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post #391 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Seawater View Post

I'm debating whether to sell my Samsung 61A750 DLP on Craigslist. It is a great set and it has a LED lamp. Meaning it should last eons. I've had 0 problems with it. It is going on 3 years old. Yet I've been reading that people with this this set eventually have problems. And I've heard that Samsung does nothing to support it's DLP owners because they no longer build them. You're on your own if something goes wrong. It sounds like Mitsubishi gives great support.

I do like the 73740 with the exception that you have to replace the lamp. And the geometry problems. It's much bigger and more up to date. It seems that Mitsubishi really likes to show off these TV's. And reading this forum owners like them too. Any advice would be appreciated.

Replacing a lamp in a Mitsubishi is very easy.
Not all Mits. have geometry problems.
So far I've owned 3 Mitsubishi's (WD-73C8, WD-82737 and now WD-92840) and non of them had a geometry problem enough to be concerned about.

If a very slight geometry problem bothers you... don't buy a DLP.
Here is a picture of my 92", judge for yourself.
[IMG][/IMG]
post #392 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Seawater View Post

I'm debating whether to sell my Samsung 61A750 DLP on Craigslist. It is a great set and it has a LED lamp. Meaning it should last eons. I've had 0 problems with it. It is going on 3 years old. Yet I've been reading that people with this set eventually have problems. And I've heard that Samsung does nothing to support it's DLP owners because they no longer build them. You're on your own if something goes wrong. It sounds like Mitsubishi gives great support.

I do like the 73740 with the exception that you have to replace the lamp. And the geometry problems. It's much bigger and more up to date. It seems that Mitsubishi really likes to show off these TV's. And reading this forum owners like them too. Any advice would be appreciated.

I sold my Samsung DLP on Craigs for $300 to make way for my Mitsubishi. My Samsung served me well, it was over 5 years old and only went through 1 lamp.

Samsung is out of the DLP market and only Mitsubishi is in it. They make a pretty reliable unit. Bang for buck, they can't be beat.
post #393 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Bonsai418 View Post

@rsk,
no pictures with someone standing next to it but I do have a picture of my ...

Thanks Bonsai, really nice looking set.
post #394 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Seawater View Post

I'm debating whether to sell my Samsung 61A750 DLP on Craigslist. It is a great set and it has a LED lamp.

Seawater, everyone will have their own opinion on this, but I am a big fan of "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" -- not because I am not wasteful, but because the buyer satisfaction is never as high as if you are solving a problem with a particular purchase.

If your TV was 8 years old and 720p only, the upgrade would be noticeable and great. Since your set isn't all that old and is sufficiently big with a nice light source engine in it, you get the new set in the house and be like "What's the big woop about this? It just looks slightly bigger than what I had..."

If your screen is too small or you have specific complaints, that is a different story... but if you are just replacing the set because you are riding the organic hype-train created any time people start talking about their expensive purchases, I'd recommend you hold off.

Also, keep in mind that you can read almost any owners thread for any of the high-end TVs here on AVS, and if you read long enough, you'll get the impression it is the best TV ever and you want one, that isn't unique to these x40 series

Hope that helps.
post #395 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Bonsai418 View Post

Here is a picture of my 92", judge for yourself.
[IMG][/IMG]

Bonsai, I meant to ask, how is the brightness on the 92" compared to the other series of Mits you've had? Are they all about the same or some seem brighter than others?

I have the 65831 and I remember the buzz around the x31 series when it came out was much like the buzz here in this thread around the x40 series. I also remember that they all shared the same lamp and you could really notice it in the biggest size (73" IIRC), it was about 15% dimmer than the 65" which was itself dimmer than the 57"

Curious if the new screen offsets that a bit or if the light engine is more effective and just makes things pop better.

I noticed on darker games and movies the dimness on the 65831 was my major complaint and I wouldn't want to go through that again.

Thanks!
post #396 of 3948
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Originally Posted by rsk View Post

Bonsai, I meant to ask, how is the brightness on the 92" compared to the other series of Mits you've had? Are they all about the same or some seem brighter than others?

