2011 Mitsubishi 3D DLP Owners Thread (740/840 series) - Page 91

Why is it people are continuing to purchase these XpanD X103's for $100.00 dollars?
These http://www.dimensionaloptics.com/Mitsubishi.aspx glasses are awesome. I found
this company after searching around for several weeks on the internet and in local stores. Been using them for several months-awesome.
They are re-chargeble,come in different styles (colors) and have sizes for adults as well as kids. Oh yeah, they"re also half the price!
I initially called their number to discuss the whole 3-d process with several questions about which glasses with which set?,do I need an emitter? etc.etc.. If you actually to call the company, you'll most likely talk directly to their CEO Steve.
Fellow Mits owners, save your money. Buy more 3-d discs and even twice the number of glasses. Check these guy's out !!!

Sounds like it was meant to be. Go for it!

I had issues with these glasses. I still own a pair but prefer the X103's.

Are the built in speakers any good for a center channel?

the Xpand X103's list for $100, but usually sell for half that. and these - http://amzn.com/B004WD1GPE - are rechargeable and sell for eleven bucks a pair less than the ones from dimensionaloptics - oh and no shipping or tax. in fact, i think i'll buy myself a few pairs now, it's time i gave 3d a try on the new tv.

So I have been putting it off forever but got online at Paul's TV (and a few other websites) and got on their online chat "help". I was simply asking about any deals or potential "military" discounts they may offer. Long story short the guy said to call him to discuss so I went out on a limb to talk to him. He ended up hooking me for $2700 With "white glove" delivery. I tried to get him to $2650 but I am an awful negotiator. In the end I paid 120$ for tax which kind of sucks, since that made the total $2820, and you can get it on Amazon for about $2860 right now. He threw in two pairs of Mitsubishi glasses to sweeten the deal so that was cool, even though I am not big on 3D now I have an excuse to try it out. I am happy because I can finally stop procrastinating the TV situation in the new house. I had heard a lot of good things about Paul's, but was pretty impressed with how personable the guy was...didn't force me into the purchase or try to sell me things I did not need, and was just easy to work with all around.

With all that said, I am pretty excited about this! I have seen the very few calibration posts in this thread, are there any others out there? I know others have asked...but I was just trying to get ready to make sure I have everything taken care of when it comes.

I noticed that the new 842 does not have the contrast screen. Is this a plus...or minus?
Also, I would like to have someone comment on how good the "blacks" are on the 840. At 65 I really do not know if my eyes can actually see the difference(s).
My tv is located in my basement where it is totally dark.

Thanks for you insight(s).

I'm interested in the answers for these questions as well, and would also like to know how much the blacks have improved on the 840/842 compared to my almost 6 year old 732. Right now I'm debating on if I want to stick with DLP or move to a 65" Panasonic ST50 plasma. I'm still happy with my 732. Now that Mitsubishi doesn't make smaller that 73" sets I'm also wondering if that might not be too larger for my living room.

hrmm.... only question would be, how old are your kids? There are warnings out there saying children 7yrs and younger shouldn't be watching 3D, cause it messes with their eye development.

Not sure what the exact age recommendation is, since both my kids are both well under it... so it wasn't something I had to look into much. But something to research if your children are in that general age range.

That said, it wouldn't keep me from getting the TV. Just hide the 3D glasses.

My kids are 8, 5, 4, and ten months, so I may need to research that issue. It may be a moot point, as my wife caught my oldest and me taking measurements in the basement. When my daughter told her that we were measuring for the new TV, she made some reference to us "being done" if I made that purchase.

And remind her what its like to raise an 8,5,4, and 10 month old on just child support. Smack her on the ass and tell her "nice bluff, but the TV is coming"...

Worked for me for the last 14-15 years now. TV, computer, and surround sound came, she walked out the door. I have raised the child, have the house, TV, Surround Sound, computer. etc... Oh I miss the nagging. lol

Most older women understand men need there man cave. This gen doesn't. Get the TV.

Amen brother, amen. Get the TV. You'll be happy. The kids will be happy. If you can afford it she should be happy that y'all are happy.

ok...i am trying my hardest to help some of you people out, but i can't for the life of me figure out what is so difficult - fyi, i never mentioned going thru the paul's tv website nor the fry's website to see the price - the only link i have provided is a link to a scan of fry's print ad:

1. here is the ACTUAL AD page from frys.com: http://www.frys.com/ads/page6

2. click the ad to open it, scroll down to the 3rd row of products being advertised - the 4th ad in that row is for a "major name brand" 80" tv being advertised for $1299.

