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post #121 of 267
10/30/11 at 10:44am
dennis your settings are great but i made a few changes to them (personal preference)

for verizon fios changes were ......(nighttime viewing) although i use them all day

noise reduction (med)
mpeg noise (low)
motion flow (clearplus)

i think clear plus makes a huge difference in PQ
great job thanks
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post #122 of 267
10/30/11 at 2:43pm
Could someone help me with the following question and give some more details. Don't seem to be able to get the right answers anywhere:

I am gonna put my HX920 through a calibration in the coming days.
Two question before I will start:

1. what is the difference between clear and clear plus (clear plus seems dimmer than clear)?
2. what is the difference beween auto 1 and auto 2?

And any additional recommendations?
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post #123 of 267
10/31/11 at 8:07am
Just got the 46HX929 a few weeks ago and I love it. I connect my PC to it via HDMI and that's what I use as my monitor. I play all my movies, TV Shows, and PC games using it so my settings are pretty versatile across all sources. When playing my XBOX 360 and PS3 I use pretty much the same settings except I use "Game" as my Scene Selection and turn Cinemotion off before customizing.

I tried some of the settings posted here that a lot of people considered the best and just was not satisfied with the results. Most of them caused a lack of sharpness and I prefer really inky and deep blacks as well as a brighter image. My settings produce an image with really nice inky deep blacks, good contrast, and the right amount of sharpness. I feel this is the best picture for my setup and I have tested it with BluRay movies, games, and TV shows in HD.

I hope they help someone and they enjoy it or at least use it for a starting point to start tweaking. If you have the same kind of setup as me I think you'll like it.


Scene Select: General
Picture Mode: Custom
Backlight: 9
Picture: Max
Brightness: 45
Color: 45
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 1
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Low
MPEG Noise Reduction: Low
Dot Noise Reduction: Auto
Reality Creation: Auto
Smooth Gradation: Low
Motionflow: Standard
CineMotion: Auto 1 (Off for PC Gaming)
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: +1
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Low
Live Color: Low
White Balance:
R-Gain: -3
G-Gain: -5
B-Gain: -5
R-Bias: 0
G-Bias: 0
B-Bias: 0
Detail Enhancer: Low
Edge Enhancer: Low
Skin Naturalizer: Greyed Out
i/p Conversion Preference: Greyed Out
Ambient Sensor: Off (Makes Picture too Dark in lighted room)
Color Matrix: Auto
HDMI Dynamic Range: Auto
SBM: On
Wide Mode: Full
Auto Wide: Off
Auto Display Area: Off
Display Area: Full Pixel
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post #124 of 267
10/31/11 at 10:35am
Backlight = 9!!!!

Doesn't that hurt your eyes
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post #125 of 267
11/2/11 at 12:22pm
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Backlight = 9!!!!

Doesn't that hurt your eyes


I got used to how bright this TV is and it's nothing now. Along with the other adjustments it provides a perfect image in a room with windows during the daytime. When it's nighttime and the lights are off I lower the back light to 6 or 7.

Try the settings out for a movie and I think you will like it. I tried some of the settings others recommended and everyone was going nuts over but it just didn't do it for me. I felt it was lacking showing off the inky blacks that this set is known for. My settings give genuine blacks with perfect contrast and natural skin colors.

Only thing that really bothers me about this set is the blooming. When playing games it's incredibly noticeable when there are loading screens that are black and have a small white loading icon in the bottom right corner the entire corner will have a faint white glow. Batman Arkham city is a good example. The loading screens with the white bat symbol creates a halo in the corner.

Pretty much anytime there is a completely black background and there is a small white or bright colored icon or graphic on the screen there is blooming. Luckily I don't have the creasing issue others talk about.
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post #126 of 267
11/5/11 at 6:42pm
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Originally Posted by Jasonjo View Post

Hi All,

I thought my current KDL-46HX923 tweaking/calibration settings might be useful to others:

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx...E91BFCAD09!522

I have split the settings down into Standard Viewing Mode and Home Cinema Viewing Mode, each with their own 2D and 3D settings.

The settings are still a bit of a work in progress, but I am pretty happy with them at the moment...when I make any changes, I will create new versions in the above location.

