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post #301 of 680
Owners of ML500 - please let us know which type of DMD used in this projector. Is that "conventional" DMD or "diagonal" one - like in Vivitek QUMI? Just please make macro photo of projected black text on white background. From very close distance - 5"..8" from screen to camera. To let us see pixels on the photo.
post #302 of 680
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Originally Posted by Gourmand View Post

Owners of ML500 - please let us know which type of DMD used in this projector. Is that "conventional" DMD or "diagonal" one - like in Vivitek QUMI? Just please make macro photo of projected black text on white background. From very close distance - 5"..8" from screen to camera. To let us see pixels on the photo.

It's been mentioned that it's the diagonal chipset. The .45 DMD if I'm not mistaken.

Same as the qumi.

This whole round of "so-called" HD led PJs are all using the same chipset as the Qumi.

The resolution isn't even actually 1280x800. It's just perceived as 1280x800.
post #303 of 680
I supposed that. But to be sure it's better see pictures. If so then these projectors cannot be used for presentations as secondary computer monitor. Each horizontal or vertical single pixel line is drawn by 2 lines of pixels. This is serious image distortion.
post #304 of 680
I have the QUMI and waiting to hear more about the Acer (to see if it's any quieter than the Optoma) and will get one of the 500 lumen models as well.

this topic has been beaten up pretty good since the QUMI was announced. I think for video, pixel structure is less noticeable on the QUMI on my 142" high power screen vs. the Acer 5360 where the pixel structure is quite noticeable compared to my 1080P projectors.

I probably wouldn't use it for a secondary PC display, but for presentations like powerpoint, I don't see a problem with it. 720P is kind of beat for corporate presentations anyway, especially if your viewing spreadsheets, etc.

IMO, these projectors (qumi and 500 lumen models) are a great breakthrough compared to the previous LED's which were seen as dim toys. These projectors are actually usable for watch TV, some movies, etc.

I don't expect the same image quality as my Sony HW30 or JVCRS50, but then again, I can't fit either of those in my laptop bag.
post #305 of 680
Negative on the 60hz. If it was truly 60hz, then the flickering would be non existent to a camera set at 1/60th of a second. The flickering was the least amount at 1/30th of a second which would mean it closer to that. I would post an example, but I am not sure on the copyright rules as far as movie clips go.
post #306 of 680
Greetings all

I don’t want to go without a projector (actually wife doesn’t) so I don’t want to wait any longer for the Acer, so the Optoma is my only choice today. I have a few questions if some may have a moment.

The New LG HW has a problem, when feeding it a 16:9 image it stretches it to 16:10 , and in the thread when showing an image it is easily detected, does this Optoma have the same problem?

Light control is not a problem in the room, so I’ll be using it in ECO mode, are there different fan speed for the different modes?

I’m going from the LG HS 201 to this so this will be a BIG jump (Image, brightness) for me, I was wondering if anyone here tried the Qumi first then went to this. I ask because I had the Qumi for 3 days so a brightness/fan noise I can reference.

I’m also assuming (because I haven’t read anything bad so far) there are no surprises with this lockups/focus issue/etc.

You input will be greatly appreciated

AFM
post #307 of 680
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Originally Posted by afineman View Post

Gerrtings all

The New LG HW has a problem, when feeding it a 16:9 image it stretches it to 16:10 , and in the thread when showing an image it is easily detected, does this Optoma have the same problem?

No, by default it automatically detects the input resolution and displays it at properly without stretching. You can, via the settings menu, lock it at a certain ratio, for example, 16:10, and then it will stretch the input material to match that.

At default settings, in a dark room, you can see see the full 16:10 projection. As in, there are very very faint black bars on the top and bottom of the 16:9 picture since that is not its native res. Slightly annoying.


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Originally Posted by afineman View Post

Gerrtings all
Light control is not a problem in the room, so I'll be using it in ECO mode, are there different fan speed for the different modes?

Yes, the fans definitely slow down and get quieter in ECO mode. That happens automatically.

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Originally Posted by afineman View Post

I'm also assuming (because I haven't read anything bad so far) there are no surprises with this lockups/focus issue/etc.

I have experienced none of these issues. I am at around 40 hours of use.
post #308 of 680
Thanks for the input altdelete47.

I'm guessing that when using as a PC monitor, the text isn't very clear when feeding it the native resolution?

-Cheers.

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Originally Posted by altdelete47 View Post

No, by default it automatically detects the input resolution and displays it at properly without stretching. You can, via the settings menu, lock it at a certain ratio, for example, 16:10, and then it will stretch the input material to match that.

At default settings, in a dark room, you can see see the full 16:10 projection. As in, there are very very faint black bars on the top and bottom of the 16:9 picture since that is not its native res. Slightly annoying.




