CEO Steve McArthur. This guy walked me through any and all questions I had about 3D Technology, and boy did I have a lot of questions! He even followed up with emails to make sure the products were to my satisfaction. I initially did not want to mess with the external emitter myself, but after checking with several other 3D companies products, I came back to these guys. You will not be disappointed...

http://www.dimensionaloptics.com/default.aspx
post #1246 of 3948
Whats the lowest price you guys have seen the 82s for so far?
post #1247 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Savatage316 View Post

Whats the lowest price you guys have seen the 82s for so far?

I saw the 82740 for $1,699 which is $100.00 less than I paid for mine from Paul's TV via Amazon. If you don't get it directly from Amazon, they will not do the 30-day price match guarantee as I found out. Paul's could not do it as well because they didn't take payment. I was stuck between a rock and a hard place but I still got a great deal.
post #1248 of 3948
Status Update:

Got my TV... It definitely looks amazing, massive as can be. I was concerned at first even though the stand supposedly can hold the weight because I swore I could hear creaking and noise every now and then and could imagine the whole thing collapsing, even had a nightmare about it. I guess it's like having an indestructible skateboard and putting an elephant on it.... it it going to look like that skateboard will collapse at any time because that elephant ain't meant to be on a skateboard,.... but whatever. Eventually will have to do something about the stand because there is definitely a gap of about 6 inches I don't need between the top and the 2nd shelf, so a custom stand could get me down quite a few inches i am certain.

I still have a lot to set up, been busy with work, and in some way going backwards, impressed with the obvious things, disappointed with some others. So far have been completely unable to get the 3D working on my PC. Using an Nvidea card, had older Optima glasses (6 of them on the 72" with a mit converter which sold with 72"). When the old glasses didn't want to work (tried using TotalMediaTheatre 5 I think it's called... not home at moment) on 3D bluray iso it would not work. Bought the Universal X103 talked about here and used panasonic setting, still won't work though. Haven't set up gaming systems yet, will have to set them up and try the 3D on the PS3 to see if it works there. Shouldn't be this difficult from what I've read here I would think though...

Had other issues holding me back, all wireless RF devices stopped working on my home theater when transferring, but that wasn't the TV fault, still it is causing a problem in setting things up when having to use wires on the HTPC for keyboard and mouse (UGH!). It's some kind of USB issue and spent all weekend trying to figure it out.

Also, the overscan issue being still here is a bit disappointing as it definitely effected the 3D stuff on the PC on the 2007 model and I was hoping to not have that issue in 2012. Can't use the TV's soundbar as a center speaker on my receiver like i was hoping either; but other than these few nitpicks, it is massive and football looks great on it...

P.S. Also, to the guy mentioning earlier about the satelite and the roof issue, he can aslo possibly buy an HD antennae from Amazon, indoor one even, to get local stations nearby in HD quality. I find that local over the air HD channels come in in higher quality than what you pull through the cable or satellite anyways if the signal is strong (unless a plane goes by)... just a though, cheap, and pristine quality picture if near some signals locally. For me ABC, FOX, NBC... all WAY better looking from my antennae than from my HD cable box
post #1249 of 3948
Can it play movies stored on USB flash or hard drives?
Thanks,
post #1250 of 3948
Well, I got my 73840 Sunday and am really impressed with the bluray quality but not with daily TV watching. I have Dish and it is 1080i, some HD channels are ok and others are meh. Standard def is unwatchable for the most part. I'm sitting about 9 1/2ft away. Haven't done much adjusting other than natural or bright and high or low color temperature.

Would sitting further away help? Would have to rearrange entire room to do it but am willing if it makes it better.
Does it get better as the bulb gets some hours on it?
How long before I should try calibration?
Anybody else start like this but it got better later?

Help!!

Edit: Thinking maybe it could be the receiver. It was replaced last thursday and I'm having trouble with it freezing and rebooting. Just throwing that out there!
post #1251 of 3948
standard def streams always look horrible on most HD sets, remember you're taking a low resolution image and enlarging it. garbage in /garbage out. you'll notice a huge jump while watching HD content or bluray, i would stay away from standard def as much as possible on a 73" set, even after calibration on my friend's set you couldn't bear to watch ANYTHING in standard def even 20 feet away. don't punish your eyes, they deserve better than that and so does your TV
post #1252 of 3948
You guys still getting white flashes on the 3D mode? Anyway to fix this?

Also is there a howto for newbies on the various 3d settings on the 740 series? Thanks!
post #1253 of 3948
Thank you, Invarcade... I happen to own a very nice HD indoor antenna that I bought to use with my old 57" but never really used it much. I've been meaning to screw it in and see the difference. That is why I was disappointed I didn't have two antenna inputs on this set. I'll get it all set up for this Saturday's NFL games.

Also, I'm still seeing flashes (strobe effect) on ALL basketball games...even ESPN basketball promos. So strange.

I did have a question about the importance of surge protectors and DLP televisions. I was told buy a TV sales guy, who ironically was not trying to sell me a surge protector, that the number one thing you could do to prolong your DLP's life was a high quality surge protector. Sound advice?