Cheers

JJ

Updated my settings to v1.1 (same location as above) after living with the set and using the Disney WOW disc...
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post #127 of 267
11/7/11 at 3:03pm
For you guys that have a PC wired to the TV or are using a WIDI connection bring up TV Test patterns that may be helpfull to fine tune the set. For example try the Web site
below
http://www.google.com/search?q=tv+te...3&bih=511&sei= ZVK4TunXGYqrgweKq8SCBA
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post #128 of 267
11/9/11 at 1:08pm
The settings I'm using right now are perfect for me except for the one issue which is the blooming which can get annoying at times especially when you're gaming. It's not like the loading screens are actually part of the game but it still annoys me when a spinning white loading icon is in the corner on a black background and you see this white glow around the object.

It's the one moment when using this TV where the set feels "cheap". It just feels like I'm being insulted considering it's a $2000+ TV. You shouldn't have to bargain for a good picture at that price. My old TV didn't even come anywhere close to the genuine blacks this TV produces but it also had no blooming issues. For $2300 there should be genuine blacks AND no blooming. This isn't some entry level or even mid level TV... this is the most expensive LED sets that Sony makes!!

It's only when there is a very small white object on the screen with a full black background. If there is more than one white object or full sentences of white text in the middle of a black screen then there isn't really any blooming unless you look from an angle. Also if there is an object of another color as well as a white object then there is no blooming.

It's only when there is a smaller white object near one of the corners of the screen on a black background. It also happens with the mouse cursor when you're moving it across a black background you can literally see the LEDs lighting up trailing behind it and causing the blooming effect.

Do you think blooming is something they can fix with a firmware update by improving the TVs ability to control the LED brightness or is that a hardware issue that will never go away?
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post #129 of 267
11/9/11 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by wushdishmeen View Post

The settings I'm using right now are perfect for me except for the one issue which is the blooming which can get annoying at times especially when you're gaming. It's not like the loading screens are actually part of the game but it still annoys me when a spinning white loading icon is in the corner on a black background and you see this white glow around the object.

It's the one moment when using this TV where the set feels "cheap". It just feels like I'm being insulted considering it's a $2000+ TV. You shouldn't have to bargain for a good picture at that price. My old TV didn't even come anywhere close to the genuine blacks this TV produces but it also had no blooming issues. For $2300 there should be genuine blacks AND no blooming. This isn't some entry level or even mid level TV... this is the most expensive LED sets that Sony makes!!

It's only when there is a very small white object on the screen with a full black background. If there is more than one white object or full sentences of white text in the middle of a black screen then there isn't really any blooming unless you look from an angle. Also if there is an object of another color as well as a white object then there is no blooming.

It's only when there is a smaller white object near one of the corners of the screen on a black background. It also happens with the mouse cursor when you're moving it across a black background you can literally see the LEDs lighting up trailing behind it and causing the blooming effect.

Do you think blooming is something they can fix with a firmware update by improving the TVs ability to control the LED brightness or is that a hardware issue that will never go away?

I don't think it can be corrected because that is the nature of local dimming. All the led zones are completely shut off besides the area that is displaying the white object or text on the loading screen. Do you play with local dimming on? Also, care to share your settings?
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post #130 of 267
11/9/11 at 2:37pm
I also see blooming whenever the volume scale is displayed on darker backgrounds. I do not think it is possible to NOT have the volume scale appear. Bummer.
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post #131 of 267
11/10/11 at 12:25pm
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Originally Posted by wushdishmeen View Post


Do you think blooming is something they can fix with a firmware update by improving the TVs ability to control the LED brightness or is that a hardware issue that will never go away?

The blooming is rather easily mitigated by reducing the backlight level. Unfortunately thats not your personal preference. My XBR65 is pretty bright at level 4. Level 6 highlights hurt. I wonder if something might be wrong with your particular set.
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post #132 of 267
11/13/11 at 7:27am
I own the 55hx929. Does anyone have a source that explains the relationship and dependencies among

1. Scene
2. select memory
3. picture mode

Perphaps an owner's manual from a past xbr tv?

Thanks in advance.