Yes, the fans definitely slow down and get quieter in ECO mode. That happens automatically.



I have experienced none of these issues. I am at around 40 hours of use.
post #309 of 680
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Originally Posted by PoisonWolf View Post

Thanks for the input altdelete47.

I'm guessing that when using as a PC monitor, the text isn't very clear when feeding it the native resolution?

-Cheers.

I wish it was clearer
post #310 of 680
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Originally Posted by blee0120 View Post

I wish it was clearer

Thanks for that blee, that sentiment speaks a thousand words in itself.
post #311 of 680
picopros just posted there pre review for the ml500
im not allowed yet to post any links but find it in youtube under: Optoma ML500 Projector Unboxing and Review by Picopros
looks good
post #312 of 680
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Originally Posted by gol View Post

picopros just posted there pre review for the ml500
im not allowed yet to post any links but find it in youtube under: Optoma ML500 Projector Unboxing and Review by Picopros
looks good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUCdd7tJNYY
post #313 of 680
thanks for posting the review. I am sure it would have been a nice pj for my bedroom if I was deaf. wisch someone will come out with a model designed for home theater" that there was something
in between those insanely expensive ht-led projectors and these portable models
post #314 of 680
Nice review. But maybe he should've pushed the image a bit more size wise. I mean he's projecting a 36 inch image, whereas the specs says up to 180 inch. It's a new breed 500 lumens led pj, put it to the test!

And maybe comment on the noise level if it was a factor as well.
post #315 of 680
optomas changed the specs
Contrast Ratio 3000:1 (Full On/Full Off)
post #316 of 680
"Picopros does a full review of the Optoma ML500"

Yeah... That wasn't much of a review.
post #317 of 680
Agreed on the review - not that I am knocking it, but 36 inches? That is like taking a Viper out for a spine and not going over 45mph Is there anything else anyone would like to see/know about the ML500? I was going to spend some time in the theater room this weekend and can take some more videos and pics if interested...

eat meat - I noticed they changed that a while back. I believe it was 2000:1 initially and then it was changed to 3000:1.

I am still perturbed about the remote being different than in that picture posted. It makes me wonder how much actually gets added to pj's right before their release date due to people's responses.
post #318 of 680
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Originally Posted by Jartanyon View Post

Agreed on the review - not that I am knocking it, but 36 inches? That is like taking a Viper out for a spine and not going over 45mph Is there anything else anyone would like to see/know about the ML500? I was going to spend some time in the theater room this weekend and can take some more videos and pics if interested...

eat meat - I noticed they changed that a while back. I believe it was 2000:1 initially and then it was changed to 3000:1.

I am still perturbed about the remote being different than in that picture posted. It makes me wonder how much actually gets added to pj's right before their release date due to people's responses.

Any chance you have the star wars blu to try on it? Or older movie like ghostbusters.Would love to see some vids of these on the projector.Maybe even some video game play.
post #319 of 680
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Originally Posted by Jartanyon View Post

Agreed on the review - not that I am knocking it, but 36 inches? That is like taking a Viper out for a spine and not going over 45mph Is there anything else anyone would like to see/know about the ML500? I was going to spend some time in the theater room this weekend and can take some more videos and pics if interested...

eat meat - I noticed they changed that a while back. I believe it was 2000:1 initially and then it was changed to 3000:1.

I am still perturbed about the remote being different than in that picture posted. It makes me wonder how much actually gets added to pj's right before their release date due to people's responses.

Thanks for the offer Jartanyon. I'll probably end up getting the Acer model, cause of the fact that it'll be available in Europe first. And I'll be going for around 110 inch screen size (diagonal). I know tests showed that the Optoma is a little bit brighter than the Acer, but still I would like to know if the Optoma can do 110 inch comfortably in your eyes without much gain? If it does 110 inches well, can it even push to 120 inch? Thx!

Oh yeah! And a few pics and vids would be nice as well. Thx! Thx!
post #320 of 680
I'd like to know more about the media player, particularily with regards to H.264 in MKV.
post #321 of 680
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jartanyon View Post

Agreed on the review - not that I am knocking it, but 36 inches? That is like taking a Viper out for a spine and not going over 45mph Is there anything else anyone would like to see/know about the ML500? I was going to spend some time in the theater room this weekend and can take some more videos and pics if interested...

eat meat - I noticed they changed that a while back. I believe it was 2000:1 initially and then it was changed to 3000:1.

I am still perturbed about the remote being different than in that picture posted. It makes me wonder how much actually gets added to pj's right before their release date due to people's responses.

1. Regarding the remote: The photo that i uploaded is of the optoma DH5101 which is the twin of the ML500. It is a Chinese model. I don't know why
the ML500 does't has the feature of the WIFI display.
2. Could you please tell us what is the Max. image that you can see in day
light? 36" or more?

