"Official" Onkyo TX-NR809 Thread - Page 55

You two updated your firmware, right? I hope we have a couple of experienced owners who can comment! I won't want to use this receiver if it's going to screw up video.

I have been keeping my eye on Newegg this week, last week they and Amazon had it for 680 or so. I just did not have the money then. If I see it this weekend for anything close I'm all over it. I will also buy a warranty, anyone have expierience with either Amazon or Newegg warranty?

Amazon sells the squaretrade warranty, very highly regarded. If the savings weren't so great online, I'd be buying from a big box store with warranty instead. I rarely buy them but this product's reputation seems to warrant it.

My thoughts exactly! Thanks GregF

The price was <700 on the internet at several authorized dealers including Amazon. I don't see the reason for the squaretrade warranty.
Pioneer Elite is another story, Pioneer will not honor any Elite that is bought online AFAIK.

http://onkyousa.com/locations_intdealer.cfm

videoaddikt I'm basing it on a volume of complaints about onkyo's customer service with problematic receivers. It seems to be an undesirable spot to be in.

The main reason I'm looking at a new reciever is that I am experiencing the DTS BOMB on my ONKYO 605. I bought at Circuit City a few years back. CC is now gone and so is my warranty. So that spurred my intrest in a new reciever, hence looking at the Pioneer VSX1121. The Onkyo caught my eye due to the simmilar price and as long as no issue with DTS. I think I'm good with the Onkyo.
videoaddikt you don't think warranty is worth it? MFG warranty on Onkyo is how long?

I just took delivery this weekend my 3009, which uses the same video processors as your 809. Just yesterday I was experiencing some intermittent stuttering of my picture watching some UEFA champions league football. This made watching down right annoying. I made numerous changes to the picture mode and the only one that seemed to eliminate the stutter was the direct mode which doesn't upconvert the signal to 1080p and keeps the signal to the original 1080i. I also tried the secret menu to bypass the processor and that also worked. But that really ticked me off since one of the reasons for buying this receiver to replace my 805 was the superior video processor of the HQV vida and Qdeo. I really wanted to keep the video processing in the loop.

I thought maybe the receiver was defective but I bought this online and the thought of shipping this 55 lbs. monster made me cringe. After tons of research on the web I was led to believe that perhaps my displays (Sony Z4100) processing maybe the culprit. I thought that I turned off all the processing but as it turns out my Cinemotion (Sony's 3:2 pull down) was on. I turn it off and VIOLA no more stuttering. It looks like the Cinemotion and HQV Vida/Qdeo processors don't play nice with each other. I not sure what type of display you have but try turning off all processing and see if that works for you.

I should add that I have no issues playing 24p sources.

In regards to the DTS bomb my old 805 had it but this was fixed via a DSP update which was all good until the Star Wars discs. I got the bomb skipping to chapter 16 and 18 on A New Hope. I gave it a try on my 3009 and yes it appears that the 3009 also experiences the bomb, I talked to Onkyo about this they say the have taken the issue to Lucasfilms and we will have to wait until it's resolved. So for now take care jumping chapters on the Star Wars discs.

BTW for those of you with a 7.1 setup is your receiver outputting DTS 5.1 to 7.1 using the straight decode function?

Most people don't have problems. I might consider an additional warranty sometime before the 2 year factory warranty is up.

It's a personal choice. If I was getting a great deal on electronics, and it came with a factory warranty (most electronics fails early if at all) I'd be satisfied (and I am).

Extended warranties are not the best investment anyway. But betting something is going to fail is one thing, IMO doubling down on that bet seems a bit extreme.

I agree with purchasing warranties in general, however, I don't consider the volume and nature of issues I've read about to be insignificant, in this case.

If my concern was that great I would consider an alternate purchase. Of course, it's your choice, and I hope it is trouble free, as it is an impressive receiver.

"Only 1080i" (ha) brings a question to mind. When you set your Picture Mode to Direct and your DLP then changed gears to accept and display the carbon copy of the 1080i input source, what do you see when you pull up the menu? Or, what happens to your menu display when you went to Picture Mode and changed that from ISF Day to Direct? The source feed is now 1080i but the onk doesn't display menus in any other than 1080p UNLESS you have chosen "Custom" in Picture Mode so this is hurting my brain.

Reading wl1's advice post mentioned above, he says: "In source setup>picture adjust, use Direct mode if you want to pass the signal straight through unaffected. "

When I look at Source Setup I only see options for intellivolume and audessey. Where is picture adjust?

That is Jims concern for Net input - there isn't one.

If you are using other inputs/sources, it's where I said. Which input source did your Picture Adjust disappear from?