3. i mentioned previously that i verified in the store, with my own eyes, that this is the Mitsubishi WD-82740 being advertised for $1299.

4. to get that price you can purchase it from frys...

OR

you can go to Paul's TV (or any other store that will price match) and get them to match that price. at Paul's, they had to add the $49 delivery and setup fee because Fry's automatically charges that on tv's over 70". so, i paid $1348 total (plus tax) for a WD-82740. still a hell of a deal.

ps. i went to Paul's because they offered 12 months of 0% financing.

As a lawyer who does a fair number of divorces, I'm well-acquainted with all of the arguments and perspectives. It's been my experience that if a television is going to precipitate a divorce, the marriage was already in bad shape.

So do these require an external emitter for my 73640?

For the 640 series, ANY IR or RF based glasses require the external IR emitter or RF Transmitter. For the 640 series ONLY "DLP Link" type glasses do not require an add on emitter/transmitter.

There are currently three ways to syncronize Active Shutter 3D glasses to the TV's display of 3D material.

1. "DLP Link" - this sync signal is added to the actrual picture - requires DLP Link type glasses. Only DLP TVs and DLP Projectors can provide this system. All DLP Link Glasses should be compatible with all DLP Link TVs.

IMPORTANT the entire name of this system is DLP Link and the correct name for the matching glasses is DLP Link Glasses, not DLP glasses.

2. IR Sync - this sync signal is an infared (IR) light pattern (invisable to the human eye). This is sent by an "emitter", as in "emits light". Note: the acutal IR signal and the patterns sent are called the "IR protocol". There are many IR protocols so you need to match the IR type glasses to the protocol the emitter is sending.

3. RF Sync - this sync signal is a radio frequency (RF) signal transmitted as a radio signal - Monster Vision uses a RF signal based on Zigbee system. Bluetooth is another type of RF Sync system. Again the glasses need to match the RF system being transmitted.

All Mitsubsihi DLP Rear Projection 3D TVs support DLP Link.
1. C10, 640 and new 642 Series and all 3D Mitsubishi models before the 2011 model year support DLP Link and also, in addition, have a VESA jack on the back to plug in an IR emitter or RF transmitter if you choose not to use DLP Link.

2. 740, 840 & LaserVue A94 and the new 742 Series support DLP Link. They also have internal IR emitter that sends the Panasonic or M3Di IR protocol. To use the internal IR emitter you need glasses that work with the Panasonic IR protocol. In addition they also have the VESA jack to use IR emitters with different protocols or for RF transmitters.

3. We will find out when Mitsubishi posts the details for the new replacements in the 800 and LaserVue categories what will work for those model. Oh wait I just check Mitsubishi's web site and they have added the 842 series and it looks like those are DLP Link and internal "Full HD 3D Glasses" RF (Bluetooth) compatible with the VESA jack if you want to use IR or another RF system. Here is a link the "Full HD 3D Glasses" web site. http://www.fullhd3dglasses.com/

That just leaves the replacement LaserVue to be posted.

I guess I should have looked into this...but I had no clue there was a 742 and 842 series. Comparing the 842 to the 840...there don't seem to be any major changes. The difference between 840 and 842 listed on the site is:

16 Speaker Immersive Sound Technology - 32W Total System Power
Center Channel Mode
Surround Preouts and Variable Subwoofer Output
Full HD 3D Glasses RF Compatible
Bluetooth® A2DP Audio Streaming
PerfectColor
PerfectTint
ISFccc® Advanced Video Adjustments
4 HDMI with CEC

Should I be mad I just bought the 840? Are there any significant changes? What exactly is the "Clear Contrast Screen" on the 842?

More importantly, when will it be out and will it cost significantly more?

Paul's wouldn't price match that for me. They claimed the Frys deal was for pre-orders and they didn't have any in stock.

sorry I'm a newb with 3d but I wanted to know if my set-up is ready for 3d or if I need another adapter. I have a ps3 slim connected to a str-dh820 receiver and x104 glasses

I'm trying to compare the 82740 to the 82738? Is the only real advantage of the 82740 over the 82738 the presence of a built-in emitter? Any other reason to get the 82740 vs. the 82738?