I have the 65831 and I remember the buzz around the x31 series when it came out was much like the buzz here in this thread around the x40 series. I also remember that they all shared the same lamp and you could really notice it in the biggest size (73" IIRC), it was about 15% dimmer than the 65" which was itself dimmer than the 57"

Curious if the new screen offsets that a bit or if the light engine is more effective and just makes things pop better.

I noticed on darker games and movies the dimness on the 65831 was my major complaint and I wouldn't want to go through that again.

Thanks!

If I compare the 92" to my 82" (WD-82737) than yes the picture quality is better and yes also brighter.
post #397 of 3948
Looking for a replacement for my 65" HP-md6580n dlp (must be one of the few left). I was going to go with the 65" Panasonic vt-30 plasma, but this thread is making me reconsider. Since the audio and other features aren't important to me (have a 7.1 surround system I'm very pleased with), what are your opinions on the picture quality difference between the 82840 and 82740? Specifically, is the clear contrast screen a big improvement? Are there big problems with glare? I don't watch a ton of TV and usually at night, but the TV environment is pretty bright during the day due to lots of windows.
post #398 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Bonsai418 View Post

If I compare the 92" to my 82" (WD-82737) than yes the picture quality is better and yes also brighter.

Ah! Most excellent, thanks for the info.
post #399 of 3948
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Originally Posted by rsk View Post
Seawater, everyone will have their own opinion on this, but I am a big fan of "if it isn't broken, don't fix it" -- not because I am not wasteful, but because the buyer satisfaction is never as high as if you are solving a problem with a particular purchase.

If your TV was 8 years old and 720p only, the upgrade would be noticeable and great. Since your set isn't all that old and is sufficiently big with a nice light source engine in it, you get the new set in the house and be like "What's the big woop about this? It just looks slightly bigger than what I had..."

If your screen is too small or you have specific complaints, that is a different story... but if you are just replacing the set because you are riding the organic hype-train created any time people start talking about their expensive purchases, I'd recommend you hold off.

Also, keep in mind that you can read almost any owners thread for any of the high-end TVs here on AVS, and if you read long enough, you'll get the impression it is the best TV ever and you want one, that isn't unique to these x40 series

Hope that helps.
Great, wise advice Riyad. I'm going to hold on to the Samsung. It is an excellent television. Thanks...
post #400 of 3948
When a receiver states it has:

"HDMI V1.4a repeater , 7in (1 front) / 1out -
Support for 3D Video and Audio Return Channel"


I assume this means it can process the 3D signal to the 73740, correct?
post #401 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Lbear View Post

When a receiver states it has:

"HDMI V1.4a repeater , 7in (1 front) / 1out -
Support for 3D Video and Audio Return Channel"


I assume this means it can process the 3D signal to the 73740, correct?

That is how I would interpret that as well, more importantly, the HDMI 1.4 spec introduced 3D signal support, so if it says "1.4" or "1.4a" you should be good to go with regards to 3D.
post #402 of 3948
Howdy -

I have negotiated a settlement with Mitsubishi on a replacement for my busted 62725. $1200 for a 73740 and $222 for the stand for a total delivered price of $1422. They originally wanted me to pay $1600 plus the stand -

I wasn't very happy as last year they offered a 65838 for $910 including the stand.

I realize the newer model is bigger, etc. Is this a good deal? I bet in 6 months they will be selling for about what I am paying or even less.

I realize that the 62725 is pretty old and a chassis rebuild isn't thousands of dollars.

I did replace my 52525 with a 60738 and was $400 without a stand.

I feel Mits is pretty fair overall.
post #403 of 3948
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Originally Posted by geoffsimons View Post

Howdy -

I have negotiated a settlement with Mitsubishi on a replacement for my busted 62725. $1200 for a 73740 and $222 for the stand for a total delivered price of $1422. They originally wanted me to pay $1600 plus the stand -

I wasn't very happy as last year they offered a 65838 for $910 including the stand.

I realize the newer model is bigger, etc. Is this a good deal? I bet in 6 months they will be selling for about what I am paying or even less.

I realize that the 62725 is pretty old and a chassis rebuild isn't thousands of dollars.

I did replace my 52525 with a 60738 and was $400 without a stand.

I feel Mits is pretty fair overall.