Carbon
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post #133 of 267
11/14/11 at 10:27pm
Hello, just got my 55" and loved it! Does anybody have a suggestion for a great 2D/3D setting for Animation? Is the TV preset Animation setting good enough? I'm looking for a good setting especially for Pixar movies. Let me know if the other settings provided here are also good enough for the any animated movies. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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post #134 of 267
11/21/11 at 8:12am
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post

After going back and forth between CNET's picture settings and my calibrated settings I can now say my calibrated settings are much better. Thanks again to my calibrator. If anyone is interested in trying out my settings PM me and I will reply with them. Not sure I want to put them on here for everyone.

Can you please send them to me as well? Thanks!
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post #135 of 267
12/5/11 at 2:02pm
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Can you please send them to me as well? Thanks!

Dennis...could you please send them to me also? Thanks
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post #136 of 267
12/6/11 at 4:13pm
After trying all the settings I've settled with this setting. I tried the setting Rizz suggested to me and has adjusted some of the settings to my liking. They may look dull at first but once your eyes gets used to it, I think you'll find it more natural looking and more pleasant to watch and less clouding or blooming as others have been noticing. Your welcome to try.

For 2D
Note: Backlight can be raised to lighten picture to taste


Picture Mode: Custom

Backlight: +2

Picture: 73

Brightness: 45

Color: 48

Hue: 0

Color Temperature: Warm 2

Sharpness: 50

Noise Reduction: Off

MPEG NoiseReduction Off

Dot Noise Reduction Off

Reality Creation Off

Smooth Gradation Low

MotionFlow Off

CineMotion: Auto 1

Advanced Settings
Black Corrector: Off

Advanced
Contrast Enhancer: Off

Gamma: +2
LED Dynamic Control Standard

Auto Light Limiter: Off

Clear White: Off

Live Color: Off

White Balance:
Red Gain: -5
Green Gain: 0
Blue Gain: -5
Red Bias: -1
Green Bias: -1
Blue Bias: -1

Detail Enhancer Off

Edge Enhancer Off

Skin Naturalizer ---*

i/p Conversion Preference ---* (speed on game mode)

Screen: Display Area Full Pixel or +1 if not on 1080p

Color Matrix Auto

HDMI Dynamic Range Auto

Color Matrix Auto

Other
Ambient Sensor Off

Pro Picture

HDMI Dynamic Range Auto

Color Matrix Default

SBM On
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post #137 of 267
12/11/11 at 9:16am
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Originally Posted by wushdishmeen View Post

Just got the 46HX929 a few weeks ago and I love it. I connect my PC to it via HDMI and that's what I use as my monitor. I play all my movies, TV Shows, and PC games using it so my settings are pretty versatile across all sources. When playing my XBOX 360 and PS3 I use pretty much the same settings except I use "Game" as my Scene Selection and turn Cinemotion off before customizing.

I tried some of the settings posted here that a lot of people considered the best and just was not satisfied with the results. Most of them caused a lack of sharpness and I prefer really inky and deep blacks as well as a brighter image. My settings produce an image with really nice inky deep blacks, good contrast, and the right amount of sharpness. I feel this is the best picture for my setup and I have tested it with BluRay movies, games, and TV shows in HD.

I hope they help someone and they enjoy it or at least use it for a starting point to start tweaking. If you have the same kind of setup as me I think you'll like it.


Scene Select: General
Picture Mode: Custom
Backlight: 9
Picture: Max
Brightness: 45
Color: 45
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 1
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Low
MPEG Noise Reduction: Low
Dot Noise Reduction: Auto
Reality Creation: Auto
Smooth Gradation: Low
Motionflow: Standard
CineMotion: Auto 1 (Off for PC Gaming)
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: +1
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Low
Live Color: Low
White Balance:
R-Gain: -3
G-Gain: -5
B-Gain: -5
R-Bias: 0
G-Bias: 0
B-Bias: 0
Detail Enhancer: Low
Edge Enhancer: Low
Skin Naturalizer: Greyed Out
i/p Conversion Preference: Greyed Out
Ambient Sensor: Off (Makes Picture too Dark in lighted room)
Color Matrix: Auto
HDMI Dynamic Range: Auto
SBM: On
Wide Mode: Full
Auto Wide: Off
Auto Display Area: Off
Display Area: Full Pixel

Thank You! I have been trying lots of setting and like yours the best. Really liking the idea of not turning everything to off. Always seemed funny to me that they put all this auto stuff in there and then everyone turns it off. My picture is much sharper now and has more pop too.
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post #138 of 267
12/11/11 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by bpmurr View Post

Please try to keep things limited to settings and calibrations posts. Please refer to the owners thread for discussion.

