Kuro owners are lucky folks - Page 3

Sure love my bedroom 9G Kuro.

...nope...these aren't the issue. What I mean is that these displays are just too costly and too good for mere tv watching. I do a great deal of movie watching, but the bulk still is just tv programing (95% in HD).

Am moving it to the "big" home-theater room and use it in lieu of the 12-foot wide scope screen movie watching; for the moment will do most of films viewing with it 'till a new 1080p overhead projector is acquired...and even then...

-thts

Hell,Dude...if that is your Bedroom setup,what,on God's Green Earth,does your
A/V set up look like in your den?

I had the same doubts, found one locally through and ebay auction; had a 7 day return policy. My former (now bedroom) tv is a panny 800u.

It is sad how unfair it is if you compare the Kuro to the Panny, i mean it really is. Even my fiance noticed. I had been debating between the Sony HX929 local dimming set and the VT30 for a new TV and am soooooooooooooooooo happy i went with the Kuro.

Also, if you end up picking up one of the 5020/6020s instead of the elites (as i did) you can install the elite board in the non elite tv to gain access to the elite picture controls.

I'm just pissed I bought a 111FD instead of a 101FD or 500M. I discovered the BL and DSE improvements a moment too late.

i love my kuro....wouldnt give it up for any TV out right now.

lol, I've got the exact same Klipsch F3-II speakers with my 500M. It's a great setup to have

A very happy PRO-111FD owner chiming in here. The PQ is awesome, and I have yet to have it calibrated (unlock the ISF modes). I just use OPTIMUM (with the light sensor) and the result is always great in various ambient light conditions. How many KURO owners are satisfied with the out-of-box (or minimally adjusted) picture settings versus those who think that professional calibration is a must for these PDPs?

LoL! Yup, The Kuro is the Chuck Norris of TV's

I'm glad I got Two Pio's before they were discontinued and I know they will last a good long time now
...since I watch most of my movies at 120" with a PJ setup now

You cant get any better, for a tv...but its still just a tv and sometimes size trumps quality
when the size difference is a Huge 400% + and the PQ only drops slightly...maybe 10%

Skeptical? I was once too...so stop giving me this look
...until you've watched it at 120" at 10' viewing distance and just TRY to get your jaw off the floor!

It all depends on what projector you're using. I thought about getting a PJ, but I didn't because they require too much maintenance (fan cleaning, bulb replacements), and they're a far bigger investment (buying a big screen and extra bulbs). Plus it seems that every year a new model comes along that has way more features than before (24Hz, 3D, lens memory, etc...).

The day a manufacturer releases an LED-powered PJ for under $3K, is the day that I'll actually consider getting one; until that day comes PJs will continue to look like a "work in progress."

A cheap 720p one year old 42" Panny plasma with a Pioneer 51FD BD player.

Mine are the RF7's. Adding a sub this weekend.

3 months ago I bought my RF 3-II's used together for $220, and also one RC-35 for my center ($160).

I was looking for a pair of fronts and since the guy was selling his center too, I figured it would be smart of me to get a matching center. I didn't really wanna pay $160 for the RC-35, but I thought I'd regret it if I didn't. Thus far I'm very satisfied with them, though I admit I was a bit worried about the 'horns' Klipsch uses for their highs, I had only experienced the usual dome-highs.

I also really love their aesthetics! I never leave the speaker covers on because I love seeing their gold colored woofers Have you seen my Wall-E setup? It's kinda silly looking but I have no where else to put the RC-35

My first Pio Plasma , a 5070 cost me $4500 (Canadian) back in 06'
before they were even popular here at AVS and long before Kuro-mania started.
My second Pio, a 5080 Kuro was a floor model clearance at $2000 in the spring 08'

My Epson 1080UB was the same, $2k after a $350 rebate, a free $350 spare lamp and a free ceiling mount,
and free FedEx shipping to my door. Got in the Fall 08'...never a need to update anything to this day.
My drop down remote powered screen was just $250 on ebay, shipping included. That's All I've spent!

I just removed my original bulb last night after over 2.5 years and over 2900 hours,
blew the dust out of the filter and installed my new freebie lamp...that will probably last me another 3 years.

$2250 for 6 years of 120" HD is nothing short of amazing!

We've played host to hundreds of party's, functions and get togethers at our home over the past 3 years...always give family and friends the option to watch movies, concerts, major sporting events or do some HD gaming with my PS3/XBOX360 on the Kuro or lower the powered drop down 120" screen and turn on the Projector...guess what?

100% of them say "ya ya whatever... nice tv, but... Pulllllleze!!! Put on the PJ, we already have a big tv at home."

Here's my dual set up in my unfinished basement mancave, and PQ comparisons ...
(check out my theater build thread for more, link in my sig)





PQ is very close on both, but 470% larger is Trumping the slight PQ advantage of the Kuro.

Pio at 50" (Eagles Farewell Tour on HD DVD)


Epson at 10 Feet Diagonal make you feel like You're AT the concert.