The deal is OK, not bad but not great either. I guarantee you that Mitsubishi did NOT lose any money on the deal, they still made their profit. One can buy the 73740 for that same price if you look hard and find some deals. Ideally Mitsubishi should have let it go at cost, which would probably be around $500 or so.

What was going on with the 62725? Was it out of warranty?
post #404 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Lbear View Post

The deal is OK, not bad but not great either. I guarantee you that Mitsubishi did NOT lose any money on the deal, they still made their profit. One can buy the 73740 for that same price if you look hard and find some deals. Ideally Mitsubishi should have let it go at cost, which would probably be around $500 or so.

What was going on with the 62725? Was it out of warranty?

The chassis was rebuilt and the caps went bad again.

I was bummed out that first they wanted $1600 plus the stand but I talked to a few "supervisors" and they made it feel like they did me a favor.

I saw a used on on Amazon for $1579 or so so figured $1200 isnt too bad considering I have the 60738 for so cheap and the 57833 is still going.
post #405 of 3948
Ok, Here is a few questions for you guys.
In playing with the TV, I noticed that the format button on the remote was toggling between a series of "1080i" selections as opposed to "1080p" . Is this normal?
additionally, does Avatar "loose" the bars on the top and bottom?
Thanks,
LewB
post #406 of 3948
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Originally Posted by lbrande View Post

Ok, Here is a few questions for you guys.
In playing with the TV, I noticed that the format button on the remote was toggling between a series of "1080i" selections as opposed to "1080p" . Is this normal?
additionally, does Avatar "loose" the bars on the top and bottom?
Thanks,
LewB

Don't play with the TV, it is not a toy.

Seriously though, the 1080i being displayed is probably your input signal. Only a Blu-ray player, computer, or some games would feed it 1080P. What is your source device?

Also, you can probably zoom a movie and lose the bars on top and bottom, but you are also losing a lot on the sides. Hi-def is natively 16:9, which is 1.78:1 aspect ratio. Some movies can be 2.39:1 which would be presented with bars on top and bottom, just as stadard def (4:3, or 1.33:1) has bars on the sides.

These format settings are for stretching standard def pictures. I never use them, as they stretch an already sub-standard format, and seem to worsen the picture.
post #407 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

Don't play with the TV, it is not a toy.

Seriously though, the 1080i being displayed is probably your input signal. Only a Blu-ray player, computer, or some games would feed it 1080P. What is your source device?

Also, you can probably zoom a movie and lose the bars on top and bottom, but you are also losing a lot on the sides. Hi-def is natively 16:9, which is 1.78:1 aspect ratio. Some movies can be 2.39:1 which would be presented with bars on top and bottom, just as stadard def (4:3, or 1.33:1) has bars on the sides.

These format settings are for stretching standard def pictures. I never use them, as they stretch an already sub-standard format, and seem to worsen the picture.

My source device is a Sony BluRay player, using a HDMI input. Anything else?
post #408 of 3948
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Originally Posted by lbrande View Post

My source device is a Sony BluRay player, using a HDMI input. Anything else?

Check the settings in the player. The Bluray spec allows for 1080P24 or 1080i60 output.
post #409 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Augerhandle View Post

Check the settings in the player. The Bluray spec allows for 1080P24 or 1080i60 output.

Thanks. That was it. I originally set the output to component years ago. Now I can say that the picture is noticeably clearer and stunning.

Lew
post #410 of 3948
HI ALL. i was fortunate that a local electronics store had the Mitsi's 840 series. I mean like 92" 82" an 73" . Notice that the "BIG" ones had a shiiiinnneee screen. It got on my nerves how shiny they were. I am glad i got a 73640; an i am loving it.
post #411 of 3948
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Originally Posted by ILOVEMYHDTV View Post
HI ALL. i was fortunate that a local electronics store had the Mitsi's 840 series. I mean like 92" 82" an 73" . Notice that the "BIG" ones had a shiiiinnneee screen. It got on my nerves how shiny they were. I am glad i got a 73640; an i am loving it.
I am glad for you too
I LOVE my shiiiinnneee 92"
post #412 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Bonsai418 View Post
I am glad for you too
I LOVE my shiiiinnneee 92"
Both the matte and glossy screens are great TV's. The one disadvantage of the glossy screen is that if your room has a lot of ambient light in the daytime, you will get screen reflections during the day.