This is how you find out if you need more.

1. Check the specifications (on the manufacturer's web site) for the TV to see if it is HDMI 3D. I already know that for the TV and yes it is. This means no adapter needed, Mitsubishi has built this in.
2. Check the specifications for the TV to see if has internal 3D glasses sync emitter (that is not the same as being 3D, a TV can be 3D but not have an emitter for glasses). Again I know that answer, yes it does and it sends the same sync signal as Panasonic so any IR glasses that work with Panasonic will work with the Mitsubsihi.
3. Check the specifications (on the manufacturer's web site) for the AV Reciever (since you did not include the brand I can not check that for you) and see if it lists "3D Pass-through" or "3D compatible" or "3D support". If the AV Receiver is good for 3D it will be listed, HDMI requires that listing.
4. Check the specification (on the manufacturer's web site) for the glasses for the brands they support. I believe your X-104 should be compatible but check that site.
5. Make sure the PS3 software is up to date. They added 3D support to the software a couple of years ago but if your unit is older than that and you have not updated the software, you may not have downloaded the update. Simply connect the PS3 to the internet and follow the on-screen instructions to check for software updates. If you normally keep the PS3 updated, then you are most likely up-to-date.

Walt's has the 73740 on sale for around twelve hundred dollars. Is the 73842 worth six hundred more. The 740 does not have the tint feature.

If you ahve the 73740 I would appreciate any insight(s) you could offer me.

Thanks!

One thing i found that the 842 series has that the 840 series does not
is Remote Access to a PC option in the Internet Feature
and thats if it works
Remember the Iphone app that is suppose to run the 840 series tvs doesnt work so who would say that this feature is not full of Bugs..

Bottom line there really is not alot difference between 840 and 842
If i had to do it over again i would stil get an 840 series tv
I love my 92 inch

Just a side note
when setting up the Custom AV1 and AV2 Settings
it doesnt carry over per input
i set mine up on the ps3 input
and when i went to my PCH input the settings where default

i have set up a day and night settings but i dialed back the colour to relaxed in daytime so that its like natural
need to give it more Color
Will post my settings when done

i have also dialed in the audio
i am not using a seperate 5.1 system but using the 16 built in speaker system
and i do find it makes a difference setting it up per your room

I love my 840 series so glad i got one

I just got my 92840 and am in the process of setting it up (am looking for calibration settings). I have the 92840 hooked-up to my Onkyo 5008 via HDMI and my DirecTv DVR (HR200) connected to the receiver via HDMI. The specs on the Onkyo say it has HDMI 1.4a connectors. When I go to view any of the DirecTV 3D channels I get a message that says my equipment is not compatible. I spoke to "tech" support at DirecTV and they told me I had to connect the DVR directly to the 92840 to see 3D. Does anyone know about this? It doesn't seem logical to me that the DVR signal wouldn't just be passed through the Onkyo to the TV. Does anyone have a similar experience with DirecTV? Thanks.

Do you have the TV and Reciever on a network? I had to do mine that way to get a pic & sound via a Pioneer SCV-57 and the 82840. With no network, no pic or sound.

1. I have hear that DirecTV has 3D issues with AV Recievers because DirecTV is not 100% HDMI 1.4a 3D. It seems DirecTV has it's own signal flags for 3D that are not HDMI standard. Most of the TV manufacturers worked with DirecTV early on to make sure of compatiblity but several AV Receiver manufacturers did not. This seems to be a DirecTV/AVR manufacturer issue, not an HDMI specs issue.

2. FYI just because an AVR is HDMI 1.4a does not mean support for 3D pass-through. 3D is OPTIONAL in 1.4a spec, not required. The AVR could be Audio Return Channel only or Eithernet channel only. However I supsect that your AVR does support 3D, this was just an FYI.

Yes, I have my system on a home network. I have an Oppo 93 which I am eager to try the 3D on. Will get a 3D Bluray movie tomorrow to test the functionality. Just got the 92840 today so still have to read the set-up instructions thoroughly. Thanks for you input.

Thanks for the information. I thought it might be something like that since the receiver just passes the signal through. I will try the 3D with a direct hookup to see what happens. But I am very disappointed with DirecTV. Do you know if DISH has the same issues?

i just bought the 73740 for 1250 but couldnt go to 82 room is only 13 by 13

mr pete noooooo not worth the extra money. I went after the 73740