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Originally Posted by Invarcade View Post

Status Update:

P.S. Also, to the guy mentioning earlier about the satelite and the roof issue, he can aslo possibly buy an HD antennae from Amazon, indoor one even, to get local stations nearby in HD quality. I find that local over the air HD channels come in in higher quality than what you pull through the cable or satellite anyways if the signal is strong (unless a plane goes by)... just a though, cheap, and pristine quality picture if near some signals locally. For me ABC, FOX, NBC... all WAY better looking from my antennae than from my HD cable box
post #1254 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Hero76 View Post

standard def streams always look horrible on most HD sets, remember you're taking a low resolution image and enlarging it. garbage in /garbage out. you'll notice a huge jump while watching HD content or bluray, i would stay away from standard def as much as possible on a 73" set, even after calibration on my friend's set you couldn't bear to watch ANYTHING in standard def even 20 feet away. don't punish your eyes, they deserve better than that and so does your TV

Thanks Hero76,
I should have clarified that a few of the OK channels are HD. Some HD look like SD. Was wondering too if a bad hdmi cable could cause this. After work tonight I will swap out cable and receiver to see if that helps any.

I read this whole thread and any reviews on these displays and for the most part they are very positive. So it makes me think my other equipment is faulty since blurays look outstanding.
post #1255 of 3948
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Originally Posted by redonly View Post

Thanks Hero76,
I should have clarified that a few of the OK channels are HD. Some HD look like SD. Was wondering too if a bad hdmi cable could cause this. After work tonight I will swap out cable and receiver to see if that helps any.

I read this whole thread and any reviews on these displays and for the most part they are very positive. So it makes me think my other equipment is faulty since blurays look outstanding.

One thing to check is on your satelite box, make sure it is set to 1080i. My cable box would switch back down to 480i when I would switch from blu-ray to SAT/CABLE on my receiver. Just something to check.

Ahhh, just remembered. I turned off Auto HDMI on the receiver to keep it from doing that.
post #1256 of 3948
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Originally Posted by redonly View Post

Thanks Hero76,
I should have clarified that a few of the OK channels are HD. Some HD look like SD. Was wondering too if a bad hdmi cable could cause this. After work tonight I will swap out cable and receiver to see if that helps any.

It could simply be compression on some of your HD channels. I don't know about satellite, but Comcast compresses HD channels, especially the less popular ones. FiOS doesn't, and I noticed a difference when we switched a few years ago.
post #1257 of 3948
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Originally Posted by redonly View Post

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Does it get better as the bulb gets some hours on it?
How long before I should try calibration?
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I think my 82740 video has gotten better with more hours of bulb use. I was told to wait until 200 hours before calibration and I'm at about 130 so not too much longer now.
post #1258 of 3948
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Originally Posted by redonly View Post

Well, I got my 73840 Sunday and am really impressed with the bluray quality but not with daily TV watching. I have Dish and it is 1080i, some HD channels are ok and others are meh. Standard def is unwatchable for the most part. I'm sitting about 9 1/2ft away. Haven't done much adjusting other than natural or bright and high or low color temperature.

Would sitting further away help? Would have to rearrange entire room to do it but am willing if it makes it better.
Does it get better as the bulb gets some hours on it?
How long before I should try calibration?
Anybody else start like this but it got better later?

Help!!

Edit: Thinking maybe it could be the receiver. It was replaced last thursday and I'm having trouble with it freezing and rebooting. Just throwing that out there!

It sounds as if you have two things you can check: your receiver and your HDMI cables. I can't speak to the quality of the Dish broadcasts, but some of the DirecTV broadcasts (480p) aren't as bad as SD in general used to be. Your set will definitely produce a better picture in both HD and SD as you get some hours on it. And getting your settings more in the ballpark will help even with SD. I did try moving further back at first, and then was gradually able to move closer again. I think your set will get better and your eyes will gradually adjust a little more to SD over a period of a couple of weeks, or so. That eye adjustment business might not be true for everyone, but it seems to be true for mine. Try also going only from SD to HD and not the other way around when you watch. That idea is consistent with the theory that your eyes will adjust a little to a lower quality picture. All SD looks really bad to me after watching HD for a little while, but not as bad if I watch it first.
post #1259 of 3948
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Originally Posted by redonly View Post

Edit: Thinking maybe it could be the receiver. It was replaced last thursday and I'm having trouble with it freezing and rebooting. Just throwing that out there!

I suspect this is the problem. I have the 73740 and DishNet. All the HD channels are fine and the few SD channels I watch are OK. I do run the DishNet HDMI output through my Pioneer Elite receiver's scaler before going to the Mits. So I don't know what picture quality I would have going directly from the DishNet receiver to the TV. But, I believe the Pioneer's scaler does not alter the 1080I output from DishNet. I can confirm that the Mits has very nice picture quality when fed a signal from a properly functioning DishNet receiver.
post #1260 of 3948
My dish hd feeds look pretty good in general, no complaints.
The new box may have issues redonly.
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