I have a gloss finish on my laptop and at night or low light it is great but during the daytime I have problems with glare. I have to position it away from any light source. It reminds me of the old CRT's, as they had those issues also due to the reflective screen.

For some the glossy finish is not a problem but I can see where it can present a problem. My belief is that Mitsubishi did this gloss finish to help the sets "pop" with its picture.
post #413 of 3948
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Originally Posted by Lbear View Post
Both the matte and glossy screens are great TV's. The one disadvantage of the glossy screen is that if your room has a lot of ambient light in the daytime, you will get screen reflections during the day.

I have a gloss finish on my laptop and at night or low light it is great but during the daytime I have problems with glare. I have to position it away from any light source. It reminds me of the old CRT's, as they had those issues also due to the reflective screen.

For some the glossy finish is not a problem but I can see where it can present a problem. My belief is that Mitsubishi did this gloss finish to help the sets "pop" with its picture.
I put room darkening curtains on my windows in the living room... problem solved
post #414 of 3948
Hi,

I've watching my WD 92840 for a couple of weeks now.

I'm very pleased. The 3-d is pretty cool.

I'm having a bit of trouble setting up my Harmony Remote "harmony one"

Harmony doesn't seem to have the new sets in their data base.

I am having trouble with getting the correct HDMI input to turn on.

I tried entering last years Mitsubishi Diamond series and I've had only partial sucess.

Any suggestions ???

-DR.
post #415 of 3948
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Originally Posted by dr515 View Post

Hi,

I've watching my WD 92840 for a couple of weeks now.

I'm very pleased. The 3-d is pretty cool.

I'm having a bit of trouble setting up my Harmony Remote "harmony one"

Harmony doesn't seem to have the new sets in their data base.

I am having trouble with getting the correct HDMI input to turn on.

I tried entering last years Mitsubishi Diamond series and I've had only partial sucess.

Any suggestions ???

-DR.

I managed to get my 73740 working pretty well with an older Harmony remote (550). The 73740 did seem to be in their database.

The only hiccup was the initial turnon period. I had to go into the troubleshooting section for the TV, and tell it that when the TV first turns on that the input wasn't changing properly. They allow you to specify a period of time that the remote will wait before sending the signals (I think I went with 20 seconds - which is a pain since you have to keep the remote pointed at the TV for that long at intial turn-on). I could probably try lowering this time, but it only applies for that first "turn on". It doesn't have the same delay when switching between activities - just when the remote thinks everything is off and you choose an activity to start up with.

Not sure if your TV will be different since it has an additional HDMI input, but I would think the remote codes are the same.
post #416 of 3948
Thanks,

I advanced mine to 10 sec. but I'll try 15 to 20 sec to see if it helps.

-DR
post #417 of 3948
Just ordered my 92" last week, as for 3D do I only need the "Mitsubishi 3DG-X103 3D Shutter Glasses" without the emitter to watch 3D content on this Mits?

Thanks
post #418 of 3948
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Originally Posted by rustolemite View Post

Just ordered my 92" last week, as for 3D do I only need the "Mitsubishi 3DG-X103 3D Shutter Glasses" without the emitter to watch 3D content on this Mits?

Thanks

That is all you would need to watch 3D or 2D + Depth.
Do you have a 3D Blu-Ray Player?
post #419 of 3948
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Originally Posted by rsk View Post

That is how I would interpret that as well, more importantly, the HDMI 1.4 spec introduced 3D signal support, so if it says "1.4" or "1.4a" you should be good to go with regards to 3D.

This is not exactly correct. None of the new 1.4a features - including 3D - are required to be supported. While the specs for the receiver in question indicates 3D support so it should be OK, a receiver with 1.4a may only support Audio Return Channel. Becasue none of the new features are required, HDMI LLC requires the spec sheet to specifically list the features that are supported, not just state the HDMI version number.
post #420 of 3948
Yeah and some downloaded contect on pc to played back with TotalMedia Theater 5
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