It does say "net". Sorry where do I find this menu elsewhere? Only had the unit for about a day!

How do I access the secret/service menu? Because I think 'DIRECT' still does something with the video signal.

FW is updated, video mode set to 'DIRECT'. Still 'slow motion' stuttering every 3-5 minutes. As I said: It's very subtle. Not everyone might notice it. I do

I have my 809 on the way. I HAD a 709 and am having a hard time remembering how I had my 709AVR set up for 3D. What do you mean by setting the 809 AVR to ISF Day and turning it to Direct? Where is this done at in the menus?


One More Question....

Last year when I had my TX-NR808, for Direct TV to work in 3D, I had to run my HDMI calbe directly to the TV for 3D images to work, and a sperate audio cable to my -808 for audio.

Does anyone here know if this is still the case for 3D to work over Direct TV? Can I run my HDMI through my new 809 recevier for both audio/video and 3D channels will be in 3D or do I still need to run 2 seperate cables?

I am not sure of your question. Are you aware that the first few menu items (Monitor i/o, Speaker...) etc are Global. When you get to Source Setup, that is unique to the Source you selected BEFORE you entered the Menu System. the label should be at the top.

EG, goto DVD source, and then Menu, and then Source Setup. You will then be setting up JUST the DVD source. Picture Adjust, I think, is number 5.

If you start in "NET" as the source, there is no Picture Adjust option.

For info - when you are in the Menu system as described above, you can change Sources to check settings in other Sources (hope this last bit doesn't confuse - it did me and i wrote it).

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Thanks for your input Gregg, much appreciated. My HDMI issues with the 875 seem to have gone away the past 3-4 days but I suspect they will be back. Still leaning towards the 809 but disappointed there is no switched AC plug on the back... I use the one on my 875 to power fans in my entire cabinet so not having one will cause me some issues. Ugh.

Otherwise I'm pretty intrigued by the network functionality and remote control options via iPad... perhaps today will be the day to place my order. We'll see.

I think I understand now! Thank you! This may explain why the receiver seemed to be interfering with my watching of video last night.

Yes, mine didn't get noticeably warm. I did want to mention that there are nice quiet usb-powered external fans out there. A company called thermaltake makes a good one.

A lot of people and reviewers say the OSD for the Onkyo AVR's are great, but the Global / local nature is confusing. It is a subtle change - which I find could have been done differently. I would have split the menu into Global (items1-3,6-9) and Source Options (items 4 & 5) as these are set for EACH Source and so a layered Option (if that makes sense).

If the Onkyo is a good example, then everyone else's user interface mystery be truly awful

Right, yeah I'm aware of the USB fans out there but I have 3 fans mounted to my AV cabinet and I'd prefer to not to have swap them out. I suppose I could just turn them down and leave them on 24/7 but it would be nice to have them switch on with the receiver again.

Otherwise not seeing much downside to the upgrade especially given the price... mind you I'll also have to deal with selling my 875.

Hi Vise, look into something like a Smart Power Strip.

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Originally Posted by Mikes2cents
Oh, just a note for those who may be having trouble passing 3d with this. I just watched Pirates 3d tonight and had the worst 3d picture I could remember seeing with my DLP TV. I thought WTH? So I played with the display and the BD player settings to no avail. Then it dawned on me that I was upscaling with the AVR using ISF Day. Well my TV did not like that at all so I set it to Direct in the AVR and BAM, there was my beloved ghost free 3d DLP picture with awesome sound. So my recomendation is go direct for 3d viewing, and maybe for all viewing. Gotta check into that more but for now the Direct mode in 2d via cable looks really good though it be only 1080i on a 1080p TV."

I have my 809 on the way. I HAD a 709 and am having a hard time remembering how I had my 709AVR set up for 3D. What do you mean by setting the 809 AVR to ISF Day and turning it to Direct? Where is this done at in the menus?


One More Question....

Last year when I had my TX-NR808, for Direct TV to work in 3D, I had to run my HDMI calbe directly to the TV for 3D images to work, and a sperate audio cable to my -808 for audio.

Does anyone here know if this is still the case for 3D to work over Direct TV? Can I run my HDMI through my new 809 recevier for both audio/video and 3D channels will be in 3D or do I still need to run 2 seperate cables?

You of anyone should know that there is no such thing as monitor res global. Onkyo ignored everybody who doesn't have a native 1080p display. Thank the gods they allowed speaker size settings to be one-time and forget global. I am so tired of this one thing that Onk could have done correctly.

I wasn't talking specifically Resolution, I was helping Greg to understand the menu system.