My 50" Kuro


120" screen / Epson PJ


50" Kuro


I leave the blue light in the lower left corner of the Kuro shots when I crop them so it's easier to tell the two apart.

120" PJ


...the PJ shots are even more impressive when you consider they are 9'-0" wide vs the Kuro screen at about 40" wide

The 50" plasma from 12' away doesn't seem to have as much impact when I don't crop the pic's to the same size.


(use the blue light in the lower right corner from my PS3 as a reference point)

the 120" powered drop down screen, shot from the same camera position without cropping the image.


I did a Pio vs PJ comparison with an SD DVD too, from Star Wars, General Grievous,
both up-scaled from 480i on my PS3 to 1080p

Pio at 50"


PJ


I can respect that not everyone has a space to accomodate a "Real" Home theater
...but some of you should at least check out the screen shots here to see how well a sub $3k pj can perform

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...965178&page=57

Even better if you can visit a friends place in person,
I've been asked to help set up dozens of friends and family members now after giving them a demo.

Dont get all defensive, I'm not asking anyone to sell their beloved Kuro's
I've still got both mine..one is even in the Master Bedroom..but If you dont look into a FPJ,
you are seriously missing out!

I don't think anyone disagree's that a projector is better than a TV for movie watching. The main thing that holds people off is space.

Hey PioManiac turn on a lamp and give us a comparison. I kid

The PJ shots look great though. What picture mode is the Pioneer in? ISF? Gotta love those bezel blacks in complete darkness!!

Sometimes ignorance is truly bliss. The depth quality of the Kuro's is what sold me, sold me TWICE infact. My wife was talking Kuro for over a year but I wasn't convinced. All I had to see was the price and I couldn't see the TV past that. lol. But one day I was walking in a Best Buy and they had the usually store feed DVD playing. It was a new Best Buy and they had all the sets in the back against a wall but I had a clear shot view at most of them. Just as I was walking in it was a panning scene where a vase was in the foreground against a window/wall in the background. One TV immediately caught my eye. The depth was amazing. It truly looked as if I was looking through a hole in the wall at a vase. I do not exaggerate when I say the depth alone blew EVERY set in sight out the water and I mean COMPLETELY out the water. I was sold. PRO 151FD and 111FD. So why is ignorance bliss? If I hadn't seen that and then knew what I was missing I would have saved ALOT of cash. lol


And the measures to get the room dark enough if you don't have a windowless room.

Boy you walked right into my trap...LOL!



Light controlled space, strategically placed lamps with nothing in the room that reflects back to the screen is the key
...and if you cant control your room, a High Power screen will solve that easily! Mine is only a 1.3 Gain, but you can watch in a much lighter room with a 2.4-2.8 gain screen.

The choice of screen can also play a huge role on that, although I like the fact that I can watch my plasma with the lights on.

...from a recent posting on the Epson 8250 PJ thread:






link to thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...80137&page=159

PRO151 ISF-DAY calibrated by D-Nice. I couldn't be happier and disappointed at the same time. Happy that I made the jump a few years ago and got the best display possible. Disappointed that the industry has shifted to gimmicks instead of PQ as a primary driver. Hopefully 3D will die out soon, the "apps" will be saturated quickly and we're back to focusing on PQ.

I agree. I don't need or want 3D or streaming.

If you can swing the cash, get a second sub. Not only will you add visual symmetry to the room, but multiple subs tend to even out the bass response in the room (providing more "sweet spots", or at least, multiple reasonably good listening spots). Actually, 3, 4 or more subs would be even better for achieving that, but still, 2 is often superior to 1. Nice room, btw.

It's not disappointing at all: through the past 9 months I've bought two 500M's totaling $2,750. ...It's 100% possible for any motivated individual to locate a 500M for under $1K.

Been having my pro-101fd since October 2009 bought in Toronto. Been a happy pioneer user since 2004, the non-elite one. When i took the plunge for the elite, i was so amazed by the diff in quality after having to watch the 4330hd for a couple years. Had to move back to Indonesia for work, took the tv down with me to Jakarta.

Last week the electrician was servicing the grounding at my place and I was out when he tested the grounding and accidentally plugged in my 101fd's plug to 220 volt (not into the 110 volt converter)! I just realized it now that the tv doesnt work

So does anyone here know what happens to the tv? Is it just the power supply or might it be more? And anyone here from Jakarta knows where can I get it fixed without having the panel shipped to the service centre? so have someone to come and check it out, and order the parts needed. Thanks in advance.

ehm. I think you need to go back and re-read my post. Or carefully re-examine the ebay link I provided.

Hopefully it just fried an internal fuse. I would expect the TV to be protected in that way...but you never know.

Pioneer may have left the home theater game, but their Kuro patents still represent the cutting edge in medical technology:

Thank you. I've already planned a second sub ​​to buy.

Hmmm, the electrician should have an idea of what happened. Hopefully the fuse blew out, and you just need to replace it.