CNET

Home menu>Settings>Picture & Display

--Picture Adjustments menu--
Setting Memory: [any]
Picture Mode: Custom
Backlight: 1
Picture: 90
Brightness: 52
Color: 50
Hue: 0
Color Temperature: Warm 2
Sharpness: 50
Noise Reduction: Off
MPEG Noise Reduction: Off
Dot noise reduction: Off
Reality Creation: Off
Smooth Gradation: Low
Motionflow: Off
CineMotion: Off

-Advanced Settings submenu-
Black Corrector: Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer: Off
Gamma: +1
LED Dynamic Control: Standard
Auto Light Limiter: Off
Clear White: Off
Live Color: Off
White Balance: [see below]
Detail Enhancer: Off
Edge Enhancer: Off
Skin Naturalizer: Off [grayed out]
i/p Conversion Preference: Quality [grayed out]

-White Balance submenu-
R-Gain: -5
G-Gain: -1
B-Gain: -6
R-Bias: 0
G-Bias: 0
B-Bias: 0

Ambient Sensor: Off

--Screen menu--
Setting Memory: [any]
Wide Mode: Full
Auto Wide: Off
4:3 Default: Off [grayed out]
Auto Display Area: Off
Display Area: Full Pixel
Screen Position: [grayed out]
Vertical Size: 0 [grayed out]

--Pro Picture Setup menu--
[all settings default/Auto]

--Home Menu>Settings>Preferences--

--Scene Select menu--
General

--Eco menu--
Power Saving: Off

FlatpanelsHD

After calibration
Picture mode: Cinema/Theatre
Backlight 7
Contrast 84
Brightness: 50
Colour: 50
Hue: 0
Sharpness: 0
Colour temperature Warm2
Noise reduction Off
Mpeg noise reduction Off
Dot Noise Reduction Off
Reality Creation Off
Smooth Gradation Off
Motionflow Clear Plus
Film-mode Auto 1/Auto 2
Black corrector Off
Adv. Contrast Enhancer Off
Gamma +1
LED Dynamic Control Standard
Auto Light Limiter Off
Clear White Off
Live Colour Off
Detail/Edge/ enha. Off
R Gain -3
G Gain -6
B Gain 0
R Bias -2
G Bias 0
B Bias +1

I don't have this set yet. I'm getting it at Christmas. I am a newbie to calibrating, and to this forum. This is my first post. I want to find the best settings for overall viewing. Has anyone tried CNET's settings with Motionflow and Reality Creation set to ON? What's their beef with these two features? They are Sony's selling points for this set! Also, how can I get equal quality out of Game mode? I am greedy. I want the best picture with minimal lag on PS3 games. Thanks in advance!
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post #139 of 267
12/16/11 at 6:44am
Just going to start tuning my new 55" 929. This thread should help a lot. Still not seeing 3d settings tho?
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post #140 of 267
12/16/11 at 9:09am
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Originally Posted by logan1080 View Post

Just going to start tuning my new 55" 929. This thread should help a lot. Still not seeing 3d settings tho?

3D can be tricky because the TV turns off most of the extra features although we don't need those extra features anyway. You can try the suggested settings from this website http://www.hometheater.com/content/s...-hdtv-settings I used this before I got mine professionally calibrated. If I were you, I would get mine professionally calibrated especially for that TV we bought, it would make a lot of difference.
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post #141 of 267
12/17/11 at 5:11pm
Quick question...sometimes the HX929 55" will go into Wide Zoom. How can I get it to stay on full? For instance...when my daughter watches her cartoons with comcast on demand, i noticed the image was really zoomed in and I checked the display settings and noticed it was set to wide zoom. When I calibrated the tv I put the display on full with auto zoom off. Does the tv just automatically change the settings? Any help is appreciated. set up is hd-dvr via hdmi to tv. Thanks!
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post #142 of 267
12/17/11 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by John91C View Post

Quick question...sometimes the HX929 55" will go into Wide Zoom. How can I get it to stay on full? For instance...when my daughter watches her cartoons with comcast on demand, i noticed the image was really zoomed in and I checked the display settings and noticed it was set to wide zoom. When I calibrated the tv I put the display on full with auto zoom off. Does the tv just automatically change the settings? Any help is appreciated. set up is hd-dvr via hdmi to tv. Thanks!