Thanks in advanced,
post #322 of 680
Not sure if the reviewer follows this forum so I asked several of our questions as a reply post on the youtube link above. Mainly interested to know about the 100" + viewing. Hopefully he replies to me on youtube.
post #323 of 680
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Any chance you have the star wars blu to try on it? Or older movie like ghostbusters.Would love to see some vids of these on the projector.Maybe even some video game play.

Funny you ask - that is what I took video of last weekend (I couldn't resist buying it) and was hesitant to show it on here (I am not sure on the rules with copyrighted material). I uploaded to photobucket, but the compression they use is terrible so it does not do it justice. I will take another clip tonight and upload it to my vimeo account.

@ Raine0 - I am pretty confident this thing can do 110" comfortably. My screen is 104" Granted this is in a controlled environment and a SS screen, but I have my brightness turned down. This is a pic from last week and since then I repainted my screen with a silver/pearl and SS mix. It increased the gain and I actually had to turn the brightness down even more. I will post some new shots later.


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I'd like to know more about the media player, particularily with regards to H.264 in MKV.

You got it HenryDudley. That was actually on my list to try out. Are you more interested in .mp4 or .mov?

@Wave_Runner - thanks for the info on the remote. I am sure because of comments the Acer, Viewsonic and NEC pj's will all have this feature. I will also test out the max daylight screen size for you. I have another ~100 screen I will try it on.
post #324 of 680
I'm mostly interested in its ability to play H.264 in an MKV (matroska) container, along with DivX/XVid in AVI containers. That said, any opinions on the player would be cool. Is it just something to print on the box, or is it actually usable.
post #325 of 680
Not sure on the MKV, but I will try all the other formats listed.
post #326 of 680
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post #327 of 680
Hey All

My projector arrived today, so I have done minimal adjustments so far, I will offer up an opinion, but take it with a grain of salt (opinions are like A$$ holes everyone has one).

I'm 53, I need reading glasses, My ears ring, my past projector history (so things can be put in prospective) is Infocus X1, Infocus IN 26 LG HS 201, a QUMI for 3 days (sent back because of focus issues) and now the OPTOMA ML 500.

FAN NOISE (ECO mode): is a hair above the 201 in "Normal mode" my projector is 133 inches from the screen giving me a 106 inch diagonal picture

I'm not ready (at 3 hours of ownership) to say any thing positive/negative but I'm smiling (remember my history)

A few pictures may help, so here you go
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post #328 of 680
Hey guys,

Got my unit yesterday. Picture quality is as advertised! However, I'm having a big issue USB viewing...

My biggest problem is all my widescreen mkv and divx movies that I am playing directly off my USB drive connected to the projector are widescreen movies. However, a little portion of the picture gets cut off at the LEFT and RIGHT edges while I am watching them.

This is annoying enough when there is text or people that are partially cut. No matter what aspect ratio mode I select on the projector, my movies wont fit completely. Its like the projector chooses to ignore part of the sides and I am loosing detail, resolution, and action because of it! I made sure as well that overscan and digital zoom are off in the projector menu....

Anyways I don't think this a limitation of the media player, this looks more like a bug in the software or firmware. I'll have to recheck the video coming from my PS3 through HDMI and others to make sure it's not a widespread issue....also I made sure to play movies that conformed to the compatibility specs that were listed at the end of the projector manual...

I was on the phone with Optoma today, and they said I have to convert my movies through handbrake which is BS. The same dvd quality divx movies play perfectly on my cheap dvd player and they are also within spec as I stated earlier....They said they would call tomorrow after they have tried to reproduce this issue....

This makes me sad because I really love the projector but it is a deal breaker if there isn't some kind of fix for it :-(

Has anybody else had this problem?
post #329 of 680
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Originally Posted by afineman View Post

Hey All

My projector arrived today, so I have done minimal adjustments so far, I will offer up an opinion, but take it with a grain of salt (opinions are like A$$ holes everyone has one).

I'm 53, I need reading glasses, My ears ring, my past projector history (so things can be put in prospective) is Infocus X1, Infocus IN 26 LG HS 201, a QUMI for 3 days (sent back because of focus issues) and now the OPTOMA ML 500.

FAN NOISE (ECO mode): is a hair above the 201 in "Normal mode" my projector is 133 inches from the screen giving me a 106 inch diagonal picture

I'm not ready (at 3 hours of ownership) to say any thing positive/negative but I'm smiling (remember my history)

A few pictures may help, so here you go

afineman, are you saying you're using a 106 inch screen on eco mode?
post #330 of 680
Raine0

Yes, both pictures were taken in ECO mode at 106 inch diag. also the screen is a Da-Lite HP screen (older rated @ 2.8 gain)



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afineman, are you saying you're using a 106 inch screen on eco mode?
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