It could be your Comcast box settings, make sure it's setup correctly besides your tv. I don't have Comcast but on my Time Warner I make sure my video settings is on HDMI, resolution at auto settings and aspect ratio is 16:9
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post #143 of 267
12/20/11 at 5:56am
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Originally Posted by John91C View Post

Quick question...sometimes the HX929 55" will go into Wide Zoom. How can I get it to stay on full? For instance...when my daughter watches her cartoons with comcast on demand, i noticed the image was really zoomed in and I checked the display settings and noticed it was set to wide zoom. When I calibrated the tv I put the display on full with auto zoom off. Does the tv just automatically change the settings? Any help is appreciated. set up is hd-dvr via hdmi to tv. Thanks!

Go to screen settings and turn off anything that is auto. I believe auto wide or something.
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post #144 of 267
12/20/11 at 9:03pm
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Originally Posted by Testpattern View Post

Guys, I have a basic question regarding the picture modes relative to the various settings accessible to the user.

I thought I was being smart cloning my settings under STANDARD to CUSTOM. My thinking was I could then play with the setting at will under CUSTOM without disturbing the Sony package provided under STANDARD. What I observed was the identical settings under CUSTOM did not produce the same picture as they did under STANDARD.

So what I think I learned is the various picture modes, ie Cinema, Standard, Custom, Vivid, etc are a product of more than just the user accessible settings.

Is this true?

I have a 55hx820 and was wondering the same thing. My original assumption was the scene modes were just "bookmarks" for various settings and you could make one look like any other by matching settings. But everyone is very specific about what scene mode they are using, so I know this isn't the case. So what are the differences between them? I've just been tweaking custom.
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post #145 of 267
12/20/11 at 9:28pm
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

I have a 55hx820 and was wondering the same thing. My original assumption was the scene modes were just "bookmarks" for various settings and you could make one look like any other by matching settings. But everyone is very specific about what scene mode they are using, so I know this isn't the case. So what are the differences between them? I've just been tweaking custom.

I don't agree with testpattern. I did the exact same thing, copied all settings (when the scene menu is set to auto or genereal) from Standard to Custom and found the picture to be identical. Maybe he didn't copy all of the advanced settings? I then tweaked Custom to my liking.

Vivid, however can't be set that way because you can't access advanced settings when in Vivid mode. The specific scene settings such as Sports or Cinema may also have some differences that can't be changed by the user.
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post #146 of 267
12/21/11 at 6:42am
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Originally Posted by royrose View Post

I don't agree with testpattern. I did the exact same thing, copied all settings (when the scene menu is set to auto or genereal) from Standard to Custom and found the picture to be identical. Maybe he didn't copy all of the advanced settings? I then tweaked Custom to my liking.

Vivid, however can't be set that way because you can't access advanced settings when in Vivid mode. The specific scene settings such as Sports or Cinema may also have some differences that can't be changed by the user.

Same experience here.
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post #147 of 267
12/21/11 at 7:11am
I had posted about this in the 929 owners thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=9268

Since then I found zero differences between the Scene Selects.
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post #148 of 267
12/21/11 at 7:26am
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Originally Posted by snash22 View Post

I had posted about this in the 929 owners thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=9268

Since then I found zero differences between the Scene Selects.

Which makes it even more curious why people put their scene selections down when sharing their settings....
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post #149 of 267
12/21/11 at 8:42am
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Originally Posted by millerrh View Post

Which makes it even more curious why people put their scene selections down when sharing their settings....

It only makes sense if you are ensuring some things are not greyed out.

I have to correct my statement, I could not determine if the "UNVERIFIED" portion about the settings changes with the Scene Select. It had to do with the backlight turning totally off.
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post #150 of 267
12/22/11 at 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by snash22 View Post

I had posted about this in the 929 owners thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...postcount=9268

Since then I found zero differences between the Scene Selects.

I see very different results between the different scene selections.
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